How this Crisis Will Play Out - 2010 and beyond

Originally posted by 11shaman11
Could you elaborate more on the future of Australia (that's where I'm from)?. Cheers!

I too am interested in the future of Australia, since I live here as well. I'm glad to hear thus far the Eastern part of Australia will be relatively safe, so that's good news for me.

But further elaboration would be great.

any gates gonna open up? i need a serious response to this

a lot of prophecies here........
whilst i applaud the effort you have put into your thread, i think that the number of your predictions is going to put people off, for when one of your predictions fail, and if it is your first prediction too, then your thread will lose all sense of credibility.

when you speak of the liar, is this the mabus that nostradamus predicts?

I do believe that the world economy will slip into the dreaded double dip recession that has been predicted, as soon as the governments of the world end their stimulus packages and adopt austerity measures.

Wide Vision, I have followed you from the previous Forum, and more I look at ATS forums, more I like the site!
I wrote to you - in previous forum about sending some healing energy my way! Do you remember that post?
In terms of specific questions, I have the following:
1 You said somewhere that the Earth Quake in California will be next year. But there are predictions from others that it might occur as early as coming week end! Do you agree?
2 What do you see for China's Three River Gorge Dam?
3 It seems that Hurricanes are controlled by HAARP. In view of that do you still see 3 hurricanes around the Gulf of Mexico Spill. Do you expect them in August or later in the year?

Thank You for a most interesting and thought provoking thread.

Interesting. I copied your posts into Word, so I have it handy, and I can go over it in more depth.

Living in north Saskatchewan right now, but am moving to northwest Alberta next year, it just feels right, like a pull towards there. No where near a city. Acreage away from cities.

Hubby and I were pulled that way into Sask, and it turned out great for his work, and the same work is strong in north Alberta, and now he has a ton of experience.

My intuition is generally really good, and according to what I found in your posts, as far as Canada goes, it's one of the better places to be, just have to watch mostly for forest fires. We'll clear trees well away from the house and shops, and dig a couple of large dugouts (ponds).

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010

I said there will be a war between Israel and at least 3 Muslim countries,

In this war, it will seem as if Israel would be wiped out from the Middle East.

I do not think that this will happen as Israel has nukes and missiles or the most advanced drone technology in the world to deliver them.

[edit on 27-7-2010 by nagabonar]

reply to post by Wide Vision 2010


Read your own bible. The Gog-Magog war is not Armageddon and it tells you exactly who will be in that war. Israel don't lose, they pound the Arabs and Russia after they make it to the areas close to Israel. Russia will lose 2/3rds of her Army to Israeli nukes and Russia's nukes will not be able to get through Israelis Ballistic missile defense systems.

The Liar will come to save Russia and the Arabs from final destruction and to stop the nukes from detonating everywhere. In the peace treaty he will get the rest of the nukes under his command and force the world into submission.

Your right about some things but when the bible tells you who don't ignore it and make up your own.

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There is already in the original thread. Australia will part in the middle, but it will nor sink.

Originally posted by orangutang
reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

 

well, thats quite a read and much of it in line with my own ideas and studies. none of it is impossible. i am expecting only a few % of people will live thru the tribulations.

i have lived on the east coast of oz for 23 years, because its good rainfall and semi tropical, so a plus for survival. not that anything is guaranteed. its not 800m but the mountain at my backdoor is close to that.

i'd like to know your feelings on the verse in the bible which states that "2 shall be working in the field, 1 shall be taken and the other left." where is one taken to? and what happens to the one that is left? is such decisions decided upon from the aura?

also outside the tomb of christ when he arises, who are the men in shining raiment?

thanks in anticipation of your answers.

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I agree. Very few will live through the Tribulations.

Australia is surrounded by water, and land isn´t high enough to stand a higher tide without any damage. Australia wouldn´t be my first choice. Nor it would be South East Asia, for that matter.

As for "one shall be taken, the other left"
We have two passages of scripture which contain similar language. They have been interchangeably quoted as evidence FOR the pre-trib Rapture AND as evidence AGAINST the pre-trib Rapture.
Matthew 24:37-42 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

and then we have: Luke 17:31-37 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. 32 Remember Lot's wife. 33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. 34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

The first was about the Rapture, and the second, and the second one to a mass organized prosecution.

In regards to the man in shining raiment outside the tomb of Jesus, that was an angel.



[edit on 27-7-2010 by Wide Vision 2010]

WideVision2010 predicted in his original thread that a war would begin by the end of July (between late June and late July). I was wondering if he had any updates on that prediction, as its deadline is almost upon us.

Wow that was one heck of a read gave me the shivers, hope I'll be able to sleep tonight.

Originally posted by DISRAELI

Originally posted by nlouise

Will there be a time that no one can die? I heard another person mention this about 6 months ago, that there would be a period of time that no one would be able to die, but will want to. I know there is something similar to this in the scriptures.

Since the OP didn't comment on this point, let me stick a word in again.

This refers to the "locusts" of Revelation ch9 v9- "men will long to die, and death will fly from them".

My opinion about this is that the point to focus on and take most literally is the wanting to die. This is a description of intense despair, which would make sense in terms of what would be happening to the world in chs 8-9.

I agree. Thank you.

Not only locusts, but there will be famine, thirst, hunger, pestilence...

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Prediction: A father tells his wayward child:
"Child, if you don't mend your ways, one day you will go to jail."

Prophecy: The same father who after warning his child about the prediction, continues to recieves summons from teachers and other parents on the child's bullying ways, saw the light and realized finally that his child had grown beyond his control.

