Israel declares Palestinian land a firing zone!

reply to post by MY2Commoncentsworth

Wow. Genocide is your solution?

You are really sick ooz........ Maybe you should quit drinking?

Wait, wait, wait, wait, let me get this straight, you think the Palestinians are the problem lol

hahahahahahahaha

Must be the Christian mentality lol or maybe you have been watching too much pedophilia photos like you posted in the other thread lol. Is it the prophecy?

Palestinians are the ones getting mass murdered, terrorized, movement restricted, harassed, humiliated, blockaded, continually kicked out and Jewish settlements created over their homes, and you think Palestinians are the problem.

hahahahahahahahaha

And the solution he suggests, is that all Palestinians should run, before they all get killed. As you can see by the choosing of Hamas, that Palestinians have already chosen their path, it is not my decision. They want to fight against terrorism and oppression, backed by you Christians, I bet Jesus didn't want you to fulfill that prophecy through the means of Terrorism, Destruction, Humiliation etc.

Don't you think the Solution should require the European Jews to go back to Europe since there is no prosecution against them anymore?

This is based on your Christian logic:

"So your solution is Genocide? That the Zionist regime should continue its oppressive and terrorism against Palestinian which would cause another Genocide against Jews (in the future), this time by the whole world?"

reply to post by dubiousone

Originally posted by dubiousone

Try firing on more than one neuron for once and perhaps you'll grasp what the posts you're responding to said.

By the way, nice hate filled avatar you got there. Way to show your colors.

Do you wear white sheets at night, a pointy head covering, and attend cross burnings? Probably not, but it's an apt comparison given your avatar and everything you've written on this thread.

What's wrong with my avatar? I think that I look rather sheik...... Is it my bathrobe that is offensive to you? Or my sandals perhaps? I am not clean shaven but my beard and mustache are trimmed and well manicured.

My turban fits well and is not going to explode any time soon........I hope.

So what is it about me that has offended you so much that you would make an accusation of racism?

Perhaps if you had a single neutron left to fire you might begin to think in a rational manner....probably not.

And what have I stated on this thread that gets you so riled up.

I simply proposed what would appear to be a simple solution to a very complicated problem.

It is quite obvious that your blind hatred, racism, and anti-Semitism is more important to you than seeing the suffering of so many people come to an end.

Incredible.

[edit on 18-7-2010 by MY2Commoncentsworth]

reply to post by MY2Commoncentsworth


He just elaborated that he now knows your true colors, I knew it for couple of days now

I mean who else posts pedophilia pictures, I still don't know where you get it from.

Isn't pedophilia pictures banned in the US? Like if you get caught with them you could get arrested?

reply to post by oozyism

Originally posted by oozyism

He just elaborated that he now knows your true colors, I knew it for couple of days now

I mean who else posts pedophilia pictures, I still don't know where you get it from.

Isn't pedophilia pictures banned in the US? Like if you get caught with them you could get arrested?

I suppose that you are referring to the cartoon caractures of your Prophet Mohammad and his 6 year old wife Aisha.

Yes, sexual pictures of children are banned in the US. Is that why you live in New Zealand?

reply to post by MY2Commoncentsworth


It is the same here, those pictures might hold more value to the government than you think.

Maybe those pictures are there to attract Pedophiles, that being said, you might already have a profile > don't look at any kid in the wrong way, you might get arrested

Are you still supporting the Zionist terrorism used to remove Palestinians off their land? You forgot to reply to my post.

reply to post by NeutronAvenger


Balls?

You arse.

The balls to murder innocents isn't 'balls' you freak! It's proof of cowardice in the extreme, and arrogant and contemptuous disregard for the rules of law.

The 'state' is right...it's in a bloody state all right.

They are murdering, manipulative, evil, thieving, lying criminals, and those that support them, are no better.

reply to post by shapeshiftress


What?

Are you seriously trying to justify barbarism from Israel because they have a small country?

