How this Crisis Will Play Out - 2010 and beyond

Originally posted by Division_Theory
WideVision2010 predicted in his original thread that a war would begin by the end of July (between late June and late July). I was wondering if he had any updates on that prediction, as its deadline is almost upon us.

Oh, Peter, is that you?

Could this be related to the upcoming "attempt"? It's the story of what someone overheard in a doctor's office.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

They Want the President Dead?

Originally posted by Marianna
Dear WW:

Could you tell me more about the Gloria Olivae and Peter the roman?
Do you know if there is gonna be an earthquake in DF soon? I have family there.
Thanks a lot.

Earthquakes will subside worldwide till August. There is a possibility of an earthquake that originates in the sate of Guerrero, near Oaxaca that will be felt in Mexico City, but there will be no damages of considerations, besides being scared, around August 21-28.

Wide Vision, Looks like I can not post a PM, until I have completed 20 posts, and that may take some time!
But my questions continue:
1 The toxic rain you talked about -August 15-18- due to a hurricane in Gulf of Mexico- will it affect Carolinas?
2 The house of Saud will ally with Russia only if there is a revolution in Saudi Arabia. This implies an upheaval in Saudi Arabia in the very near future. Do you expect it in 2010?
3 Do you expect US to continue in Afghanistan for several years?

Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by Jordan River
Peter claims demons to be released. anything on that? I like this guy. a little anti semitic but no one is perfect.

Demons will be released. Thank you. I had forgotten to warn about them being released! Thanks for reminding me about it.




As I said before, I am not anti-Semite; just anti-Zionist.



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Originally posted by nlouise
Will the California Quake happen on the San Andreas Fault? Or is it another fault line along the coast?

No. The grat San Andreas fault will rattle like a disturbed snake. Expect to see the southern part to begin the shake. Then, North San Francisco will quake within days. Then the whole snake will accomodate itself. It will come at the worst possible time because a great depression in the richest state of California will have emergewncy crews financially depressed. People will claim it to be God's wrath against California, the U.S. Some will ask for forgiveness, and some others will turn against God.

When will it happen? 2011.

Originally posted by nlouise
Will the California Quake happen on the San Andreas Fault? Or is it another fault line along the coast?

Edited to erase a double post.

Same answer as above. Sorry.

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reply to post by Wide Vision 2010


Thank you for so much detail. Our home is about 5 miles east of San Andreas fault in the high desert. We are just behind (north of)San Gabriel Mountains. Five miles north of Wrightwood to be exact.

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Originally posted by Student X

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010
The liar will be visible when the crash happens. His name comes to 666 using gematria. He comes from a lineage that is arranged by him to come from David and from Jesus, and from Muhammad.

Well, that rules me out! *whew* My name comes to 1080.

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Of course not! Mere humans would not be kings of the world. To be king of the world, you would have to be obscenely rich, and have acquired your riches in a dirty way such as coming from profitting with arms, drugs, misery, hunger, illnesses, wars and human suffering. I only know of a family that fits the bill perfectly, and that is the Royal Family of England.

The Royal family of England, by 2012, will claim to descend from Jesus Christ. Remember The DaVinci Code? Well, that's an outright lie, but people have been readied to accept a lie. They will claim to have more of a right than the Vatican to represent the real church. Besides, they will lay claim to be descendants of every noteworthy individual in history. King Davd, Jesus, Muhammad, amongst others.

They are the proponents of the United Nations, own the food systems of the world, own the financial system through the Rothschilds, and are the Zionist family of highest ranking. They created the sytate of Israel and have built the buildings of the Supreme Court of Israel and many other masonic buildings.

Originally posted by Student X

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010

I fully respect and welcome all religions, although I don't profess any.

Ah, but could you welcome and respect the one world religion you are talking about?

Ah, the world religion which TPTB are pushing with the emergence of Mitreya is out of the question. That is pure demonic, and warning against it is the main reason for my posting.

Baha'i is located in Israel under the auspices of, again, the Rothschilds, as mere minions of the Crown of England. The False Messiah has to come from them.

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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
So you said that some kind of war would start sometime between late June and late July....
In only a few days I have a feeling the first of many of your predictions will be proven wrong/false.
You have 3 days till "late July" is gone.........

The US needs to go to war this year, between June and January 2011, and China needs to get paid. That will square China, Russia and the US. Palestinians will get support to the Palestinian Land conflict with Israel.

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
So you said that some kind of war would start sometime between late June and late July....
In only a few days I have a feeling the first of many of your predictions will be proven wrong/false.
You have 3 days till "late July" is gone.........

The US needs to go to war this year, between June and January 2011, and China needs to get paid. That will square China, Russia and the US. Palestinians will get support to the Palestinian Land conflict with Israel.

Two comet pieces of considerable proportions will hit the Earth. One will hit NY and the power structures of the elite will be in shambles


the Above snip is from one of your earlier posts

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are these possible power structures;
NYSE, Federal Reserve in NYC, or will it be Goldman Sachs ??
any of these would be best hit at 10AM to get the most bang for the buck as-it-were


as for the other comet piece hitting in NY, might that be in the Hudson Valley? so i don't go boating up there anytime soon.

or will the 2nd piece fall into the ocean creating a tsunmai wave??


~or~

do you mean that one piece of a split comet will hit DC
and the other will hit NYC
(as a modern echo destruction of the Sodom & Gomorrah tale)


need some clarity, thank you

My intuition, along with all the input from so many incredible and incredulous predictions, is that Obama is the False Prophet. Nothing he has spoken of or promised has come to fruition. His words are of hope but his actions are of deception. Say for instance his use of "transparency" as an example. He is not Muslim, but is he? He is not Christian, but is he? He is not American, or is he? He is not Black, or is he? I just cannot imagine anyone fitting to such a title and task than this Liar!

