Reputed neo-Nazi leading patrols in Ariz.

Originally posted by ChrisF231
The only rule for defending the border is this: if they armed or smuggling drugs then put some lead in them, if they are unarmed then detain them and turn them over to the US Border Patrol.

How do you know if someone is smuggling drugs or armed?

Originally posted by ModernAcademia


You think a Race War is not brewing?
Expect this group to get alot of media attention, and as well as the New Black Panther Party.

The media will soon be on overdrive to start a race war, that's what it looks like.

I agree.

This racial divide seems completely engineered and groups are using Obama as a racial catalyst for further division. It's no surprise that this New Black Panther voter intimidation claim is being jockeyed into the publics face as proof that Obama hates Whites and supports a racist group that is intent on intimidating voters.

As I pointed out here not only was it a Bush DOJ that downgraded the claim from criminal to civil but that not one voter even came forward and complained of any sort of intimidation.

Also the Minutemen were accused of an even more extreme case of voter intimidation involving firearms and that case too was dropped.

No alarm bells or outrage from that.

Still, this has somehow become a MAJOR issue thanks to a Conservative activists, his unsubstantiated claims, and Fox News. I am sure it is driving up membership for both sides as they play the "it's them against us" game.

Now we have people willing to support Neo-Nazis as U.S. Heroes.

I swear the elites are laughing their Armani covered butts off.

- Lee

I've just checked and so far the neonazi in the WH is not in arizona.
maybe if someone left some golfballs or basketballs along the border dear leader would take the time out of his busy vacation schedule and check out the border. Notice he doesnt actually go there to the border? All he would do is wave in the wets and cuss out the US border guards.

Originally posted by Danbones
If there is a NEO NAZI involved it WILL BE an FBI or alphabet FED
just watch and see how it goes

Or maybe he is just a Neo-Nazi.
They are a fairly large organization and I am sure they all aren't secret FBI agents.

- Lee

How do you know if someone is smuggling drugs or armed?

How do you know if someone is armed? Gee well, let's see here ... could it be that IF THEY ARE CARRYING A GUN??????

As for drugs, the telltale sign is a convoy of people in backpacks being herded through the desert by people with AK-47s and SKS rifles.

Originally posted by mordant1
All he would do is wave in the wets and cuss out the US border guards.

I am assuming you are calling the mexicans...WETBACKS. Hmpf...small little white man...using names to sound tough...gotta love online tough guys.....

Originally posted by ChrisF231

How do you know if someone is smuggling drugs or armed?

How do you know if someone is armed? Gee well, let's see here ... could it be that IF THEY ARE CARRYING A GUN??????

So everyone carries a gun on top of their head with a neon sign pointing it out now? When did this happen?

As for drugs, the telltale sign is a convoy of people in backpacks being herded through the desert by people with AK-47s and SKS rifles.

A telltale sign is not proof enough to shoot with deadly force, is it?

Why do gun owners sound so bloodthirsty? Sounds like they are just looking for any reason to shoot. All you people saying they should shoot people coming into this country illegally....big price for such a small crime I say.

Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by slavenomore4u
This is a ploy by the Obama white house and the MSM to try to demonise the Heros that have traveled to AZ to defend our nation.
They are again pulling out the race card and showing it around.

Keep repeating this mantra: White people bad, Brown people good.
And you to will fall for this nonsense.

So your heroes are a group of neo-nazis who thinks that only white heterosexual men and women that are not jewish are the only ones who are supposed to be U.S. citizens?

they are not heroes because of what they think,

they are heroes because of what they are doing.

this is a perfect example of "actions speak louder than words".

i dont care if hes an islamic reptilian left wing zionist Luciferian disinfoagent.

if hes protecting his nations border from narco-insurgents then good for him.

Originally posted by kerazeesicko

Originally posted by mordant1
All he would do is wave in the wets and cuss out the US border guards.

I am assuming you are calling the mexicans...WETBACKS. Hmpf...small little white man...using names to sound tough...gotta love online tough guys..

...

