How this Crisis Will Play Out - 2010 and beyond

reply to post by oniongrass


No. I do understand the difference. What I showed was that your claim is in general correct. If you believe that you are wrong, then you are welcome to say that you are wrong.

I also showed that Obama's approval ratings are consistent with modern presidents. Basically, I am disputing the such claims as Obama being generally despised. it's a generality which is generally incorrect. A few people in this thread may have that feeling, but that feeling is atypical.

reply to post by oniongrass


I assume that was actually meant for me. I appreciate it and will look for the link.

Thank you.

an alright read.. have to say tho that it does seem to change as he posts and re-posts the same thing over and over.. while I'll give him credit for his predictions I don't think the end is coming any time soon.. nor do I think it will be in our life time.. people have been prediction the end of the world since he could first talk.. there are hundreds of doom end time predictions that come and go and we are still here..

unless a whole cluster fook and stuff happens I don't think there will be much of a food shortage in first world country's any time soon.. people would eat any thing if they have too.. that includes genetically altered food.. and I also don't think that the u.s will fall any time soon either.. I think she still has at least another 50-100 years left..

making easy predictions like the us will get tired of lie spewing bastards is easy that was easy to say when bush took power lol.. but I for the most part enjoyed typing almost every prediction that has ever been famous putting a small tweak so you can call it your own.. and bringing it back here on ats to be made fun of when the time comes and goes..

such is the fate of almost all threads that are like this.. hell make a 1000 more predictions and I bet one will come true.. odds are in your favor lol..

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010
The Lord tells me what to say, and how to say it.
I am only allowed to speak 3 months ahead, about the subject, and one month has already passed. If you notice, I only speak of 3 months in advance, and I say things will change, and I stop at that....but I have had numerous kinds of information via dreams, or just asking Jesus and closing my eyes, or just looking up and to the left a little, into what I call my special place, and wham! the information I sought is there.

Please explain this claim. I have asked repeatedly, you have not explained it. You have stated that Jesus Christ revealed these "predictions" to you. Yet, of late, you have dodged this claim.

"“I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, ‘I had a dream! I had a dream!’ How long will this continue in the hearts of these lying prophets, who prophesy the delusions of their own minds? They think the dreams they tell one another will make my people forget my name, just as their ancestors forgot my name through Baal worship. Jeremiah 23: 25-27 (NIV)

reply to post by thegoodearth


I am telling noone to forget His name. Quite on the contrary, I think there are too many people who have forgotten about Him and do not follow His path seriously.

How can I prove what I claim? There is no way to prove anything that happens to you internally, in your heart of hearts. I cannot prove I had such dreams, and you can't prove you have a headache.

reply to post by Reaper2137


Sure, it has ben said so many times by people touched by the Lord, our God. However, since it has been said before, and people do not care to listen, they deny any value to anyone who cms and says what His message is.

But the Almighty touches te lives of people when they least expect it, and suddenly His truth dawns on them, and they see clearly what is expected of them, even if deniers still abound.

Has there been any confirmation that Obama proposed a 7 year deal where Israel would rent land from the Palestinians? Yesterday we saw it but I think it came from a single unconfirmed story.

Originally posted by oniongrass
Has there been any confirmation that Obama proposed a 7 year deal where Israel would rent land from the Palestinians? Yesterday we saw it but I think it came from a single unconfirmed story.

This is the same proposal Obama has been offering Israel since October 29th, 2010, as reported from Israel However, I just found it yesterday, and I was shocked, but at the same time, expected it. I expect the covenant to be signed by June 19th, 2011. So, that means any time between now and then, the deal will be signed, and the 1260 days of the first part of tribulation will commence.

An Egyptian source told the newspaper that the negotiations are "more quiet than secret, and are meant to try to save the peace process."

