How this Crisis Will Play Out - 2010 and beyond

reply to post by DutchBigBoy


Daniel 9:27
Daniel 9:27 (King James Version)

27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Daniel says the covenant will be signed WITH MANY for seven years. Of course the covenant being signed is different than being proposed, but the similitude and the signs of the times tell us we are close to the big events.

However, TPTB are playing closely with Prophecy in order to sidetrack those who are still awake. Let´s entertain the idea without stating that Obama is the lair, yet. To me, he is looking like the main character, despite my studies that point me to the British royalty.

I will continue to keep my eyes open, and I would appreciate any information on either way.

reply to post by nlouise


TPTB want the populace to forget and abandon the Laws that God left for us, his people. They want people to be so scared, that they follow the rules of the liar, so all Laws are broken, and people are not saved.

This is truly a war for our souls. People may see it as a financial problem, bt the true context for the deliberate financial ruin we currently experience, is to line people with the liar.

The 7 year lease proposal is pretty startling.

And pressure is increasing all over. The lions of Wall Street, the big investment banks (but now officially bank holding companies) are seeing revenues decline because of Dodd-Frank; they are being turned more into brokerage firms, a lower form of financial life than the dealers they used to be, and for sure they do not like it.

I can sense the pressure building on them that could force them into making deals with governments. I used to think they were above governments but now maybe not, and that is a big change. The pecking order used to be something like Hedge Funds > Investment Banks > Governments. Now hedge funds have a hard time making money, investment banks are forced to rely on fee revenue, and government is able to exert pressure, so it seems more reversed: Government > Investment Banks (Bank Holding Companies) > Hedge Funds. The only successful form of hedge fund seems (we cannot be sure; these organizations do not report their profits publicly) to be the real-time traders who are collocated with financial exchanges, who live off their ability to read market signals and make trades automatically in microseconds. This does not seem like a sustainable basis for private financial enterprise to me.

Obama, much despised at home (USA that is) is doing some very powerful things. It's mysterious how this could happen, and I suppose it does burnish his credentials for being a major player in the end-times.

Originally posted by oniongrass
The 7 year lease proposal is pretty startling.

And pressure is increasing all over. The lions of Wall Street, the big investment banks (but now officially bank holding companies) are seeing revenues decline because of Dodd-Frank; they are being turned more into brokerage firms, a lower form of financial life than the dealers they used to be, and for sure they do not like it.

I can sense the pressure building on them that could force them into making deals with governments. I used to think they were above governments but now maybe not, and that is a big change. The pecking order used to be something like Hedge Funds > Investment Banks > Governments. Now hedge funds have a hard time making money, investment banks are forced to rely on fee revenue, and government is able to exert pressure, so it seems more reversed: Government > Investment Banks (Bank Holding Companies) > Hedge Funds. The only successful form of hedge fund seems (we cannot be sure; these organizations do not report their profits publicly) to be the real-time traders who are collocated with financial exchanges, who live off their ability to read market signals and make trades automatically in microseconds. This does not seem like a sustainable basis for private financial enterprise to me.

Obama, much despised at home (USA that is) is doing some very powerful things. It's mysterious how this could happen, and I suppose it does burnish his credentials for being a major player in the end-times.

edit on 18-11-2010 by oniongrass because: (no reason given)

Nice to see you back, Oniongrass.

Hedge funds and bans were the tools to get to governments. They now all belong to TPTB, and they are now pushing for the esclavization of humanity through the deliberate empoverishment of all countries, so that they implement AGENDA 21 locally, everywhere. They want control of everything and everywhere in the world.

I agree. While he is not liked in the US, he continues to lead the US into the hole. However, he seems to hold the keys to use China and then discard it whenever he pleases. The trip he made to India to offer more industry to move now into India, was a slap in the face to China. It´s all so devilish.

reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

There is no need to post that link. It´s not worth it. Stereologist doesn´t care for answers.

Why post the falsehood? I am looking for answers and you seem determined not to provide any answers. I continue to ask and you continue to refuse to show that you have ever made a successful prediction. Your best effort has been to claim that you have made a successful prediction, yet everything I've seen so far is 100% wrong.

Why are you unable to show me a success?

reply to post by nlouise

This is all part of the dehuminization conditioning, as in the days of Hitler. I cannot believe that so many Americans really believe those recent staged airplane bombs in the media, were for real, and that these TSA methods are for their own good.

