Troktiko – Controversial Greek blog administrator is assassinated

Well he had some enemies for sure but what interestes me is that it seems he willingly went with these men (not paranoid enough to distrust authority figures).So while he may of known he was stirring the pot he may not of realized that he crossed somebodies line and been marked for death. It seems obvious from the outset this is an "onion" and the layers will peel away to reveal a fog. To many people with power to lose will be happy to see him gone for justice to prevail.

reply to post by pause4thought


So, "several individuals," and "20 bullets."

This is plain, physical evidence that this hit was no "lone gunman" with a common pistol, but automatic weapons wielded by assassins wanting to leave a big calling card as a vivid warning to others.

Major participants are involved, most likely powerful forces.

reply to post by Aliensun


Check out the emerging evidence in the last post on p.1 (-posted about the same time as your post.)

Wherever you look in the MSM the police are blaming an anti-corruption group that has reportedly targeted the police and the MSM!

Taking into consideration the police had removed all this guy's computers due to the Siemens scandal a very murky picture could well be be emerging...

reply to post by pause4thought


Indeed I do smell a rat. This stinks to high heaven, and is a classic 'frame' by a wetworks team.

Parallex.

Yeah, Because Criminals don't want their Profits being Cut Into...


It's a shame really, that the unbridled LUST for money and power is what is causing this GLOBAL ECONOMIC CATASTROPHE.

Shame, Shame, Shame.

Nah... it was probably just an elaborate insurance fraud scheme...



-Edrick

There's still not a great deal out there. The latest MSM addition puts enormous emphasis on this being an open-and-shut case due to ballistics evidence collected by the police:

Ballistics tests on cartridges collected from the crime scene have linked the dawn shooting of journalist Socrates Giolias to the terror group "Revolutionaries' Sect", police announced on Monday...

...A ballistics investigation of cartridges collected from the scene of the shooting revealed that both weapons have been used in all three past attacks by the terror group "Revolutionaries' Sect".

Police found a total of 16 9mm cartridges, of which 13 came from the same gun used in the June 2009 murder of 41-year-old counter-terrorism police officer Nektarios Savvas, who was gunned down in Patissia while guarding a key female witness in the trial of the urban guerrilla group "Revolutionary Popular Struggle". The woman had been in a witness protection programme since 2002. Officer Savvas was also riddled with bullets in the attack.

The remaining three were fired from a different 9mm pistol that had also been used in the Patissia attack, as well as in the armed attack on Korydallos police station in February 3 2009 and an attack on Alter television station on February 17 the same year.

The cartridges fired by the specific gun are also a match for a cartridge found on the gravestone of Alexandros Grigoropoulos, a teenage boy shot by two police guards in December 2008, on the day after the attack on the Korydallos police station, along with a proclamation claiming responsibility for the specific attack.

Journalist gunned down in Athens

Still no hint of a motive. You would have thought an anti-corruption group would have been guarding this guy's life with everything they've got. So far the only evidence against them comes directly from the police themselves — the stated target of this group.

RIP my friend and thank you

Originally posted by silent thunder

Perhaps most famously, prim and elegant Charlotte Corday stuck a knife


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Corday wow, Maybe I am related to her?


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In the country where democracy was born.. That country ended a puppet of foreign interests.. The voice of Socrates was a lifejacket in the ocean in which millions of Greeks who daily try not to drown in the maze of problems for the Survival.
He always said: Watch out, watch out, you're not just a mouse that roars,
You are the mirror of the mire. The stranger in the gang.

IDEAS ARE BULLETPROOF!!!

GOOD JOURNEY SOCRATES

reply to post by Hellas


I'm just wondering (from your screenname) whether you understand Greek. If so, are the Greek media also suspicious this may not be what the police are making it out to be?

reply to post by pause4thought


I do understand greek. The greek media is just reporting what the police says. As always.

But there are (were) some brave people who have blogs, like the Troktiko blog who speaks openly about everything. And we just don't buy that this group killed him. This group threatend to kill journalists, but they meant the f'up and corrupt ones. Not Socrates! He was one of us! A true soldier and patriot who loved his country very very much and would do anything to expose those who want to destroy it.
So it just makes no sense..

That was a contract kill! From high above. The 3 guys showing up on his doors this morning were wearing police uniforms. And as he opened the door they emptied their guns. NO group in this world would kill you like this.

reply to post by Hellas


It's good to get your insights into this appalling crime.