No I am calling INVADERS wets. Mexicans that stay home are mexicans. What do you call those breaking into your home?
Apparently my color is an issue to you? I'm sure that make ME the racist in your mind.
Want my address?
nazi, ummm is one ordinary person protecting his home be a nazi or is a real nazi one that leads and conspires for the integration of gov't and business to govern for it's own benefit ignoring the public and consititution? That my racist friend is the definition of fascism/nazism. A nazi is not someone in a smart uniform, it is a political operative subverting his mandate to manage for the publics benefit. Can YOU provide an example of the BIGGEST player in forming a self serving confederation of govt with business to oppress and repress the public?
and THAT my friends is what a nazi is, not someone trying to maintain the integrity of his home by keeping looters out.

[edit on 17-7-2010 by mordant1]

[edit on 17-7-2010 by mordant1]

The Feds use the term
Operation Wetback was a 1954 operation by the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) to remove about one million illegal immigrants from the southwestern United States, focusing on Mexican nationals

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by LurkerMan

Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by slavenomore4u
This is a ploy by the Obama white house and the MSM to try to demonise the Heros that have traveled to AZ to defend our nation.
They are again pulling out the race card and showing it around.

Keep repeating this mantra: White people bad, Brown people good.
And you to will fall for this nonsense.

So your heroes are a group of neo-nazis who thinks that only white heterosexual men and women that are not jewish are the only ones who are supposed to be U.S. citizens?

they are not heroes because of what they think,

they are heroes because of what they are doing.

this is a perfect example of "actions speak louder than words".

Until a few of them shoot a few mexicans that weren't illegal.
Then the mexican uproar comes.

It's all over the net that Obama is reputed to have said he won't close the border 'till he gets his (Bush's) amnesty.
The suit against Arizona in the face of the the stated intent to pass a comprehensive Amnesty by hook or by crook makes whether or not he said those exact words relatively unimportant...

Actions speak loudly enough...and since this is amnesty is bipartisan (it has been tried recently under Bush), and was quashed by a phone in campaign...it can't be said to be about getting votes.

It is about SPP, as was Nafta, and GATT, NWO agenda etc.

Kyl: Obama told me he won’t secure the border until Congress agrees to amnesty

hotair.com...

Director of Government Relations, Rosemary Jenks, learned of an Amnesty plan being discussed behind closed doors that includes the abuse of executive actions. The news was made public on Tuesday when Sen. Chuck Grassley drafted a letter signed by seven other Senators, asking the White House for answers.
So what exactly is being discussed behind closed doors by the Democratic Leadership?
Since Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi can't secure enough votes in Congress to pass a mass Amnesty bill this year, the Obama Administration is thinking of using two executive actions to offer an Amnesty to the nation's estimated 11-18 million illegal aliens

austin.craigslist.org...

[edit on 17-7-2010 by Danbones]

Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by LurkerMan

Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by slavenomore4u
This is a ploy by the Obama white house and the MSM to try to demonise the Heros that have traveled to AZ to defend our nation.
They are again pulling out the race card and showing it around.

Keep repeating this mantra: White people bad, Brown people good.
And you to will fall for this nonsense.

So your heroes are a group of neo-nazis who thinks that only white heterosexual men and women that are not jewish are the only ones who are supposed to be U.S. citizens?

they are not heroes because of what they think,

they are heroes because of what they are doing.

this is a perfect example of "actions speak louder than words".

Until a few of them shoot a few mexicans that weren't illegal.
Then the mexican uproar comes.

Has that happened? I mean an event that wasnt criminal in nature? One that wasnt part of a program of harrassment of those charged to maintain the legitimate interests of every nation, ie maintianing the integrity of their border?
What a stupid assumption to claim a privilege to invade because somehow something bad MAY possibly or eventually happen in an attempt to stop it? That could happen with anything, to consider that logic is laughable. If nobody was violating the border, there would be no invasion and no tension.
Every contry claims the right to maintain their boundaries and allow in or keep out those that are not wanted.