Link here

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010
reply to post by thegoodearth

 

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010
The Lord tells me what to say, and how to say it.
I am only allowed to speak 3 months ahead, about the subject, and one month has already passed. If you notice, I only speak of 3 months in advance, and I say things will change, and I stop at that....but I have had numerous kinds of information via dreams, or just asking Jesus and closing my eyes, or just looking up and to the left a little, into what I call my special place, and wham! the information I sought is there.

.............
I am telling noone to forget His name. Quite on the contrary, I think there are too many people who have forgotten about Him and do not follow His path seriously.

How can I prove what I claim? There is no way to prove anything that happens to you internally, in your heart of hearts. I cannot prove I had such dreams, and you can't prove you have a headache.

WV,

Please...

You asserted that Jesus Christ himself told you of future events, none of which came to pass over the summer of 2010.
There is no other way to interpret the clarity of what you yourself stated.
Explain this please.
Thank you and God Bless.

reply to post by thegoodearth


I seem to have bad experiences with people not understanding the relationship between the Lord and I. I guess people would need to experience it, themselves. Those who have not experienced such a relationship cannot understand it, mock it, and nothing I say will be able to change their view. Same happened to Noah, although I am not saying I am a modern Noah. There are many of us who are being given messages by the Lord, although we know most will fall by the way side to the ranks of those who follow the liar.

I wish people saw my message as a remainder, a warning that the time we live in is when we should prepare mentally, materially and especially spiritually for the trials we will go through during tribulation. Most, instead, want to get at me, personally, thinking that they are exposing the liar. I consider salvation as personal, and as such, people should start doing what Jesus Christ came to tell us, and nothing more.

God has spoken to many people throughout the Bible, and continues to do the same up to this day, and will continue to do so. Who can say that that is impossible? Only a person who doesn't believe God is Almighty, and present everywhere, and All-knowing. I couldn't say that.

yes but there is a thin line between god talking to you and you just being crazy lol...I think alot of your arguments are grabbing at straws.. which would make you one of the false Prophet that will start coming way before the end and even during it.. which are you? I don't think your wrong.. just grasping in the wrong time.. the end is yet to come..

reply to post by Reaper2137


Sure, I understand your point. Noah was seen as completely lost. He told everyone to build an ark far away from the sea.

:shrugs: The best you cando, is doubt my words, and ask the Lord to come into you and talk to you.

He will talk to thse he wants to, and trust Hm,who is the Lord, your God. I am not Him, and I am working in my salvation just like everybody else.

reply to post by Wide Vision 2010


Oh, don't get me wrong...
I do believe that the Lord and His Blessed Mother do appear to certain blessed souls and impart messages.

However, not a single one of the messages that you asserted He gave you that would happen did indeed come to pass in the time when you yourself said it would indeed occur according to what you claim the Lord said.

Also, I noted that you have ceased to claim that you are receiving messages from Jesus three months ahead of time of its impending time of unfolding.

Perhaps your messages were not of divine origin, my friend... it certainly isn't out of the realm of possibility, and a truly humble person would have to consider the possibility of such.

The best defense is a good offense, and a false prophet would certainly fall back on the persecution road to defend his position.

If you truly are "hearing" messages, I would say some prayers of deliverance, my friend. Just some words of advice. In looking over your entire thread, the responses to those who have been acrimonious to your "calling" and those opposing you... deliverance prayers would be the best way to go.

God Bless you~

you quote the one guy out of hundreds and hundreds over the years that were wrong.. and you know what I bet every one of them said the same thing you do.. I do talk to god.. and I trust my gut when the end come's it comes..but I don't see it any time soon.. but good luck to you.

I've been going over the page so graciously provided to me by oniongrass. I'm not seeing a lot in there that seems to be a prediction with some meat to it. The obvious failures are jumping out pretty easily.

FOr example, this jumps right out.

War is very likely or a disguised attack to incite a war is very likely around End of June to end of July, 2010.

Items such as this are wrong, but there are dates into the future so we can hold off on a decision there. It's indeterminate at this time.