My questions to the OP:

Is the False Prophet the "liar" you speak of?

Do you believe Prince William, born on the Summer Solstice, due to turn 30-yrs in 2012, is the Anti-Christ? Do you believe he is a test-tube baby of Diana and the Shroud of Turin? (consecrated as Christ by the Pope this year)

Do you believe in the workings of London's 2012 Summer Olympics, as discovered and revealed by Rik Clay, as the symbolic temple to announce the new King on Earth? I am very interested in the slaying of the two Prophets/Witnesses, and how they could lay there in view of the World for three days. (I realize you task 3 months in advance and this may not be answerable, but I find Rik Clay's information quite informative, as well I find "The Arrivals" completely incredible)

Do you believe that America is the Whore of Babylon?

Can we ask, what are your plans? Do you live in America, and what part? What of your circumstances, are you to be here for a short time and then leave to move to a safer place? Will you leave ATS is what I mean to ask? Have you specific locations for people to consider, for safety reasons?

I take the words of the Hopi Elders very seriously. They have often spoken of their own Prophesies and how they are in line with the Maya and Christian-based Prophesies. Specifically the Hopi Elders have sent the message out that the place to survive would be Hopiland (this is the Four-corners, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah). They speak of a migration of their 'brothers' from the South.

Can you speak of this migration? The Webbot speaks of "Diaspora", can you elaborate anything on that? My thoughts on this part has to do with why Arizona is suddenly a hotbed of conflict with the Border.

OK, well at any rate your post is in line with everything I see and feel, I am less a follower and more a believer, everything is possible for every one at this point. So thanks for such an intriguing post!

Originally posted by raze78
Muslim here. What do you know about the Mahdi? The dajjal will be one-eyed...do you agree? Jesus will descend in Damascus...do you agree? All the amazing things the anti-christ will reveal will be nothing but illusion and hidden technologies... is this not so?

Tell me what you know of the Mahdi

Damascus will be bombed out by the Israelis, come the war.

Isn't Imam Mahdi and the anti-Christ of the Bible one and the same? it seems to me they will perform the same actions and will create the sane system of rule.

Hopefully I will have some time to explain myself further this evening.

Greetings.



I respect all religions, since it's the Almighty who will find us at fault. Not me.

reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

The US needs to go to war this year, between June and January 2011, and China needs to get paid. That will square China, Russia and the US. Palestinians will get support to the Palestinian Land conflict with Israel.

Well it sure didn't take you very long to back-peddle on the dates you originally gave. LOL

So now you are saying between June and January 2011, instead of between late June and late July.

Funny. Enjoy misleading anybody unfortunate enough to believe you...

Originally posted by oniongrass

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010

Originally posted by shadowland8

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010
Eastern Australia would be the second choice, but first if the language barrier is taken in consideration, ...

What do you mean by this? We speak English in Australia. So not sure what this means, would be great if you could clarify.

I guess it was copy pasted from a response about where to go. As I remember the choice was Australia and another country. Greetings.

I remember this one, it was asked by an English speaker. So Australia came ahead for an English speaker, but I think Ecuador for a Spanish speaker.

Exactly so, my friend.

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010

Very good. Free will or predetermination?

I think both exist. On an individual level, you can change things for you, but for humanity, I think it's predestined.

Nope. There is NO pre-destination. That is what I wrote - 'predestination', as prophecies are 'believed' to be determined upon, a path and fate unchanged no matter what one does, not 'predetermination' as you twisted it or missed it.

Predetermination is when the wise predict an eventual outcome in future for a society based on rational studies, and the intelligent, for good or for bad, use control means to prove that prediction comes true in the future.

Even the US founding fathers are guilty of predetermination, with the use of a Constitution to bound each man to a civilised set of rules and laws so that with each freedom comes a responsibility so that all may live in peace and prosperity.

And yet within that constitution, they understood and had not denied man and society of free will to determine a better future, by means of the freedom to vote and even to rebel when theives take over the rulership of the land.

So too had such basic principle been given to humanity by our Creator - free will - to decide as a civilised society its own outcome.

While we may change with free will upon the individual level, it is each and everyone of us that makes up our society and determines its outcome, for good or bad, by our actions or inactions.



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Predestination or free will. That is the question.

We can discuss it for all of our lives and never arrive at any conclusion. I think both exist. There is not an exclussion of one over the other, and I respect your point of view.

I wish people could change what is coming to them, and that´s one of the reasons for the being of this thread.

I am putting myself on the line in every post I make, and I can be called a fraud at anytime.

So far, and up to today, since May 3rd, of this year, things have happened as I have said they would.

Is that free will or predeterminism? I don´t know. Let´s leave it at that.

Originally posted by oniongrass

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010
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Nostradamus said:

Century 10, Quatrain 72
L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois,
Du ciel viendra un gran Roy d'effrayeur.
Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois.
Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur.

The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror.
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

Bush was born in New Haven, Ct. and he started the War on Terror, which to this day continues.

Just wondering, why do you mention New Haven here? I think you've mentioned it before too. I don't see a reference to it in the Nostradamus verse.

From the sky will come...


New Haven, Ct.

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

 

The US needs to go to war this year, between June and January 2011, and China needs to get paid. That will square China, Russia and the US. Palestinians will get support to the Palestinian Land conflict with Israel.

Well it sure didn't take you very long to back-peddle on the dates you originally gave. LOL

So now you are saying between June and January 2011, instead of between late June and late July.

Yeah. He doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that particular prediction, even when multiple people ask about it. He originally said a war or an attack that starts a war would occur between late June and late July, and now that the deadline nears, he doesn't want to have anything to do with that prediction, as if he is pretending he never posted it at all.

You'd think he would be pleased we are paying such close attention.