How I got off the grid. You can too!

i cant thank you enough for the resources and incite! you deserve a medal or something.


i still have a question regarding the sovereign thing and that is, is it possible to be too connected to become a freeman? or can pretty much anything get undone? for instance, criminal background or tribal citizenship are pretty difficult contracts to dissolve.

i guess what im getting at is, have you ever heard of anybody trying and not being able to do it in the end?

thanks again sorry for the bombarding of questions.

either way im still getting off the grid asap. i cant even have my own garden where i live...

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Here are some more videos to explain, BTW any of the information that I provide can be searched for authenticity, very easily. So please DO THE RESEARCH!! AND BE FREE!!

Think Free : Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception 1/8


Think Free : Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception 2/8


You can get the rest of the videos there.

Peace to you...

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


Quick question, but first I must say that this is all new to me. All of what you described in your opening post and the subsequent videos, is it applicable outside of the US?

reply to post by LarryLove


I'm not sure which country you would be referring, but this is for both the U.S. and Canada.

www.natural-person.ca...

Also the link to the Mary Croft pdf, is also for the U.S, Canada, and the U.K.


Peace to you...

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


Thank you. I should have been clearer in my post. Specifically, the UK and wondered if some of what you detail is relevant to other countries as well.

Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
He said $400.00 down and $450 a month. I told him I would call in a week.

$450 a month for a house!?!?!?? Holy Hell! I pay $500 a month renting a ROOM! Just one tiny 8x10 ROOM!!!
I hate California lol

I just did something similar about a month ago, and dont regret it. My stress level is now near 0% (was near 100%), air is clean and fresh, I can go fishing EVERYDAY, water tastes great, neibours are sympatic. I live alone so it was quite easy to do.

Getting back to country living is GREAT!

reply to post by LarryLove


Here are videos concerning the U.K. and the strawman by John Harris a must see. I hope this is what you were looking for.

Thinkfree.ca Freeman on the Land UK Truth of the Person 1 of 5.mp4

All the other parts are there.


Peace to you...

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


Thank you. I'll have a little look now.

By the way, your opening post...very inspirational. There's a lot of us feeling despair at the moment, me included, and your post is very refreshing to read.

Edit to say: Actually, I am going to bed, but will watch this tomorrow morning and post my thoughts then. Good night.

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Have a very good night, and I hope that the feeling of despair will dwindle, especially when you have something to look forward too.

Peace to you...

Good post. What I really like about it is that you did it with next to nothing. That proves it's not about funds; it's about attitude. As I'm sure you've noticed, there are any number of threads with people whining about wanting to get out, but they don't have the wherewithall to do it. You've proven them wrong, and it's not as if you didn't have responsibilities, either. I'm keeping this thread handy so next time I see a whiner I can just post the link.

And yeah, there's 'off the grid' and then there's "OFF THE GRID." The thing is, it's a process. It's rare to be able to do everything at once. If you look at the whole project, it seems a daunting and impossible task. But just start somewhere and keep plugging along. You remove one tentacle at a time until you free yourself from the octopus.

Congrats.

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What most people fail to realize is that the same system that forced you to be on the grid, can be used to get off the grid. I propose that people just try, I advised a cousin of mine, who claims she just cant do it, to go online and look at some nice places, pictures, school, prices, and you can then visualize what is right in front of you, as opposed to surrounding yourself around what makes you unhappy in the first place.

Strive for something to look forward too. Take a couple of pictures of a place you can afford, but cannot go to right now, and make a copy, put it up in your office, or by the door of your home, so you can see it every time you go to work.

It can literally take 5 minutes to change your day, and with the strength and no how you can change your life.

Peace to you...

Interesting thread OP.

But, what made you really decide to move out of the Bronx besides post 9/11 world? Did you reside in the most dangerous part of the Bronx?

reply to post by ReAlIzAtIoN


Well it was a little of both, I did live in the area the NY Daily News once called the most dangerous are in NYC. Though I had grown up in this environment, as a parent I knew nothing good would come of it. I hear now that NYC has gotten worse, so I am glad I left.

Sometimes the city is all someone knows, and is afraid of something different. I still miss somethings but its mostly the diversity, and the great food.

Peace to you...

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


Excellent video.

Jordan Maxwell knows the score.

Pass by me okay, but go back - back track and see NoRegretsEver's Jordan Maxwell videos and star this asute observer, please.

JM knows the score, he knows how the "system" works.



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Very nice read. Glad it worked out well for you. Some of us though really would have a rough time off the grid so to speak. I am however forming a plan to get the heck out of this city in the next few months. Moving back to a place with a much better job market.

The job I am currently at is closing up shop at the end of the year. Luckily enough they just opened unlimited overtime to prevent from having to hire new staff to cover our gaps. I'll be working the next 30 days straight, 12 hours a day. So I plan on having quite a bit more than 2000 when I move. Also when the doors close I will be given 6 months severance pay, insurance and unemployment payments provided I haven't found anything yet.

My particular skill set is really not in heavy demand in this city, have been wanting out of here for 6 years now. This is the first chance i've had to make a break. Hopefully I don't go nutty with all the hours worked, I just have to keep my eyes on the prize.

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


This proves we are slaves. A commodity just like cattle.

My question is to whom?

Now read "Book of the Damned" by Charles Fort.

reply to post by NoRegretsEver

Pardon my digression...
Man you just blew my mind with the Bursting Bubbles and Jordan Maxwell vids! We are property with value that increases and decreases. We are part of the stock market, literally, with an account number printed on our birth certificate.
Is it time to look into Sovereign Citizenship, or can we just fade away? The thing is, in order to truly be free of the system, you must also sacrifice(?) the things provided by that system, which sounds okay to me, unless it somehow leaves me restricted from doing something of importance or necessity for myself. I am not sure what "things," exactly.
I have to watch thru these and do some research, thanks for the info!

Peace

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I am on the short road to this as well.

In the last couple of years I have managed to pay off all of my debts and, better yet, not incurr new ones.

All that is left is to buy land.

I hope to be building a house in the next couple of years. At first I was nervous about leaving the world I've lived in my entire life, but as I look around the I am forced to realise that 'reality' as most know it is a synthetic version of what it should be.

Congrats for taking the steps yourself, I hope to follow soon.

The midwest is a wonderful place, was born and raised here. However, moved away for thirty years. My wife and I had a beautiful place in FL, 1.5 acres, room for the horses and all of that. Almost 4 years ago, I was hurt on the job, dropped my income by a third, and then the company she worked for went bankrupt owing us in excess of 12,000 dollars.

Faced with a ridiculous situation, we allowed our house to go back to the man that held the contract, moved back to the midwest, in with my mother. We have a nice apartment sized space to live in, both work part time, look after my mother and step father, and was blessed to be able to look after my grandfather for the last 6 months of his life.

What I am trying to say is that I applaud the OP, it is time for all of us to downsize, and look out for our own. They may be family, and we may not like them, but it is time to go back to the things that made this country strong.