"Just Another Day" ...Alleged Neo-Nazi blog

This is very important. These 11 illegal aliens asked for water. We DID NOT capture them and hold them at gunpoint. The firearms were for our protection as well as theirs. We operate within the law. There are those that would love to twist this into something completely different. The Border Patrol agents also questioned these subjects as to how they came to being in our custody. No Harm. No Foul. No crime was committed on our part.

During the time we were waiting for the Border Patrol to respond, we actually talked to some of these men and they were thankful that we arrived when we did. They also informed us that they had not eaten in two days. As a result, we will also be bringing extra food as well as water on our patrols. These resources come from a few donations, but mostly right out of our pockets.

How would public opinion change if it became commonly known that so called Neo-Nazi groups were watering and feeding tired and hungry illegal aliens before turning them over to the Border Patrol?

If we didn’t come along, these men could have easily died out there. The way I see it, it’s better to be a deported illegal alien than a dead one...

For those of you that call us racists or vigilantes, you can add another name to that list. That name is “Humanitarian”. When was the last time one of you liberal journalists or keyboard commandos offered up his/her own water to someone he/she particularly didn’t like?

Well... I guess they put alot of the bias and opinion in perspective here, didn't they? It's rather odd that people condemn a group of American Citizens who exercise thier right to believe in and practice a lifestyle that excludes others because of race. Communities like the black Community propogate groups who practice this type of lifestyle as well. These groups however go far above anf beyond the 'criminality" they accuse the 'White Devil' of - BY TAKING TO THE STREETS WITH BULL HORNS AND LOUD SPEAKERS, SHOUTING RACIAL SLURS AND HATRED OUT PUBLICLY AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE, EVEN TELLING THE PUBLIC THAT WHITE PEOPLE MUST DIE, AND THAT THEY MUST BE KILLED, ALONG WITH THIER BABIES!!!... And then are catered to by White People - allowing them to form SEGRAGATIONALIST ORGANIZATIONS such as the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION for the ADVANCEMENT of COLORED PEOPLE, BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION, BLACK POLITICAL CUACUS, BLACK THIS, BLACK THAT. BLACK DOLLARS, BLACK CHURCHES (I didn't know God was a racist...), BLACK HOLIDAYS (KWANZA - OH BOY... BLACK SANTA!!), and even go so far as to color the Messiah Jesus Christ Black... (I wasn't aware that God condoned falshoods...).

WOW. These agendas, such as this post on White Racism, Fail! MISERABLY.

I guess that if folks are going to condemn these "Neo Nazis" (ACTUALLY, more like White Segragationalists...) they'll have to condemn the Native Americans that are part of their contingantcy too, right?

one of our “Neo-Nazis” is an American Indian

All in all... the labeling of the white man is again just another RACIST TACTIC used by (usually) the BLACK or HISPANIC RACIST COMMUNITIES that seek to take control and power from "the white devil" and claim it for themselves.

Lies, Propaganda, and RACIST Intentions of Indigenous peoples against the "White Demon" never cease to amaze me regarding these same indigenous people's true agenda's for the claims that they make and agendas that they enact against White People...

Is it because, unlike a majority of White People, they are not capable of ingenius intellect, and must insult the intelligence of another by propogating roles of VICTIMISM for the sole purpose of exploiting and extorting a gain from them? Obviously... a role that has played itself to fruition since the inception of freedom within the minds of these characters.

I'll tell you what. All you Black Panthers and Sureno or Norteno Gang Bangers, You Yakuza Warriors, Triad members... All you Jewish Defense League bigmouths..

I want to see YOU perform your AMERICAN DUTY as a member entitled to belong to a militia Constitutionally, and get your asses down to the border with your choice of fire arm, and help keep America safe! Show these 'White Devils' you can be just as patriotic and free as them!

Otherwise.... SHUT YA DAM TRAP! BIGMOUTH LIL SISSIES... ==

I'm not a Neo Nazi, nor do I believe in FASCISM by any means.... I however do believe in a coupling with my own Race, to preserve the continuity of Racial Diversity amongst mankind.

That is about as far as my 'racist' belief goes. I'll share a meal with my racial 'brothas from anotha motha', conversate intellectually with them, share ideas with them, investigate new realities and possibilities with them, no matter who they are, or race they belong to. I'll even put my back up against thiers, with my Glock 45 watching thier back as theirs watches mine.