You're kidding right? Never heard of population control, immigration policies?

If the land is small, so should the population be.

It's not an excuse to kill your neighbours and steal what is theirs, because you are short on space!

Open your eyes, what do you think the US or any population would do if they were invaded and treated barbarically? Systematically pillaged and brutalized people are going to fight back, even if it is with second rate fireworks and rocks and stones against fighter jets and tanks.

You call them terrorists, i call them people who are fighting for their lives against abject tyranny and oppression, and are pitifully trying to exercise their basic human rights to live and provide for their children in the face of a callous and powerful army intent on their genocide.

Terrorists...yeah, right.

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


This land was Israeli land thousands of years before the so called Palestinians ever existed! The palestinians lineage can be traced historically be traced back to countries surroundind Israel so there is plenty of good muslim land there why dont they Piss off back they would then be surely happy among there own kind in stead of trying to sell the world a lie which they can never prove historically or scientifically!!!

reply to post by spikey


The palestinians are Terrorists trying to steal a land that has never Historically or scientifically belonged to them!! Prove me wrong friend!!

reply to post by oozyism


Which countries apart from the usual muslim culprits would realistically take on Israel in a worldwide conflict!!! It really is a wet dream for guys like you too think the whole world would decide to wipe Israel off the map.You forgot Israel has more in common with a great many countries world wide than most ARAB AND Muslim states stuck in a medeval timewarp!!!

reply to post by EnkiCarbone

An interesting thought. I shall have to look into this more.

reply to post by pthena

Thank you for that.Most enlightening - even though one cannot guarantee it's exactness - but it does indicate a penchant by the Jews for this type of behaviour.

reply to post by coolieno99

Excellent response. I was not aware of that.

reply to post by FearNoEvil

Regrettably I have to agree with you there. Time the UN put it's teeth in instead of leaving them in the glass.

reply to post by Danbones

Dan, whilst not particularly relevant to this thread I wholeheartedly agree with you. DU is a topic I am researching at present.

reply to post by oozyism

I am aware of your religious beliefs but permit me to say 'Amen' to that.

reply to post by coolieno99

Thank you. I was not aware of the Saudi and Egyptian intake.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

its funny how there is one poster called tondeaf and one person called hear no evil arguing on this thread lol

Best yet this morning!

reply to post by Magic Bullet

This land was Israeli land thousands of years before the so called Palestinians ever existed! The Palestinians lineage can be traced historically be traced back to countries surrounding Israel

Do I once again have to remind you that anything that has transpired before the 1967 war is of no relevance to this thread?

The Israelites drove out the Canaanites to gain their land but we really cannot be going so far back into history to make territorial claims otherwise the Native Americans might have a claim to most of the USA and Canada, except of course that originally they were not indigenous either. Go and read up on the demographics of this area before you post incorrect nonsense. I would also remind you that the original 'Jews' came from 'Judea' and not Israel.

Piss off back they would then be surely happy among there own kind in stead of trying to sell the world a lie which they can never prove historically or scientifically!!!

I would suggest that before you start quoting science, by which I assume you means genetics, you take some time to research the genetic make up of the Jewish peoples. The greater bulk of the Jews are NOT of Semitic descent (the Ashkenazim et al). I suspect, although I do not have the information to hand at present, that the truest Jewish people in terms of bloodlines are in fact the Jews of Iran who have lived there for over 3000 years.

I believe that in 1990 the Sephardic Jews (Spain) comprised 25% of the world's Jewry and apparently 60% of Israel's population but I need to so some research on that and on the origins of the Sephardic Jews.

I will go back and look at my notes and will come back and answer your points.

Originally posted by NeutronAvenger
Here's what I have to say...

Long Live Israel!

At least they have balls unlike the rest of the world!

Balls to what? It doesnt really take balls to kill unarmed civilians with white phosphorus or to fight a man armed with a ww2 rifle using an AH-64D Apache Longbow... takes no balls when you have the best technology in the world to fight people in the verge of extreme poverty.