Russia, Israel, Iran, Pakistan and the US will be the great actors of war, freedom, financial chaos, fallen power and a new order. This crisis will officially start in 2008, and then quake in various pre-shocks as it activates from 2009-2011. Political and economic structures may hold on tenuously through 2012-2013, but the full monty arrives by 2014-2015.

There there are the "duh" predictions such as this one.

Problems will arise about the Health Care Act. This is not the end of it. That will come back to haunt Obama, by September 2010.

So far no evidence that this one is coming true. Maybe if you think Bernie Sanders is going to become a leader. He hasn't combed his hair or worn a tie in decades. Maybe if he mowed his lawn his Washington apartment wouldn't look like an abandoned property.

You are seeing the end of politicians who wear ties. You will see ties no more after 2010, in politicians on the trail or in Washington.

Another failure here. No saber rattling going on so this is a no go.

The US needs to go to war this year, between June 2010 and January 2011 ...

Big failure here. Nothing happening except typical weather.

You will see only increasing weather anomalies, tremors, floods, and fires.

Weird, but this was listed under weather.

Two large stones will hit the Earth. Two. Three will be stopped before it hits NY., but not the last one. That will finish with the UN, Wall Street, and most of Global power I refer about. Washington will be evacuated before that. Washington will never be the same.

I wonder what this means. No idea of big given here. Did you know several thousand fireballs hit the Earth each day? I wonder if those count?

Failure here in regards to Israel.

Summer 2010. A bigger war will ensue.

Still waiting on this one.

Before 2010 is over, there will be a big problem with the pope.

Will get back on more shortly.

Originally posted by stereologist
... There there are the "duh" predictions such as this one.

Problems will arise about the Health Care Act. This is not the end of it. That will come back to haunt Obama, by September 2010.

Obviously correct? Look what happened to the Dems, and the big election loss was becoming apparent around September.
...

Another failure here. No saber rattling going on so this is a no go.

The US needs to go to war this year, between June 2010 and January 2011 ...

No saber rattling? You think our aircraft carriers are just out for a pleasure cruise in the vicinity of Iran?

Big failure here. Nothing happening except typical weather.

You will see only increasing weather anomalies, tremors, floods, and fires.

Don't tell that to the millions of people who used to have land in Pakinstan, that's now a part of the Indus River. Just one example.



I haven't read all of your comments. But you're not paying very close attention to a lot of things that are going on.

reply to post by stereologist


I guess its my turn now? ROFL

If you don't see it, or don't have that ability, then oh well, not my problem. Obviously you're interested enough in the topic to keep hanging in there. I didn't think that the people that hung out on these type of forum boards were all that uninformed. Guess you settled that opinion for me.

Look around you. Do you honestly believe everything you see in the media? Do you believe everything the government feeds you, even when they themselves admit they lie to the public? Do you honestly believe all the media fearmongering on terrorism is true? How many times have you been the victim of a real terrorist? How about anyone you know? How about anyone you know that knows someone else who was? YET, there is a terrosit lurking 'behind every bush'. No pun intended.

EDIT: This post was in reference to a question addressed to me by S on page 52 of post. I just forgot to add the quote.

EDIT: They sure didn't waste any time puttting in those naked body scanners and doing intrusive body searches did they? It only took 2 weeks, a few days after election time? Government doesn't act that fast on the behalf of anyone but themselves. They just had to create a 'reason'.

reply to post by Wide Vision 2010


Every time I read Daniel 11:21-24, I think of Obama

Daniel 11:21-24 (King James Version)

21And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

22And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.

23And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

24He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.


I'm not saying it is him for certain, this could even pertain to another nation entirely, but everytime I read that I think of Obama.
Vs. 21 obtaining the kingdom by flatteries, not being honored by those who aren't buying it.
Vs. 22 sounds like what is about to happen to all of us.
Vs. 23 mentions a 'league made with him, and him working deceitfully, becoming strong with a small people.
Vs. 24 sounds like the last few trips he and his wife took with all the tens of millions spent on 'security' personnel, and unessessary entourage.