The infamous Turkey UFO a yacht?

reply to post by adigregorio


Now you and Phage are talking about two completely different things. One is saying from the inside of the bridge and the other is saying the outer side of a window. But its still a yacht possibility huh? Maaaaaan you guys are classic

Originally posted by adigregorio
reply to post by Paradigm2012

 

My art might make you look "good" but your insults do not.

Do they not resemble the windows?

Is that too hard to answer?

Windows usually are not MADE IN PHOTOSHOP

what version of PHOTOSHOP did you use to create your CRAYON ART

reply to post by Paradigm2012


So you agree, the object in question resembles the shape of the windows.

Thank you

reply to post by FlySolo


How can you compare my stance to another?

I am not Phage, I have a mind of my own.

I say you are the classic one.

Originally posted by adigregorio
reply to post by Paradigm2012

 

So you agree, the object in question resembles the shape of the windows.

Thank you

Thanks for helping me prove that its not a yacht.

Look at this.

It will change your mind.

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I WIN AGAIN!

What is wrong with everyone?

Seriously guys? Is this how we are treating each other on these forums?

Chad,

I agree it MAY be a boat.

Paradigm,

I agree that it may also be a UFO with its occupants being partially visible.

I dont think Paradigm is a "troll" just for posting his opposing views, and Chad I believe you are wrong in labeling him as a troll.

Dont you get it? By acting the way you do, you prevent others from sharing pertinent information on this thread!


How many people were really interested when they saw this thread pop up? Id say quite a few.

--BUT---

How many of them left this thread altogether after they saw page after page of you guys going at each-others necks?

I learned early on that it is very important to remain objective and open to alternate theory's on ATS, especially on the UFO forum.

I have been called out before, and have admitted I was wrong several times.

And you know why being humble on ATS is important? Because this is what will get us to the TRUTH.

United we stand, Divided we fall.

Stop bickering, name calling and START being civil, mature and ON TOPIC.

---GeminiSky

Originally posted by SupremeKnowledge
The video doesnt show him zooming in or out at all,
1 scene is far away, next scene its a super close up,

You cant even tell if they are the same object....

It is possible that he got footage of a light in the sky,
then edited a ufo miniature model in between the outdoor shots....

Or maybe he was switching camera lenses...

I want to see the unedited footage...

[edit on 17-7-2010 by SupremeKnowledge]

What you just typed was proven wrong about 100 times but we appreciate you taking the time to try again.

Come up with something else
Because that was shot down long time ago.

reply to post by Paradigm2012


Sure looks like yacht windows to me!

And since windows don't rest on the water, the yacht does. Thank you!

You can't see the ship because it is not illuminated. The inside is (you know that area BEHIND the windows) And since there is light on the inside, and the window is made of a translucent material...well...they are illuminated.

And since you agree that the shape resembles that of the windows, Occam's razor says this is a picture of a yacht at night time.

However, that doesn't mean it is. Notice, I can "agree" with your stance and still have mine. And do it all without insults.

Also, there is no "winning" in a debate, however an argument...well you can't win that either because I refuse to argue.

reply to post by adigregorio


Because you both can't be correct. But as long as the yacht theory survives right? Occam's Razor now says the easiest answer is you're now both wrong. I would most likely believe in a model and an elaborate hoax than to jeopardize my credibility as a free thinker.
Its a desperate attempt to find an answer and is not rational. Now that I see you edited the yacht picture with the red, I know we are indeed talking about the same thing. Tell me how the hell you have an inconsistency of light intensity if it were really interior light coming out a window? And you can't see anything else of the boat except the window? C'mon already ru kidding me? a freaking window on a boat 50 km away is the culprit to this epic ufo sighting??

Sigh sigh sigh. Smart people can be so dumb sometimes. Sorry dude, not to come off as an ass on purpose, but just listen to yourself.

reply to post by FlySolo


Lol, whatever you say man.

I am not Phage, and you are correct we both can not be right.

That doesn't mean we are both wrong, at least in the real world.

Originally posted by GeminiSky
What is wrong with everyone?

Seriously guys? Is this how we are treating each other on these forums?

Chad,

I agree it MAY be a boat.

Paradigm,

I agree that it may also be a UFO with its occupants being partially visible.

I dont think Paradigm is a "troll" just for posting his opposing views, and Chad I believe you are wrong in labeling him as a troll.

Dont you get it? By acting the way you do, you prevent others from sharing pertinent information on this thread!


How many people were really interested when they saw this thread pop up? Id say quite a few.

--BUT---

How many of them left this thread altogether after they saw page after page of you guys going at each-others necks?

I learned early on that it is very important to remain objective and open to alternate theory's on ATS, especially on the UFO forum.

I have been called out before, and have admitted I was wrong several times.

And you know why being humble on ATS is important? Because this is what will get us to the TRUTH.

United we stand, Divided we fall.

Stop bickering, name calling and START being civil, mature and ON TOPIC.