I just hope someday Israel gets the backlash of its policies. Maybe those poor people have friends... I hope they have and show Israel they CAN'T go around doing whatever they please.

The "rest of the world" as you call it doesnt like Israel all that much... most people would get rid of israel for what they keep doing to their neighbors but its not politically correct - Still Israel has no friends and the one friend they had they use it, and sacrifice it like just another mean to an end...

I mean what does Israel want really? To be some kind of martyr when the world finally loses its "correctness" and its tolerance and wipes the country off the face of the planet for a greater good?

The day will come that israel will not walk away unpunished and untouched.

reply to post by oozyism

Originally posted by oozyism

It is the same here, those pictures might hold more value to the government than you think.

Maybe those pictures are there to attract Pedophiles, that being said, you might already have a profile > don't look at any kid in the wrong way, you might get arrested

Are you still supporting the Zionist terrorism used to remove Palestinians off their land? You forgot to reply to my post.

You know ooz, posters who advocate genocide as a solution to problems that the world has to deal with today might hold more value to the Government than you realize. Do you think that the CIA might have a file on you?

I posted those cartoons to illustrate the folly of of Radical Islamic Extremism. As far as attracting pedophiles, I do not know. But they certainly have attracted you!

And I do not support any kind of terrorism. And I would like to see a peaceful solution to the crisis in the Middle East, not the genocide that has been proposed by you.

Israel = ANTISEMITIC

why anyone yet didnt catch that up ....

the jewish people who support recent Israeli actions
are 100% antisemitic people themself
people who critics Israel actions ... cant be labelled antisemitic

we critics them because WE HOPE their regime will change... will have better internal and foreign policies...and a better centered moral good army the IDF is not a army today its a barbaric extremist milice with guns
IDF = I Do Firemygunsallthetime
these is difference between people who accept critics and those who dont .... those who dont will never change .. they will stay stubborn
those who accept critics will change for THE BETTER
it will learn from it.... but they still havent learn anything
they have not evolve ... on the contrary

i always see hope everywhere ... if one day israel let the critics in and START to listen to good advices then it will change everything...
if the 3/4 of israeli are supporting the IDF actions like in Gaza or Lebanon or with the flotilla raid massacre ... then
they are antisemitic themself because they make israel go into a De-Evolution path.... like going far away from the ascension itself
they have centered they moral on the Dark lord itself
they have all his qualities... none missing

we know now why Israelis who are in favor of those hatred policy are antisemitic themself....
i knew some good jewish people who are like me on this issue
very good people ... so thats why we cant go general on them
many nationality and region have their bad people with bad choice of judgment and immoral values.
there is no war between people ... the war itself is named
GOOD VS EVIL




[edit on 7/18/2010 by Ben81]

reply to post by Ben81


Ben81
Sorry that I didn’t notice your post.
Semtic refers to a person who descended from Shem. That includes Arabs, Jews, and a few other groups, but now is used primarily for the Jews.

Zionism, the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel.

Hitler was a very political creature. He wanted to get the Jews out of Germany. Hitler also needed to stimulate Germany's depressed export economy. He solved both problems by allowing each Jew who indicated a willingness to emigrate to Palestine the opportunity to take along a fixed portion of assets in the form of German goods. They spent their money and left. Everyone was happy. The SS oversaw the establishment of occupational retraining centers. Jews were encouraged to spend money and LEAVE. Voluntary emigration established by the Ha'avara Agreement became obsolete in 1938 when all Jewish capital was confiscated. Germany then did an about face and knowing the anti-Semitic policies of the Hitler regime would make a Jewish state a natural enemy of the Reich began its Final solution. www.ihr.org...

