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Originally posted by undo
this guy explains who the serpent was, and why it's important we understand the language involved in the story. he tries to explain that the word for serpent there is nachash, and that the text is telling you that the nachash wasn't a snake.
the nachash and his seed, some explanatory notes on why the serpent in genesis 3 wasn't a serpent
Michael S. Heiser, PhD
xr.com...
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by evil incarnate
hey i know the feeling. i am, if nothing else, extremely understanding about other people's situations, particularly where it comes to people harrassing you within your own peer or family group, over your life choices. i was just attempting to further elucidate my original statement here. asking people to explain why they believe the current translation of the text is the perfect word of god, is not going to glean you answers that will actually answer your big underlying question,
other than what you already know and don't agree with in the first place. if you want to wrap your head around it, consider that many people know almost nothing about the old testament.
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by evil incarnate
your questions are all old testament. i mean, how's a person going to answer your questions about old testament beliefs if they can only do so without actually referencing the old testament?
listen, every response i've made in your thread has been to answer either your questions or someone else's. you're prejudicing the answers by requiring fundies only answer using material that you already know doesn't make sense in its current incarnation. the big question is then: do you want answers or not?
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by evil incarnate
well fine, but if you don't really want the answers to begin with (cause you don't believe anything they say from the get go, not even those who have went the extra mile and given you original translations, scholarly articles, references outside the christian mainstream, and etc) wouldn't this thread be more of an example of taking a mistake in old science (they have made mistakes in the past) and asking you to explain why you believe in science?
yes, mr. op, can you explain why you believe in spontaneous generation, oh and please do so using only the articles that originally argued in its favor. ty. and can you explain how you, as a science afficiando, believe this is true in light of the evidence against it ?
being fundie myself, when i read your question, i addressed it to myself and my position. maybe the problem is here that not all fundies look alike but will still see you asking THEM the question (which i did).
Originally posted by undo
bye and i will avoid responding in your future threads, if any. start another one and i'll pretend its not there.
Originally posted by css1981
To me the bible is also a beautifull book with a lot of beautifull stories inside... But I guess I am reading it from a different side of view..
Originally posted by LoneExplorer
What a crap thread. Hardly anything new though !
Anything gained from it ? NO, because the questions were stacked from the outset.
Atheists don't want answers. They are hostile and belittling
All they want to do is tell you that you are wrong.
I wonder if ATS stands for Atheist Training Services?
They seem to be killing this place.
Originally posted by undo
do you want me to comment in your threads or not? cause next time may not look any different than this time and this time hasn't been a real positive point in my day.
perhaps you are getting your psychological evaluations from a slanted source.
Any time there is a really good discussion about the logistics of the bible fairy tales, they go nowhere
If any fundamentalist Christians out there have some answers, that would be just dandy
God said "Let us make man in our image."Apparently he was NOT alone.
1. In the beginning was the WORD,
and The Word was with GOD,
and The Word was G O D.
2. He was in the beginning with God.
3. All things were made through Him
and without Him nothing was made
that was made.
4. In Him was LIFE,
and the Life was the LIGHT of Men.
Originally posted by undo
i jumped on that cause i had geological evidence to provide, proving that there was indeed a flood, in just about the right time frame, however, i also knew that the english translation had added words that made certain parts of the story different than originally worded, such as saying every or all, when neither word was in the original verse.
add to that the interpretation and teaching that there were 2 of every animal on the planet, on the ark, which is not what the text says, as i have shown in the thread.
you also said:
If any fundamentalist Christians out there have some answers, that would be just dandy
you can see that i was indeed addressing not only your first statement and but also your first request, in your op. i also provided evidence from science, as is indicated by the videos of the 2 geologists from oxford.
anyway, i don't know how you could construe that i didn't answer your op at all.