---GeminiSky

The problem is that the debunkers are only using "cartoons" "crayon art" and they get frusterated at me for winning the debate. If they wanted to make a comeback they should use something else other than cartoons and googled line art.


Yacht lovers present no witnesses
Yacht lovers use "cartoons" not actual photos
Yacht lovers conviniently ignore the daytime footage
Yacht lovers are acting out of desperation.

reply to post by GeminiSky


Show me where I have been less than civil.

As it looks to me, the others are the ones slinging the insults.

I have not reported them, yet. I was hoping we could have a mature discussion.

Originally posted by adigregorio
reply to post by Paradigm2012

 

Sure looks like yacht windows to me!

And since windows don't rest on the water, the yacht does. Thank you!

You can't see the ship because it is not illuminated. The inside is (you know that area BEHIND the windows) And since there is light on the inside, and the window is made of a translucent material...well...they are illuminated.

And since you agree that the shape resembles that of the windows, Occam's razor says this is a picture of a yacht at night time.

However, that doesn't mean it is. Notice, I can "agree" with your stance and still have mine. And do it all without insults.

Also, there is no "winning" in a debate, however an argument...well you can't win that either because I refuse to argue.

You can believe in the tooth fairy if you want.
If you want to see a boat but you can't see it, then you will still see what you want, the magical boat.

reply to post by Paradigm2012


You try and try to poison that well, and it just won't work, will it?

You can not win a debate.

You have proven nothing, other than you know how to appeal to ridicule:

Appeal to ridicule, also called appeal to mockery, the Horse Laugh,[1] or reductio ad ridiculum (Latin: "reduction to the ridiculous"), is a logical fallacy which presents the opponent's argument in a way that appears ridiculous, often to the extent of creating a straw man of the actual argument, rather than addressing the argument itself.

en.wikipedia.org...

Yeah, some debator

(There, I have now been "less than" civil.)

Originally posted by adigregorio
reply to post by FlySolo

 

Lol, whatever you say man.

I am not Phage, and you are correct we both can not be right.

That doesn't mean we are both wrong, at least in the real world.

let me reiterate. A window on a boat was mistaken to be a UFO.

I know you are trying hard to defend this notion and might actually be convincing yourself in the process. But, really be honest. A window on a boat has been mistaken to be a UFO. How does this sound to you?

reply to post by adigregorio


adigregorio,

I dont see your name mentioned anywhere in my post. This was directed at posters who are less than civil.

Paradigm, STOP seriously just stop.

I dont like people trying to pick apart and debunk my theory's anymore than you, HOWEVER you need to remain civil guys!

The minute you become reactive and go off topic you AUTOMATICALLY LOSE (as another poster has noted)

There were times when I was ready to post a very good and articulate reply hoping to disprove someones attempt at debunking me....luckily, I stopped and re-read their post and realized that their theory was JUST AS PLAUSIBLE as mine!

Dont make this personal dude! We all want to get to the bottom of the UFO subject, not scrape the bottom of the barrel listening to you guys bickering.

---GeminiSky

reply to post by GeminiSky


I have been into this thread from the beginning and to be honest I had to get away for a while. I do see where the yacht theory could be used,but as I have said earlier it just does not have enough behind it to say without a doubt this is a yacht. I also can say that this is an unidentified craft. Then there are some posts that are just out in left field and have no relevance to this thread.I am not going to bash anyone personally on here because everyone has a right to their own opinion. Now with that being said the last few posts that are talking about lights inside the cabin and showing lights from inside looking out and the post showing the front of a boat from the cabin are probably the most ludacrist thing I have seen yet in this thread.I think that there are a few that are trying way to hard to try and bring evidence to back up their posts and in all honesty it is just not working. Yes you are right about this getting a little out of hand with the personal attacks. All I ask is that if you are going to bring something to the table do not half ass it bring something that will keep this thread going in the right direction. Would you agree with me on that?

reply to post by FlySolo


Sure sounds possible, especially in an artifact filled photo/video.

Now here is a question for you:

When I state that this boat theory could be a possibility, why must I be beaten down? I never have said that it is 100% yet you folks seem to burn me as if I did.

And I see claims that the Skeptics are harsh, they weren't kidding!

I mean, I am not even allowed to CONSIDER this to be a boat's window. Even if it LOOKS JUST LIKE ONE.

EDIT (To fix: possiblity to possibility)

[edit on 7/18/2010 by adigregorio]

Originally posted by FlySolo

Originally posted by adigregorio
reply to post by FlySolo

 

Lol, whatever you say man.

I am not Phage, and you are correct we both can not be right.

That doesn't mean we are both wrong, at least in the real world.

let me reiterate. A window on a boat was mistaken to be a UFO.

I know you are trying hard to defend this notion and might actually be convincing yourself in the process. But, really be honest. A window on a boat has been mistaken to be a UFO. How does this sound to you?

We are all laughing at the BOAT WINDOW CRAP.

The Boat Window Theory is actually helping to prove THAT ITS A REAL UFO.