One night at dinner, he tells his son sadly:

"Child, when you reach 16 years of age, you will live in a juvenile home, mixing with other naughty kids. By the time you are 20, you will have learnt criminal ways, and for your 21st birthday, you will celebrate it in a prison along with your rough companions, learning even more new deplorable ways to hurt others, and by 25 years of age, you will spend the rest of your live in a maximum security."

But what of 'reality'? What if the child, shakened by that prophecy, decides to mend his ways? Will he still end up in jail? No, because life is not predestined for any being, not for animals or humans.

We all have free will, with the needed intelligence to rationalize our actions and change for the better. Many had done that and testify that such statement is true, and even proven throughout history of masses changing the course of eventualities and timelines.

Thus, it will be the same for us all, for our future, despite numerous true or false beliefs, of messiah or anti messiah, book of revelations or delayed book of revelations.

The more bigger the change needed, the more we humans must unite and think as one, sharing a common ground despite our differences, to achieve our goals not only for ourselves, but for our families, relatives, friends and future generations to come.

Change begins with you and me. It is not doom and gloom, not yet anyway...There is hope. And it lays within yours and each and everyone's heart. We all DO know what is wrong or right, unlike our sheeple serf ancestors easily swayed and influence, and make that choice to stand on.

Wake up, and good luck! Cheers. :-)

[edit on 27-7-2010 by SeekerofTruth101]

Very good. Free will or predetermination?

I think both exist. On an individual level, you can change things for you, but for humanity, I think it's predestined.

Originally posted by teapot
Interesting Thread.

What of the House of Saude? What is their true origin and what role, if any do they play in the end times?

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True origins of the House of Saud come from Wahhab. The Saudi nation will side with Russia and other attacking nations against Jerusalem.

Originally posted by thaknobodi
Sounds like the old saying "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em."

so of course no one wants to man up and live free of a great liar, they read too much and know the greatest evil of cunning, so they conspire to set the stage for whomever this anomalous beast may be

Would you?

I am not saying to join the liar; quite the opposite! I don't know where you get that idea. Please allow me to see more clearly.

Originally posted by Jordan River
any gates gonna open up? i need a serious response to this

Of course. You already know that.

Pass through, pass through the gates!
Prepare the way for the people.
Build up, build up the highway!
Remove the stones.
Raise a banner for the nations. [Isaiah 62:10]

Originally posted by hans kammler
a lot of prophecies here........
whilst i applaud the effort you have put into your thread, i think that the number of your predictions is going to put people off, for when one of your predictions fail, and if it is your first prediction too, then your thread will lose all sense of credibility.

when you speak of the liar, is this the mabus that nostradamus predicts?

I do believe that the world economy will slip into the dreaded double dip recession that has been predicted, as soon as the governments of the world end their stimulus packages and adopt austerity measures.

I have had some of the predictions come real.

It's too bad people cannot see the time stamps of the predictions being made. They are at a test phase right now. I understand. Once that phase subsides, then I wil start predicting current events again.

I was asked in May about the BP oil mess. I said the floor was cracked and that there will be a greater leakage in three months after the prediction was made. BP barely acknowledged the cracks in the floor, a few days ago.

I was asked about North Korea starting the war back in May, and I said there wouldn't be a major war with North Korea. It's more like rumors of wars...

There are some predictions that have come to pass, already.

The liar will create great lies to enslave people; to rob them of their power, and their livelihood. The Bible also speaks about this personage.

The economy tumbling and war will go hand in hand.

[edit on 27-7-2010 by Wide Vision 2010]

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010

Originally posted by DISRAELI

Originally posted by nlouise

Will there be a time that no one can die? I heard another person mention this about 6 months ago, that there would be a period of time that no one would be able to die, but will want to. I know there is something similar to this in the scriptures.

Since the OP didn't comment on this point, let me stick a word in again.

This refers to the "locusts" of Revelation ch9 v9- "men will long to die, and death will fly from them".

My opinion about this is that the point to focus on and take most literally is the wanting to die. This is a description of intense despair, which would make sense in terms of what would be happening to the world in chs 8-9.

I agree. Thank you.

Not only locusts, but there will be famine, thirst, hunger, pestilence...

Thanks to both of you.

What I am wondering is if when 'death flees from them', does that mean that in their (wicked people) agony if they wanted to kill (suicide) themselves that they won't be able to?

Dear WW:

Could you tell me more about the Gloria Olivae and Peter the roman?
Do you know if there is gonna be an earthquake in DF soon? I have family there.
Thanks a lot.

Originally posted by seekersc
Wide Vision, I have followed you from the previous Forum, and more I look at ATS forums, more I like the site!
I wrote to you - in previous forum about sending some healing energy my way! Do you remember that post?
In terms of specific questions, I have the following:
1 You said somewhere that the Earth Quake in California will be next year. But there are predictions from others that it might occur as early as coming week end! Do you agree?
2 What do you see for China's Three River Gorge Dam?
3 It seems that Hurricanes are controlled by HAARP. In view of that do you still see 3 hurricanes around the Gulf of Mexico Spill. Do you expect them in August or later in the year?

Thank You for a most interesting and thought provoking thread.

Yes, Seeker99, I remember you, my friend.
Please send me a private message about the healing. I would love to be of help.
1. California's great quake will happen until 2011. No, it will not fall to the sea, but it will certainly be devastated. In some areas, the tectonic plates will move up to 15 inches. These will occur near san Francisco, Central California up to 13, and 9 inches in Southern California.
2. The Three River Gorge Dam in China will continue to hold for some more time.
3. There will be one in August 15-18, 2010, which will take oil and Corexit inland, creating a health hazard of unimaginable proportions. In the other site, I have warned people to flee the area around the Gulf of Mexico before that date, while the window of opportunity is still open. The change in barometric pressure will create a bigger leakage, which will be taken inland to a large area.