Get Your Permit: Silver Iodide Weather Modification is REAL

instead of taking the word DISCUSSION litrally, dissing and cussing isnt going to solve anything, what we seem to have came to is that people who are opposing this seem fine with saying cloud seeding but not chemtrail, well to me the word is basically the same its a trail with chemicals in, yes people have attributed the word to many things but that doesnt mean it means any of those things, like the word drug most people will come to a negative conclusion because everytime they hear the word drug its usually associated with negative imagery, the terms thrown around because there is a disagreement on what the term is associated with because the experience they see is subjective but the word describing the experience is the same, its causing problems with this debate getting anywhere.

We must question what is the reason for the NEED to do all of this, if the systems become dependent on seeding or wild life becomes dependent on having more water than usual, this could be terrible.

reply to post by Sri Oracle


Me too!!! I want some of this...with proof, and everything...those "heavy metals"....and DON'T just say "silver iodide again...):

The government is modifying the weather.
They are using heavy metal chemicals to do it.

So, I'm with the fire guy above...gimme, gimme, gimme...or go.

Originally posted by Sri Oracle

Are you going to come back with 100 affirmations for both questions?
I'm going to place a bet that you get at least 99 folks claiming elephants exist.

Okay poor example.

How about the members of the Manchester United Football Club Youth Team.

I bet you'd struggle to find many Americans who know that.

Does this mean it's secret? A conspiracy? No, just that only those interested in the subject know about it.

H*ll, a lot of Americans don't even know who you fought the War of Independance against!

But, in the US at least, there is also no evidence that the government is spraying anyone with anything.

Were you not here several pages ago when we were talking about municipality water systems financing chemical weather modification as a matter of fact?

Local water companuies are not the Federal Government, any more than farmers and skie resorts are. They are the ones paying for other companies to carry out cloud seeding.

I am creating a meme, its about time someone did:


CHEMICAL WEATHER MODIFICATION IS REAL.

Yes, and so is the Manchester United FC Youth Team.

So what?

Those who care know, those who don't care don't and anyone who wants to care can easily find out if they can put down their play station for 5 minutes.



Now it may well be that we agree more people should know about it. But there are lots of other things I think people should know about but which they don't. Including who the Americans fought the WoI against .....

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Most people would not know how to do calculus or organic chemistry either.

Does that mean those are suppressed information? No. You can not link obscurity or disinterest, with suppression of said information.

You have probably never heard of Leishmaniasis, a disease. Does that mean it is secret and being withheld from you?



[edit on 20-7-2010 by firepilot]

Originally posted by firepilot
What is "The Government". The US has lots of different governmental entities. As you saying the Federal Government is doing this, and not often individual water districts contracting to private companies?

If I build a home and the local building inspector grants me a permit to do so, after that inspector signs off on the permit, if something happens to my home and he should have noted such upon inspection... then that building inspector is liable.

If the state of texas is PERMITTING silver iodide cloud seeding projects, then in my eyes the GOVERNMENT is complicit.

What "Heavy Metals" are being used? Got proof?

www.pesticideinfo.org...

SILVER IODIDE

Chem Class: Heavy Metal

I have you as proof... you claimed to fly planes that used silver iodide to seed clouds.

Sri Oracle

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"The object of spraying Sarin, Tabun and VX gases over fields and woods was to see “how they would be affected by the climate and other atmospheric conditions”. Tests at sea were to check how chemical and biological agents might affect warships."

"Hundreds of documents have been released by the Public Record Office in Kew about chemical and biological experiments at Porton Down in the 1950s and 1960s when human beings were used as guinea pigs. Those tests, however, involved small amounts of the gases and agents in laboratory conditions.

Those who “volunteered” from the military have claimed in recent years that they were told the experiments were about the common cold. Wiltshire police are investigating the case of Ronald Maddison, who died in 1953 after Sarin was put on his skin.

The Pentagon released the new files at the request of the Department of Veterans’ Affairs, which is lobbying for extra healthcare services for the 5,000 or so Americans involved in chemical and biological weapons testing.

It is not known how many Britons were involved, but claims for extra healthcare benefits by US servicemen could prompt similar claims in the UK — if any are still alive. "

"Crop-dusting was not the only method used to “weaponise” the nerve agents. The files explain how British and US military personnel used “rain-type” munitions and bombs."

Source

"The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public.

A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.

Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told. "

Source

[edit on 20-7-2010 by steven barnes]

Originally posted by firepilot

You have probably never heard of Leishmaniasis, a disease. Does that mean it is secret and being withheld from you?

And people should know about it in case they, or someone they know, suffers from it!




What is it?

Originally posted by firepilot

You have probably never heard of Leishmaniasis, a disease. Does that mean it is secret and being withheld from you?

I see where you're going....

and truthfully, I was aware of Leighmaniasis; specifically the meme:

"Leishmaniasis is a parasitic disease spread by the bite of infected sand flies"

If leishmaniasis was spread by fleets of cessna airplanes in government sanctioned programs...

then you'd have a point.

Sri Oracle

Chemtrails are just cloud seeding experiments.

They aren't exactly dropping antrhax on the masses....

reply to post by Essan

And do you not remember the Bejing Olympics when the issue of cloud seeding to prevent rainfall during the Games was a frequent TV News story?

And when you look on news sites like Fox, CNN, and NBC, that's the only story you'll find in their history.

Myself, I have never seen a story about weather modification going on right now in the mainstream media, I actually read the Bejing story here on ATS I think.