Hitler was a friend of the Jews. During 1942, in addition to Auschwitz, five other camps were designated as extermination camps (Vernichtungslager) for the carrying out of the Reinhard plan. (The Reinhard plan was the code name given to the Nazi plan to murder Polish Jews, and marked the most deadly phase of the Holocaust, the use of extermination camps.) At extermination camps with gas chambers all the prisoners arrived by train. Sometimes entire trainloads were sent straight to the gas chambers, but usually the camp doctor on duty subjected individuals to selections, where a small percentage were deemed fit to work in the slave labor camps.

reply to post by shapeshiftress


i dont know why but .. while reading your reply
there is a theory that just flashed in my head.... cant really tell if its true or not ... but wouldnt surprise me
that a long "evil" domination plan was started near the starts of the 20th century
did hitler really made a pact with some jews ... ?
gas all the others who dont agree or all the good jews
thats why we cant say that the holocaust never happened

i have read somewhere that Hitler was part of some jewish extremist settlers
that one day will take by force Jerusalem the most important holy city in the world.... and the arabs living there would have to move or die ...

we have to ask ourself why ... Hitler would plan all this with the most extremist jews ???? and eradicate the others groups that dont agree
no choice now to gas them if they say no !! .... after they knew the real plan ...
its a theory, a speculation ... cannot be proven .. only questionned
anybody have the rights to question anything that have doubted issues on its case

did jerusalem... because of its many holy stories have something to do with 2012 ????
the plan would be to put the extremist jew to populate the ground nobody else ... before 2012 ?
because they think if they are on the promise land ... God or something else would pick them to have great powers and knowledge ???

i dont know why but i can see things..... its like putting in order a puzzle to know whats the surprise picture behind it ...
plans are like that .. especially the long running ones

what do you think of this conspiracy/theory ?
i have linked all the interrogations doths from both side
this theory would answer many ?????????????

[edit on 7/18/2010 by Ben81]

[edit on 7/18/2010 by Ben81]

reply to post by oozyism


He's just a troll posting here to waste web space with stupidity. Why keep feeding him? If you stop feeding him he'll likely sink back to bottom out of sight and go back to feeding on the detritous found there.

reply to post by shapeshiftress and post by Ben81

www.ihr.org...

Hitler was a friend of the Jews. During 1942, in addition to Auschwitz, five other camps were designated as extermination camps (Vernichtungslager) for the carrying out of the Reinhard plan. (The Reinhard plan was the code name given to the Nazi plan to murder Polish Jews, and marked the most deadly phase of the Holocaust, the use of extermination camps.) At extermination camps with gas chambers all the prisoners arrived by train. Sometimes entire trainloads were sent straight to the gas chambers, but usually the camp doctor on duty subjected individuals to selections, where a small percentage were deemed fit to work in the slave labor camps.

I read the linked piece and it does tend to bring some facts together. Hitler promoting Zionism at the expense of liberal and assimilationist Jews.

The European Jews seem to be of eastern European decent going back well more than 10 generations, whether that entitles them to a claim to ancient Israelite land is debatable, it does certainly entitle them to call themselves Jews as members of a pseudo tribe which for religious and cultural purposes serves as a substitute for actual Israelite decent.

we have to ask ourself why ... Hitler would plan all this with the most extremist jews ???? and eradicate the others groups that dont agree
no choice now to gas them if they say no !! .... after they knew the real plan ...
its a theory, a speculation ... cannot be proven .. only questionned
anybody have the rights to question anything that have doubted issues on its case

If there is any ongoing conspiracy, it would be the same or similar to what the pre-war Germans had in mind, namely, convince Jews to move to Palestine, convince enough people through propaganda that only a Zionist Jew is a true Jew and all others are bogus, eliminated if not "turned around".

There are many legitimate reasons for Jews not to move to Palestine. Some Orthodox Jews would say God is the one to determine such a thing in His time and judgment, and there is no reason to consider the decrees and backroom deals of politicians to be of any import in the matter. Some others may say,

"My mother was eastern European, and my father was an invading Mongolian warrior. Rather than bend to the pressure of Christian and Muslim proselytizers, they chose Judaism. For 60 generations we've called ourselves Jews. A move to the ancient land of Jacob would be a new thing and not a restored thing. Such a new thing I will await the Messiah for. When the 12 tribes of the House of Jacob are restored, then I will find which of the tribes I am adopted into. There is nothing about the current State of Israel I find particularly Messianic except maybe a delusional sort of Messiahism."