Got any reason to suspect that the bombs were fake? Got any reason to suspect that there is any other purpose to these enhanced screening methods?

I doubt you have anything other than paranoia to back up your statements. If there were a reason I think you'd have stated it up front.

reply to post by oniongrass

Obama, much despised at home (USA that is) is doing some very powerful things.

That's not true. Recent polls put his popularity at around 50%.

Obama polls ahead of potential GOP rivals in Virginia

Forty-five percent of those polled disapprove of Obama's job performance and 5 percent said they are unsure, according to the polling company based in North Carolina.

Although down he appears to have a reasonable amount of backing. To claim despised is not based on reality.

reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

While he [Obama] is not liked in the US, he continues to lead the US into the hole.

I believe you are overstating the dislike of Obama. His approval ratings are okay and really not atypical of a modern president after the mid term elections. See the link in my previous post to learn what his approval ratings actually are.

reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

You were given a link to get informed about any question you may have, and everything we have resorted all to no avail. You´re not interested in anything more than disruption, and that is boring.

Actually you never provided a link. So please be honest. I have asked repeatedly and you refused to provide the information or a link. All you did was tell me to search all over GLP and apparently I need to remind you, you did not want to post a link to GLP.

As far as alerts are concerned, what are you going to tell them? Are you going to tell the mods that you violated ATS rules many, many times in your posts?

I was wondering if you had any response to my post about the astronomical data you posted. I stated that the data seemed to show nothing in particular and that some of it was quite dated. You seemed to suggest that it indicated something was up in the solar system. Do you believe that?

reply to post by stereologist


He didn't provide a link. I provided a link, just for the reference of anyone reading the thread, even you. You seem to have ignored it.

Speaking of ignore, welcome to my ignore list. As a last substantive comment, I would note that 45% disapproval is very high. Disapproval hardly goes down, only up. It's generally slow to build (disaffected people may just say they're unsure), even slower to go away.

EDIT: I cannot seem to find a way to ignore you. Congratulations? Or maybe someone can help me out. I thought I used to be able to do this on ATS.

reply to post by oniongrass

He didn't provide a link. I provided a link, just for the reference of anyone reading the thread, even you. You seem to have ignored it.

Speaking of ignore, welcome to my ignore list. As a last substantive comment, I would note that 45% disapproval is very high. Disapproval hardly goes down, only up. It's generally slow to build (disaffected people may just say they're unsure), even slower to go away.

I would love to see the link. I'm glad someone came forward to mention the existence of the link. Can you give me some idea of where to look? Is it in the first 5 pages?

Also, 45% disapproval and 5% unsure still leaves 50% approval. I'm not saying I approve or disapprove of the President. I am only saying that these values are typical of a US president after the midterms. You may think 50% approval is low, but then you would also find all other presidents as low.

Check out this chart from the Wall Street Journal.
How the Presidents Stack Up
Truman 1950 38%
Eisenhower 1954 65% 1958 54%
Kennedy 1962 74%
Johnson 1966 55%
Nixon 1970 58% 1974 26%
Ford
Carter 1978 43%
Reagan 1982 45% 1986 63%
Bush 1990 66%
Clinton 1994 48% 1998 62%
Bush 2002 73% 2006 35%
Obama 45% (I extrapolated the plot which ended before 2010)

Look over the data. Obama is right there with Carter, Reagan 1st term, and Clinton 1st term.

Disapproval hardly goes down, only up

That's an interesting claim. Let's go back to the charts and see if that is true. Every graph except for Clinton has the approval lower at the end than at the beginning. Despite this all of the presidents show big swings in approval. Obama's initial drop looks no different than say Clinton, Reagan, or Ford.

In general, yes drops tend to be permanent, but that isn't always true.

reply to post by oniongrass


The link is in that post which is just 2 pages back, what is wrong with you?

reply to post by stereologist


What you cite seems to be approval ratings, not disapproval did you misread?

Or are you a troll who is just trying to leave everything churning. Hm I believe so, everyone's entitled to his own opinion, and you're free to say the same about me if you like.

This is another cool video that has to do with the curret news.

I was just sent it, and I needed to share it with you, guys.

That will pretty much do it with the school yard bickering..

Snide comments will be removed and the poster warned..

Also.. Remember this...

If you respond to an Off Topic remark, even if you alerted it... YOU are also Off Topic..

The Topic of this thread is NOT.. "Who Alerted Who"

Thank you

Semper

reply to post by DutchBigBoy


When the Treaty is signed, tribulation starts...