No charges over G20 man's death

No charges over G20 man's death

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An officer who was filmed apparently pushing a man to the ground during the G20 protests will not face charges over his death.

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My blood is boiling. They say the case fell apart due to medical experts not being able to agree on cause of death. Two experts said internal bleeding was the cause and one says it was natural causes.

I'm not anti-police but this is a complete disgrace and a miscarriage of justice. That policeman got away with murder.

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Some background info in case you haven't followed this case.

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An officer who was filmed apparently pushing a man to the ground

The video footage showed him being apparently struck by a baton and then pushed to the ground.

Apparently video evidence isn't convincing enough for the bbc...

I know, still can't believe it. The only reason this even came to light is because someone filmed it happening and handed it into a newspaper. At first, the police just said it was a heart attack and never even mentioned the assault, then the video showed up and it all came out, so there was a cover up until the truth was forced out. I wonder if the pathologist was also bent.

THIS IS WRONG.....justice system in this country is a joke...they take 15 months to investigate.,...knowing after 6 months of investigating the charges would be thrown out of court

[edit on 22-7-2010 by Pockets]

Rather par for the course these days isn't it, when the police kill someone.

Remember it was not so long ago that an innocent brazilian was shot 7 times in the head, and how the police lied about every aspect of that event. Before that one even got to the inquiry stage, the shooter and the operation commander had both been promoted. Even better, the officer in charge of that operation has since been promoted again and is a senior figure in the "Independent(?) Police Complaints Commission".... how very apt that they staff such an office with someone whose negligence killed an innocent man, and who then lied through their teeth to cover their arse!

The use of the word "apparently" seems more than little bizarre. The video clearly showed the officer assault the guy that died. There was no "apparently" about it, it was a clear case of assault, at the very least.

reply to post by Britguy

Rather par for the course these days isn't it, when the police kill someone.

I'm sure it would of been a lot different if the man had killed the police man

Originally posted by Pockets
.,...knowing after 6 months of investigating the charges would be thrown out of court

[edit on 22-7-2010 by Pockets]

Yep, I know that the most likely charge of common assault would have had more chance of sticking but as you say, after 6 months that charge expires and can't be used. The whole thing stinks. The officer knew he was doing wrong, why else would he purposefully cover up his i.d at the time of assault?

reply to post by Hawkwind.

why else would he purposefully cover up his i.d at the time of assault?

SKUM...that's why, power trip coppers thinking they are untouchable....this won't be the end...the family will push for justice

I knew from the start he was not going to be prosecuted and in another post when this event occured I said so then. Britain has now officially become a police state. When the boys in blue wear their riot gear, watch out, coz they cant be filmed (illegal to film police carrying out their duties in britain.) giving you a beating and they are immune to being prosecuted. Cant have the governments badboys thinking they cant do their jobs when being filmed and under risk of going to prison now can we?

Three post-mortem examinations were conducted on Mr Tomlinson's body leading to different conclusions.

The first found the father of nine died of natural causes, the second of internal bleeding and the results of the third, conducted on behalf of the officer, were not made public.

The reason its not made public is maybe it confirmed the second examination which says he died from internal injuries....

[edit on 22/7/2010 by loner007]

Put all the complaining, anger, and frustration, sense of injustice, helplessness, fury and general sick feeling aside.

What can anyone DO about this?
What is anyone going to DO about this?

NOTHING.

Write to someone and complain.
Petition your member of parliament.
Start a collection and a local support group.
...anything else that provides a sense of 'doing something'.

Face it, not one of us has the power or influence to do anything about this. Walk up and down the street waving a banner, shouting, stomping your feet. You will get some sense of satisfaction, but if you think it has any impact on those 'up there' then I do not know what to say.

People need to start from this point:

What PRACTICALLY can we do to take back power from these people?

After thinking for a while one realises that there is nothing one can do to really effect change on issues, other than those which we are ALLOWED to influence, in order to provide the ILLUSION of meaningful participation in society.

We need a plan of action.

This is an absolute outrage.

The publc should demand an immediate inquiry into the events surrounding the death Ian Tomlinson and the subsequent conduct of the police, the investigation, the autopsy's and the CPS decision.

What an opportunity for a young, ambitious, investagative journalist.

Ian Tomlinson is not the first.
Blair Peach en.wikipedia.org... and Liddle Towers en.wikipedia.org... are two examples of people who were murdered by UK police yet no-one was charged.

So the police can just murder everyone they please eh?

Not that i ever supported him, but people wonder why the likes of Raol Moat got so much support when he waged war against the police.

Absolute bastards.

reply to post by mr-lizard


It's certainly an issue of injustice, but you make it sound like the Officer got away with attempted murder, which we both know is not the case. Would you be as infuriated if one of your friends tripped somebody as a joke, only to have that person suffer a heart attack and die?

The contempt you feel for law enforcement officials is impacting your ability to reason and makes your views on the matter come across as bias.

[edit on 22/7/2010 by Dark Ghost]

reply to post by Hawkwind.


The pathologist of the first post mortem had a dubious history and has since been suspended due to disputed autopsies in four other cases.

reply to post by Pentothal


As Joe said:

"Let fury have the hour, Anger can be power"

reply to post by Dark Ghost


And if someone had done that to a Police Officer what would the outcome have been?

My blood is boiling too, hawkwind. Utter lunacy from the police/IPCC. But it is what we have come to expect these days from those who are there to "protect us" (LOL)

The words i want to use, I can't on this forum. The ammount of hatred I have for the police, can not be expressed on this foum for my boiling blood will get the better of me. All I can say is this. I hope Ian Thomlisons ghost taunts this pig scum, until he kills himself out of shamefor what he's done and got away with, because of what his job is.

Just utter scum. All of them. Every single last one of them.

Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Dark Ghost

 

And if someone had done that to a Police Officer what would the outcome have been?

4x Helicopters, the SAS, A tornado jet, a entire village cordoned off and the police making themselves look like Angels sent from Heaven.