How do you think 'the man in the street' will react? Is this journalist sufficiently well known/respected for people to get genuinely angry?

(After seeing the street protests in recent months people will be wondering.)

Nothing will happen. Greeks will not riot or anything.

The key to finding who murdered him lies in the cases he had uncovered as a journalist. Since the murderers always try to act proactively, the key is in the cases that have been touched by Socrates but not fully uncovered.

Originally posted by pause4thought
reply to post by Hellas

 

It's good to get your insights into this appalling crime.

How do you think 'the man in the street' will react? Is this journalist sufficiently well known/respected for people to get genuinely angry?

(After seeing the street protests in recent months people will be wondering.)

He was very popular. He also was the CEO of one very respected news radio station in Greece. The "man on the street" will have mixed feelings. Some people will be frightened by this act and some will gain even more strength to do what's right and fight for freedom

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reply to post by Hellas


That gives us a feel for how things are on the ground.

Please keep us updated from any sources at your disposal.


Incidentally, how likely is it that this is all connected to the removal of Socrates' computers over the Siemens incident?

reply to post by pause4thought


I can't speak for Greece police forensics--or even accurately for the US--but I think it doubtful that such work on over a dozen shell casings could have been done very quickly.

In this case, only the slugs themselves would have been crucial evidence.* The spent cartridges could have been planted at the scene and the used casings collected and removed. Meaning th casings supposedly recovered at the site could have come from earlier events.

High speculation, to be sure, but the quick release of the shell casing info points fingers where they are wanted to be pointed. That gives me pause to wonder. Obviously, they already had detailed forensics from the earlier events in order to quickly make a match! This also adds to my questioning the official story.

I have no knowledge one way or the other about this incident, so I have no axe to grind in this matter.

*A cartridge is a complete round, bullet/slug and the casing/jacket is the portion ejected from the gun (if automatic) after firing. Advanced police unit forensics routinely collect the spent rounds (bullets) and ejected casings as evidence. But that entails a labor-intensive, microscopic examination of each object.

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if you want to know who killed him follow the money he threatened...


yellow media will always blame such killing on the left , google operation gladio where cia and italian thugs murdered police and women and children and tourists for decades and for one specific goal

to demonize the left

and one secondary goal,

to terrorize the citizen

reminds me of other murders committed to demonize arabs in 2001

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Originally posted by pause4thought
reply to post by Hellas

 

That gives us a feel for how things are on the ground.

Please keep us updated from any sources at your disposal.


Incidentally, how likely is it that this is all connected to the removal of Socrates' computers over the Siemens incident?

Let's just say that the Blog did post the cd with a recorded audio of the conversation between Mr. Christoforakos (the siemens guy who gave money to high ranked greek politicians to open ways for Siemens in Greece) and his lawyer were they were talking about how to "ease" things between Siemens and Greece and ho to prevent him to get jailed etc.. This Story is sooo long and complicated..

I mean this stuff movies are made of.. Insiders, Big Companies, corruption, murder etc..

reply to post by DangerDeath



I dont know if they "look forward to it" as much as they "dont let the fear of it influence their choices." While they do acknowledge that it is a freedom from a body that binds them to certain limiting illusions, they also have human attachments to other people, and are not jumping for joy at leaving them.

The historical Socrates did make an argument for his life, but he refused to run or compromise his values or the truth as he saw it in any way to avoid it.

Not trying to nit pick, but making someone sound almost joyous at the thought of death sort of diminishes their valor and bravery. It gives the average person an excuse not to follow their example. "Well they wanted to die, I personally, want to live." They wanted to live too. They just felt that a life lived in fear mode, always compromising your truth simply to save your butt, was not really living. Only someone who can accept their death with equanimity can truly be said to be alive.

Sorry. Love the Greeks.

It certainly seems to me this is another sign of the times. The broad economic forces are getting ready to make a move, and they want the masses as uninformed and apathetic as possible. Killing off the intelligentsia is something that usually happens before a coup.

We live in dangerous times, friends.

My prayers and good wishes to his widow and family. I hope the knowledge that he lived like a true philosopher makes his death easier to bear.

reply to post by Aliensun


The authorities do seem very quick in supplying quite strong evidence linking the shooting to left-wing terrorists.

What possible motive did they have though?

Something is very amiss.