I never see stories about this going on a regular basis in for instance Texas.

Well apparently you are right, you can call it a heavy metal, because heavy metal is now a meaningless term for chemistry.

Chemistry International, 2001
www.iupac.org...
""Heavy Metals"- A Meaningless Term"

Its de-volved into a term with no real definition in regards to Chemistry

I was thinking of nuclear Heavy Metals, which have a specific definition in nuclear physics and specific ELEMENTS. But it would have nothing to do with Silver Iodide.

reply to post by Sri Oracle


hi there Sri Oracle

Interesting Chem trails
members.iimetro.com.au...

Scientists Admit Chemtrails Are Creating Artificial Clouds 7/8/10
drleonardcoldwell.com...

some will refute , have a argument , believing its harmless spraying for weather modifications , what what is exactly in those chemicals ?
the can say all they want to the public media and they will bite .right into the BS..


The military has been doing it for decades in the clouds for Radar interference called Chaffing
Source..
www.globalsecurity.org...

you know for close traffic controllers around the area can not see something that they shouldn't (xplanes Tops Secret Crafts Etc ) usually launching or landing but usually the Military will claim its Training practice runs etc...

let me say something ...

i remember a time my grand father told me there was this Fantastic Godsend Material that was Resistance to a lot of things but mostly heat!

He worked at a Aluminum plant
he said they had rolls of this Stuff in big sheets like cloth they (workers) took this stuff laid on it Floor used it like a Bed they were sleeping with it ( when they did Double's Shifts , when they had couple hours to the next shift instead of going home ) The Most Shocking was when he told me that they had Even USED it as a Table Cloth!!!!! in the Cafeteria of this Plant (Alcoa)

That Material was Asbestos
www.asbestosresource.com...

That was in the 50s 60s 70s not one of those Workers thought they were in any danger now a few died with cancer or have health problems ..

well just see this video the Shock The Horror !!! Especially the guy in this video at the beginning Using a Asbestos blanket to put a fire out!!
Knuckle biting for sure!!

I used Asbestos in Welding as it was considered Harmless!!! until way later....

I WANT to KNOW what They are Spraying !!! +++ Chem Trails +++

Uses of Asbestos: from industrial and government films from the 50s and 60s

Google Video Link

The Real Horror !! in this video! is Close to the End!!!! People You gotta see at the 4.20 Mark Get ready to have your Mouth Drop Strange but true!

why am i referring Asbestos ! The Fibers from Chem Trails are Very Close similar! Asbestos Fibers from what i see on some websites
I am not saying it is i would like to see the Forensic Makeup..


GROUND SAMPLES :
MICROSCOPIC FIBERS REVEALED
www.carnicom.com...

globalskywatch.com...

Edited for a little Grammar

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Originally posted by Point of No Return


And when you look on news sites like Fox, CNN, and NBC, that's the only story you'll find in their history.

Myself, I have never seen a story about weather modification going on right now in the mainstream media, I actually read the Bejing story here on ATS I think.

I never see stories about this going on a regular basis in for instance Texas.

I was on a San Antonio tv station about it
I was on the front page of a newspaper near there about it.
A BBC documentary was filmed there for it

And thats just was I was on there, in one year. Just because you have not seen something, does not mean it is secret or suppressed

Well, we actually don't have to look far to get the evidence on chemtrails:

Here's a Wikipedia article on the technique.

Just Scroogle "silver iodide" and you'll get all the facts on it.

Great find, OP! That kind of post is one of the two good reasons why I keep coming to this site.



[edit on 20/7/10 by Echtelion]

reply to post by firepilot

Most people would not know how to do calculus or organic chemistry either. Does that mean those are suppressed information? No. You can not link obscurity or disinterest, with suppression of said information.

Nothing but bad analogies.

Is calculus something that is forced upon you, and possibly bad for yuor health and the environment and natural weather patterns?

No. Are any of your other bogus examples? No.

reply to post by Wolfenz


Wolfenz....poor, poor Wolfenz...what to do? What to do???

Oh, I know...try to read the thread!! Because, otherwise -----

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/bd2c6f45dfae.jpg[/atsimg]

See?!? You made Jean Luc cry! Bad Wolf! Bad Wolf! No bone for you!

reply to post by firepilot

Just because you have not seen something, does not mean it is secret or suppressed

I specifically searched for it on 3 major mainstream news outlets, and found only the one Bejing story in their histories of years.

Like I said, much of it doesn't reach the masses, and the possible implications most certainly don't.

Originally posted by Point of No Return
reply to post by firepilot

 

Most people would not know how to do calculus or organic chemistry either. Does that mean those are suppressed information? No. You can not link obscurity or disinterest, with suppression of said information.

Nothing but bad analogies.

Is calculus something that is forced upon you, and possibly bad for yuor health and the environment and natural weather patterns?

No. Are any of your other bogus examples? No.

You are changing the goal posts.

Your point was exactly that, that if a lot of people do not know about certain knowledge, then it is being hidden. Now you are making up new requirements - hence moving the goalposts.

So cloud seeding is being forced upon you? Of all the kinds of pollution you encounter in your day, I am guessing silver iodide is not part of it.

Why not have your house, drinking water, and your skin tested for exposure to silver iodide and get back to us and how much you found. I am guessing you are not being exposed to any.

But you probably have a house full of dangerous chemicals, most houses do

Don't worry guys. They have our best interests at heart.

Don't worry guys. They have our best interests at heart.