How I got off the grid. You can too!

OP: I admire your strength and determination.

We have a friend up in the high line who is truly off the grid. No electricity, no phone, no internet. He has a very happy and interesting life. He used to work as a corporate out west for 30 years of his life. He got sick of it all and gave it up and moved. He gets his news each sunday when he goes to town for the donut and coffee ritual at the cafe. He said it feels very strange to not be connected to the internet anymore but it puts you back in touch with the earth and your surroundings more than ever. I'd love to get completely off the grid someday this way too.

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I can't say it enough. The best thing we did as a family was get away from the public school system.

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You know I have seen some strange things and it's really weird how this world works sometimes, but your thread is weird in a way that is so practical and has to do with the most basics and best things that sometimes, I just sit there looking at it thinking, we really are a blind species in many ways. We don't see what is in front of us, sometimes not even if it had big neon sign saying this is what you have been missing and angels flying around it. I always wondered what makes the human race coagulate in city's and then when things go bad they basically starve to death when a couple of miles away there are trees full of fruit. But I guess its always easier when you look at it from the outside...in, and since I spent a lot of my childhood on a country setting I just had a different experience to call on when seeing this. Its always easier when looking at anything from the outside... in, but the view changes when one looks from the inside to the outside. It really is all perspective including the forces out of our perception. We are slaves to our notions and inexplicable wants.

Though technically your not "off the grid", but then what exactly is "off the grid" mean, its possible, but then only some people would actually call that kind of ouster lifestyle fun, some might even call it hell, weird world we life in......but you are sure as hell in a better place then lots of people, including myself, I still wonder what keeps me here it's got to be more then just laziness, I'm not a city guy but this place like a cancer, its growing on me.... if i'm not careful I might actually begin to like it. One thing is for sure, somewhere out there there is a guy with a Mercedes and huge mortgage and a wife that divorced him worrying about the fluctuations of his job, and has to pay bills on everything, then he has to pay for paying bills, till he is old and grey...sitting around wondering about life and thinking "at least I don't have to life in the country or in some god forsaken mountain top in a shaby cabin"....... And somewhere out there there is a dude living off the land on a mountain in a cabin and not thinking at all about some dude in a Mercedes in a city as he checks his laptop and portable electric generator.

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I commend you for taking such drastic steps to live off the grid. You are brave, noble, and deserve many kudos for doing something radically different and BETTER for yourself, your children and the environment. 8)

I wish you a lifetime of happiness and success living off the grid.

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I notice this is specifically for the Canadian Legal System. Is there a similar video addressing the American Legal System?

Can someone please explain the strawman/freeman thing to me in laymans terms?
Its rather confusing, and a simplistic explanation would be greatly appreciated.

I wonder, is it possible to do rent to own on larger properties? Acreage? Now I have something else to look into!

Thanks.

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Your challenges and success in meeting them, reminds me of a Horatio Alger story. Very encouraging and uplifting. Thanks for posting some very informative links. Marking this thread so I can return to read more.

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Absolutely, just make sure you work with owners and not realtors. Allot of farmers have great areas of acreage that is unused, and they see to people that want to build homes, bring a mobile home, or use for hunting.

But here are some of the question you will have to ask that are very important, one if you live in the country, do you have access to water. If they have the area, but no well, you will have to pay for it to be built, which can cost $5000-10,000 dollars. and find out about the electric company, if you choose to have it, they are great, the electric company in rural areas, or owned by the people in the rural area, not by a big company. Once you are with them you become part of that ownership.

Now here is the best part, I live in an Unincorporated area.
An unincorporated community is one general term for a geographic area having a common social identity without benefit of municipal organization or official political designation (i.e. incorporation as a city or town).

Now where I live there are no police, no hospitals, no post office. If the police decided to come here for whatever reason, only a sheriff can come here, and no one else. Everyone pretty much watching out for each other.

So look into these things, getting off the grid, can sometimes mean that similar rules state and or government wise do not apply to you either. They kind of don't think about people out here.

Good luck on your research I know you will find a great place.

Peace to you...

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Hehehe... When I first saw the thread's title, I thought the subject was about being 'off the grid' literally. I was going to point out that -- Since you have an internet connection, phone number (land-line/cell), social-security number, and address, you are still very-very much on the grid.

I have seen many creative thread titles over the last few weeks, and I have to give everyone credit in coming up with some pretty catchy ways to get attention.

Well, I hope you enjoy your new life, and I also hope you make many new memories in your new place.


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Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
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Thank you for that question. As a matter of fact, when I decided to really get off the grid I knew that as long as I kept to myself, signed the paper work for my home and land, as quietly, BTW I signed everything as a freeman , and of course, no one bothered to notice, that if there was ever a time for me to stand up, and keep my land due to any unforeseen authority, that everything that I have signed for wasn't under my corporate name. Ms. XXXXX but as Ms. Xxxx, also I have made sure that if at anytime, I was to be called into court for any reason, that my paper work, signature, and information is under the sovereignty of myself as a free person.

I am currently in the process of filing my UCC-1 documents to make sure that all of the properties I own, including myself, will be within my rights to be a freeman on MY land.