WE ARE AMEIRICANS people....

AMERICANS!

That should always prove first and foremost in the minds of the American Peoples... should and does however represent a struggle against bias, fear, anger, and hatred. If a person however is intelligent enough to understand what it is to actually exist as what they were created to be, these petty issues really never prevent them from performing admirably however!

DENY IG'NANCE F00 ! ==


[edit on 7/17/2010 by Megiddodiddo]

[edit on 7/17/2010 by Megiddodiddo]

Originally posted by mordant1

Has that happened? I mean an event that wasnt criminal in nature? One that wasnt part of a program of harrassment of those charged to maintain the legitimate interests of every nation, ie maintianing the integrity of their border?
What a stupid assumption to claim a privilege to invade because somehow something bad MAY possibly or eventually happen in an attempt to stop it? That could happen with anything, to consider that logic is laughable. If nobody was violating the border, there would be no invasion and no tension.
Every contry claims the right to maintain their boundaries and allow in or keep out those that are not wanted.

Claim a privilege to invade?
What are you talking about?
I'm against illegal immigration, I'm just not for using neo nazis to guard the borders.
I'm talking about allowing white supremicists to run around our borders with guns, which WILL inevitably cause a mexican uproar.
I'm amazed at how trusting you can be of neo nazis.
Hell, send in the regular militias, just don't expect neo nazis to play fairly the entire time.

[edit on 17-7-2010 by hippomchippo]

Originally posted by LurkerMan
i dont care if hes an islamic reptilian left wing zionist Luciferian disinfoagent.

if hes protecting his nations border from narco-insurgents then good for him.

This isn't Batman and Robin, it's Neo-Nazis!

You know I watched a movie with my nephew last night
It's called Batman - Under The Red Hood
Just came out this week



It carries a good message about fighting crime while being unbias.

Seriously, if you don't care who is leading the movement then my god.... there goes the movement!!!!!!

reply to post by Danbones


It's all about payoffs to lawyers, an army of them in every state generating unending and initially pointless legal maneuvering based on perverse, novel interpretation of what used to be obvious law based upon common sense, and all paid for by the fools who send them their money in the vain hope it will be used wisely.
Imagine the life expectancy of a country suing itself over securing its borders. This has got to be the first time in history of hationhood that the obvious authority refuses to do it's duty and is activly preventing the next authority in line with the responsibility from acting. There is no need for more evidence that the country is being pushed off a cliff intentionally by its leaders. The only winners being those with billable hours that the public is obliged even in their ignorance or dissatisfaction, with paying

I mean Come On!
It is obvious that the bipartisan handling of events on the border is in NO WAY to the benefit of the LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZEN.
ZERO TOLERANCE MY A@@!

Two Texas Border Patrol agents convicted of shooting a Mexican drug runner in the backside while on duty turned themselves in to U.S. Marshals Wednesday.

There's still no word on whether President Bush will grant them a pardon.

Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean began serving 11- and 12-year prison sentences, respectively, for the February 2005 non-fatal shooting of Osvaldo Aldrete Davila.

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"This ruling by Judge Cardone is the most disgraceful act that I have ever heard of in the history of our great nation and both she and the prosecutors should be ashamed of themselves for taking the word of a drug smuggler, caught in the act, while ignoring the facts," Friends of the Border Patrol Chairman Andy Ramirez wrote in a statement. "Evidence that would have severely damaged the credibility of the known drug smuggler, and exonerated Compean & Ramos was sealed and suppressed and the attorneys were prevented from mounting a proper defense."

Ramirez said El Paso Border Patrol chiefs Robert Gilbert and Luis Barker and Robert Gilbert have hung their agents out to dry.

"I must remind the public that narcotic traffickers and human smugglers laugh at law enforcement as they know that the Johnny Sutton's of DOJ will not prosecute them, and instead will prosecute officers who do their job and keep that poison off our streets and out of our schools, parks, and neighborhoods," Ramirez wrote.

www.foxnews.com...