New UFO Footage from Northeast England 7-18-10

Originally posted by plube
reply to post by yigsstarhouse

 

well that may well be but they could also be at the end of the flight...they are coming down and the candles are extinguishing....but to just blantantly deny any possibility out of hand when you posed the post i think you have already decided the are ufo....

but once again...try the test i stated i i bet you change your mind quite swiftly.

i say it from experience....not just off handly...

but the choice is yours

I haven't made up my mind at all about it. That is why I have posted it here. I found the footage intriguing.
My response was just to the fact that the video shows them dropping not rising. They appear out of thin air, they dont rise up to it.
I have lit lanterns and I have filmed them, I am not denying that at all in how they appear on video. I just dont think that is what we are seeing here.
I really think you misunderstood me.

reply to post by askbaby


POSTSCRIPT - and possibly the killer: If so - then there would be hundreds of other reports... And that leads me to my final concern... If what we see was actual... there would definitely be tens, dozens or hundreds of other reports because of the proximity of residences, either innocent "flares were seen by hundreds of witnesses" or "UFO like object similar to that seen over China visits NE England"

I have addressed this in another thread but worth reiterating here. Several years ago the early morning mail plane into my city, population 200,000+, airport crashed short of the runway. It was about 5-6 am when it crashed and it nearly took the roof off several houses on the estate by the woods that are at the end of the runway. The number of eyewitnesses...?? 0. Now if there are no visual eyewitnesses to a sizeable plane flying 50 ft off the floor over houses, what makes you think anyone might have noticed just some flashing lights in the sky?

sorry for saying it was a villiage, my mistake
also another mistake is in my e-mail to the m.o.d, as ive put the date 18/7/10 but after 8pm
i didnt notice it was 2am
doing well so far!!!
its still a very interesting video
i cant seem to come to any conclusion other than flares but over a built up area???
thats what is nagging at me
there is also the possibility of CGI as mentioned
but wouldnt you think they would have made it seem more proper? or like straight in your face?
9mins+ is quite a long video for a ufo sighting
but maybe thats the stage we are at now, instead of the obvious CGI we have come to the point of mind games!

They look like flares to me. You can see them drop down as they are igniting.

Anyway, for what it's worth, I just checked the RNLI press center to see if there were any rescues in the area at the time. Gateshead is about 12Km from the coast.

They have nothing listed at all in that area on 18/7 at 2am. The date was specific, but checked 19/7 as well just in case the guy forgot it had gone past midnight.

www.rnli.org.uk...

IMHO these are cars. The lights appear and disappear as the headlights go behind objects. They are on a distant hill/mountain. They are in a string, as if on a highway.

Similar videos have come on the internet, later to be proven to be cars on a highway.

Show me the same location in daylight, and I bet you'll see a ridge.

[edit on 7/22/2010 by Jim Scott]

Ok i think i have an orientation for this now. The video, i believe, is shot looking West North West. That would make the lights move from, roughly South West to North east. The prevailing winds in this country are South Westerlys, so that does add some credence to the *flares* theory. However, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an onshore easterly wind that evening given the close proximity to the North Sea and the Rive Tyne running somewhere through that video.

reply to post by yigsstarhouse


Hello Yigsy,
LOL... I am from the Northwest of England, nr Liverpool, and grew up there for 30yrs...
And whilst I live in the States now, I am quite familiar still with the Old Country... No offense taken though!

That was a Sunday night, so the last of the party animals and drunkards would have been spilling out onto the streets...

As you say though... It is slightly unfortunate that it was at such a late hour... And sort of adds to the confusion, as who would set off flares at 2am...

Ttfn
Askbaby

reply to post by Jim Scott


Good grief Scott... There's no 'ills that high in bloody England... None that are that high by 'alf.

Seriously, I am from the North of England. The only "hills" anything like high enough would be in the far northwest of England, in the Lake District, and they don't have roads running up them.

Whilst I do not know what we are seeing, and they could easily be flares or, as described by Free Spirit on page 3... This could be some form of video manipulation... It is definitely not cars going down a hill... Not in England anyways...

Also it is relatively clear that the video is shot from high ground looking eastwards towards the North Sea... No hills there...

[edit on 22-7-2010 by askbaby]

reply to post by FireMoon


Thank you FireMoon... Upon reflection I agree with your pointing this out. I have just now edited my original post (see page 3) accordingly.

I do still think that whilst not hundreds or even dozens... One could expect other reports, even given the late hour... As this is a somewhat (seemingly) spectacular show, and it seemingly goes on for quite some time, and from what I can discern at quite some altitude... So it could have been seen from quite some distance...