Also, I have learned how to represent myself in most situations that may call for myself being called into any situation that would try to tread on my rights, the rights of my pursuit of happiness, and my rights to be free.


Peace to you...

Careful with that free man stuff... Here's an articlefrom the Examiner, which is anything but a mainstream outlet.

I sympathize with the desire to be a "free man," but from what I read, it has landed so many people in jail... I would hate to see that happen to you; you've come so far already.

So, what happened to the house? Did you let it go back to the original owner when you purchased your mobile home?

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Thank you for the article. First, this isn't for everyone. This is a process, that if not done properly can make your situation worse. Most people will skim through the process, and forget the most important pieces of information.

When wanting to represent yourself as a sovereign person, you cannot just state it and thats the end. You have to know exactly what they know, but instead of it trapping you, you have to have the key components to make a challenge, and thats knowledge.

There are separate parts to every situation. There are rules and regulations to this process. And if you are not aware of all the rules, then you can get caught in the trap. I happen to be a great speaker, I keep eye contact, and I let people know right off, that I am well informed, and that the game can be played on their turf if necessary.

This usually confuses those who are used to playing the "what we say, is the law". When you realize the game, all the pieces (the part played by the judges and courts, statutes, laws, amendments, current rights, and how to represent yourself) you pretty much have either a group that is dazed and confused, or those who don't even want to deal with the problem.

Please try to read or watch some of the previous videos, they do explain allot. I will also post more, as to more explain the situation. This isn't about me telling people to go out and yell "I'M FREE", this is to tell people that saying that your free is a title that has to be earned, by knowing the game, and setting the rules that its a right to be free, not a privilege.

Peace to you...

Here is another piece of information.

14th Amendment Citizenship: Citizen or citizen?


Peace to you... more to come

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Well, So, whats the gist of this?
Your essentially buying/renting land off of a farmer?
And if thats the case, couldnt you still be tracked?

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To NoRegretsEver:

First and foremost I would like to say Thank You for sharing your story.

This is my first time posting so please bear with me.

We have been acquainted with the Freeman on the Land for about a year and are trying to obtain the 'knowledge' we need so we can continue our quest in the positive. I appreciate your strong emphasis on this absolutely necessary element.
We started sharing some of what we were learning with someone who immediately jumped the gun (without carefully researching the order in which they should do things and exactly how they should go about it) and they ran head long into a brick wall.

I understand how some are afraid, given the information they find in the debunking articles like the one in the Examiner, but that is how we have been controlled since the day we were born. 'Fear Mongering'...For heaven's sake don't step outside the box we have put you in or you may discover something different and better (like the truth) and then we can't control you.
Be Afraid! Be Very Afraid! ...this is what they want.
When reading an article like this, one must keep in mind that there are those who use the Freeman idea as a guise to channel their negative energy in a way that causes harm to others which is totally not the way of the Freeman and just plain wrong.

"Knowledge is Power" as the old saying goes and it is each individual's responsibility to use this knowledge/power positively not negatively.

Research definitely!...there are those willing to share personal experience like yourself and supply the rest of us with proper directions...thank you to all who do...2 thumbs up!!!

Thank you for the article. First, this isn't for everyone. This is a process, that if not done properly can make your situation worse. Most people will skim through the process, and forget the most important pieces of information.

When wanting to represent yourself as a sovereign person, you cannot just state it and thats the end. You have to know exactly what they know, but instead of it trapping you, you have to have the key components to make a challenge, and thats knowledge.

I view the path of the Freeman as being similar to the method of tacking when sailing...you will invariably run into the very thing that wants to control you so you must learn how to handle it so as not to be trapped again in their game. The stand to be taken is one done smartly and peacefully while exercising our right to life, liberty and property.

We are proceeding along our path and trying to take our steps in the right order and this thread has been a big help...thank you to the OP and all those who have posted be it pro or con. I find even the negatives help me to think of things I might not have and researching helps to secure a stronger positive understanding of my pro stance.

Best wishes to all who chose a path similar to that of NoRegretsEver's path.
'Deconstruct'...the negative & 'Recontsruct'...the positive

I look forward to following this thread with more Hope than ever...for all...Peace!

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Here is a link to a YouTube video "The Freeman and Strawman Explained"...it may help.
I hope the link works as this is the 1st time I have tried this.



Also previously mentioned by NoRegretsEver was Robert Menard and his series of videos called "Bursting Bubbles".

Peace!

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hmmm...I just checked the link I posted in my previous reply to you and it brought up an entirely different page so try clicking on the link below...I tried it in the preview and it worked for me.

www.youtube.com...

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I want to thank you, as you fully understand the concept that I put forward. This is a process , and as long as applied carefully, we have nothing to lose, so best wishes with your journey on being a sovereign person, and I'm glad that this thread was able to help.

Peace to you...

Wow, this is inspiring. I'm just a kid yet, so I probably won't be able to get up and walk out, but I do have ambitions to move to Germany and live simple when I turn 16-18 or something. I think that you're living great, I've been toying with ideas on how to live in a personal Socialist world, and this is how! You don't live by others rules, you picked what is right for you and became successful out of it.

Good luck in your future.