The conspiracy then would be to marginalize non-Zionists. One of the major sources of this propaganda is the growing political power of Christian Dispensationalism which now is about 40% of American Christianity, not an inconsiderable group. Also the American-Jewish community serves its purpose as a demographic for political purposes, (demographic groups are counted on to favor certain policies whether the individual members do or not). The lobbies do the only speaking that is heard. There are two lobbies I know of AIPAC and J street, both Zionist. One is Palestinian eliminationist and the other favors two viable states as per UN mandate. As far as I know their is no anti-Zionist Jewish lobby in the US that is listened to by policy makers.



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reply to post by lee anoma

Hello lee,

Originally posted by lee anoma
You're trying to pull a "Helen Thomas" here, right?

If she was an antisemite what does that make you?

You don't really believe that Helen is an anti-Semite do you?

Originally posted by lee anoma
That the whole area belongs to Israel and that they should "get the hell out of Israel and go live in Egypt, Iraq, or Saudi Arabia"?

FYI: They were doing just fine living alongside Jews before Israel was forcefully established why the heck should they be absorbed out of the area entirely?

UN Resolution 181, defined the outline of a settlement in Palestine creating both a Jewish and a Palestinian homeland. The 1947 UN Partition divided the area into three entities: a Jewish state, an Arab state, and an international zone around Jerusalem.

At midnight on May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed the new State of Israel. On that same date the United States, in the person of President Truman, recognized the provisional Jewish government as de facto authority of the new Jewish state (de jure recognition was extended on January 31). The U.S. delegates to the U.N. and top ranking State Department officials were angered that Truman released his recognition statement to the press without notifying them first. On May 15, 1948, the Arab states issued their response statement and Arab armies invaded Israel and the first Arab-Israeli war began.

www.trumanlibrary.org...

Originally posted by lee anoma
I mean clearly it hasn't occurred to you that people have made this place their HOME. They shouldn't have to be "absorbed" anywhere because some bully wants their area of the playground.

Even kids on a playground have enough common sense to stay away from the bully....lest they get their butts kicked. I know I did when I was a kid.

Originally posted by lee anoma
If Mexico started trying to take over Arizona would you suggest the other States just absorb the citizens if they care, or tell Mexico to get out of your Country and stop stealing land?

Duh?..... Mexico is trying to take over the state of Arizona. They are still upset over the Gadsden Purchase.


www.gadsdenpurchase.com...

Originally posted by lee anoma
Meanwhile in between those "peaceful" times when there are no rocket attacks, Israel is bulldozing homes, grabbing land, and making many Palestinians homeless, imprisoned or simply dead.

Among other more insidious things.
This is nothing new at all, sadly.

The wicked leaders of Israel cry foul over rocket attacks as an excuse to use heavy-handed tactics to continue to punish those starving in the Gaza strip when they know full well what is spawning those all but useless rocket attacks.

Their own cruel and wicked behavior.

I don't know about you, but I would be gripped with fear and terror if a missile were to land in my quiet little neighborhood.......especially if it looked like the one depicted in your avatar.......and especially if I saw it descending towards me.

I find it hard to believe that an outspoken person like yourself would not be leading the charge, (down at your local neighborhood association ), to retaliate tenfold against the perpetrators.

Peace.

[edit on 18-7-2010 by MY2Commoncentsworth]

reply to post by MY2Commoncentsworth

Duh?..... Mexico is trying to take over the state of Arizona. They are still upset over the Gadsden Purchase.

You are a coward, if the world was filled with cowards (who don't stand up for their rights) there would be holocausts over and over again.

We don't support holocaust, we fight bullies, I did.