Can someone clearly identify the exact location, direction etc... And the I am sure we can all take a look on Google Maps...

reply to post by askbaby


As far as i can ascertain the footage was taken near Cleadon Mill looking towards Gateshead. That means looking inland from the east in West Nor West direction.

Bastard where was this I live in durham and missed it.Definitely not lanterns, wrong colour and behaviour.Very cool..

reply to post by free_spirit



The footage is apparently from Gateshead, one of the voices on the video tell his friend on a phone they are at Gateshead around I think the 8:20 mark.


Looking at the video in your context and analysis, I have to say the footage ( the lights at least) looks all the world like anti-aircraft fire being fired.

As we can't hear any sound of anti-aircraft fire, (unless the sound was muffled by wind?) and as I don't recall there being any reports or claims of Flak being fired over Gateshead, it's possible, if my theory is correct, that it may well tie in with yours, that the footage of the lights was superimposed onto the video.


For comparison with the video, watch this footage of Iraqi anti-aircraft fire being fired into the night sky at incoming cruise missiles during the opening stages of the invasion of Iraq in 2003.




In particular, look at the video between 3:19 and 3:27 before the camera pans away.

High-proximity fuse shells being fired, illuminate in the night and which self-detonate in the sky if no contact is made with aircraft/missile, so the shell does not crash back to earth.


So, if the Gateshead video is anti-aircraft fire:

1) Why was it being fired, and why no reporting about it?

2) If the lights are superimposed as free_spirit proposed as an explanation, is the footage from Baghdad "Shock and Awe" 2003?

[edit on 23-7-2010 by Regensturm]

I live in Gateshead (well a few miles outside). There was definately no anti aircraft fire on the 18th, in fact i very much doubt there are the facilities for doing such things in this part of England, or the need for them.

There is no talk of this event as far as I know anywhere and I think its highly unlikely this is anything other than a hoax or some type of flare drop.

Looking at the video I would like to ask for those who think its a UFO rotating... why would it be at such a jaunty angle (i.e if the lights were around the middle of the craft why would they apear on a slant?)?

To me it looks like they appear, glide along on the wind before falling to towards the ground.

It certianly doesn't look like a phoenix lights incident to me at all.

I watch these videos and I wonder what it is that lead people to think it was UFOs? It seems to be "any light in the sky", because there is nothing extraordinary about this video. I thought UFOs were supposed to dart around and do things aircraft couldn't? These days all the ufos seem to have all the maneuvering power of a balloon.

reply to post by Hudson


The definition of U. F. O. is Unidentified Flying Object, in short anything in the sky that can not be described as being identified.

A UFO does not mean an ET craft, but anything in the sky unidentified.

UFOs have taken many shapes over the years, the classic disc shape is the image that springs to most minds, but UFOs have come in all shapes and sizes, including triangular and cigar-shaped, and moving in all sorts of way and sometimes stationary, which often leads to the reason why they are flying objects that are unidentified because they can not be identified very easily or their identity is disputed.

Technically a UFO would have to be a flying object. I am not convinced these are flying at all... they do not show any flight characteristics as such and do not appear to be under any sort of control when it comes to the path they are taking, or that they are moving from a point to another which is a specific destination.

Not wanting to nit pick or anything but i'm not convinced this/these can be classed as in the UFO bracket.

That footage is real interesting.

Looks very real to me. However, I have never seen a UFO before, therefore, I would have no real way of knowning.

Be Safe

Irishspirit

reply to post by Phage


Phage... I am suprised at you. I have lived near Shoeburyness Ranges since I was two years old, and pretty much the only way to see more flares than I have, is to use them in the field, or to be a trained observer employed by the MOD or its subcontractors. When flares are being tested, they are most certainly launched from the ground, and then tracked by observers with remote operated cameras to document descent rate, burn time, and stability in the air.
In short sir, when in actual use they only fall, but when being tested by the Ministry they are launched from the ground, and so first rise into the air, and then fall.

reply to post by ajax_andy


I take your point, and understand where you're coming from, but a UFO does not have to be flying as such, it can be stationary, as long as it's in the sky and an unidentified object.

The 'Flying' in Unidentified Flying Object is misleading, I know.

Probably a more correct description for such cases would be UAO: Unidentified Aerial Object.

Originally posted by Regensturm
reply to post by Hudson

 

The definition of U. F. O. is Unidentified Flying Object, in short anything in the sky that can not be described as being identified.

Sure, but lets not pretend that most of the people who post these think its anything other than an alien space craft or top secret government project.