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Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
If people just realized earlier on and had a little more love in their hearts, instead of constantly searching for it , there would be a better way... the only way and the only truth I see is we are here but a limited time, why not enjoy it everyday and to the last breath.
in my opinion, those without morality are capable of doing great harm to others, especially if they are put into the position of great power.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
And as far as morals go I really don't know any atheists who do not have a high sense of morality
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
And as far as morals go I really don't know any atheists who do not have a high sense of morality
I do...
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
majority rule establishes "fact"
Originally posted by stuncrazy
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
ok explain the apparition of fatima for me kind sir. give me anything other than mass hysteria. mass hysteria is a scientific cop out... its like saying "idk but i'm not gonna call it God"
there is plenty of reports from secular newspapers everyone was eating this up because it was a prediction of a 10 yr old girl.. and guess what it came true. tens of thousands of people saw this skeptics newspaper photographers. plenty of evidence.
prove it's fake.
Originally posted by stuncrazy
reply to post by madnessinmysoul
why does it seem that you think people in general are stupid? this was only 100 years ago.
but your gonna tell me that 30,000 - 100k people were starring at the sun and couldn't figure out that what they were seeing was because they were staring at the sun?
why wasn't it proven false when it happened? why couldn't they in their day and age prove this to be a farce?
people aren't idiots and the picture your painting is a mass group of people who couldn't understand that starring at the sun causes you to see things. mass hysteria is a cop out. i'm sorry it just is.
if 30k people saw a murder take place but there was no physical evidence none whatsoever guess what the person who killed will go to jail.
in no way shape or form can i kill someone make sure there is no evidence and then go off and say oh all those people that saw me do it. oh yea that was mass hysteria. they tricked themselves into seeing me kill the person.
even in scientific terms 30k is a lot of people to fool.
i'll take anything other than mass hysteria. simply, because mass hysteria is simply saying idk what happened.
Originally posted by stuncrazy
reply to post by madnessinmysoul
ok seeing as how that one's not gonna get ya.
i'll let you in on a secret, i believe the Fatima apparitions and any apparitions are a great deception myself, but simply because i know the Catholic church plays for the bad guys.
OK i'll give you a series of findings.
these have been proven and can be proven time and time and time and time again.
and the overwhelming odds of these being mere luck is astonishing.
i am a man of reason just as yourself my friend. i question everything and everybody it's the analytics of my mind. I've had my experiences in life where i know without a question in my mind that there is a God.
the only reason i push others to meet him, well he's my best friend. he's a great listener, his wise words are very important to me in this life we trek. he is the ruler (guide stick) by which i judge myself and hold myself accountable. i love knowing God, and i wish it on absolutely everyone. i'm not trying to be pushy i respect the views and perspectives of everyone. i just love spreading the love.
1. Google Heptadic structures in the bible there's plenty of them. it's a task Sir Isaac Newton first tried to tackle and prove, but seeing as he didn't have the luxury of a computer he could never fully see the grand scheme of it. (this has nothing to do with bible codes if that is what you are thinking.)
2. when the genealogy from Adam to Noah is presented in Genesis 5 when each name is put by it's original Hebrew meaning. it gives a short synopsis of the story of christ i'll put it down here for ya
adam = man
seth = appointed
Seth = "compensation"
enosh = mortal
kenan (cainan bad translation) = sorrow
mahalalel = the blessed God
jared = shall come down
enoch = teaching
methuselah = his death shall bring
lamech = despairing
noah = comfort, or rest
so from adam to noah their names literally mean. man (is) appointed mortal sorrow (but) the blessed God shall come down teaching(.) his death shall bring (the) despairing comfort/rest.
i can go all days with the miracles the bible has within it. but i'll just give you these for now.
as for the second question though i know your going to say that these names can be translated differently which is absolutely true, but the fact remains that these names can be translated this way as well.
if just a single one of these names were different then it would ruin it all. so explain this one away as coincidence. i've got plenty more.
the word coincidence can only hold so much value. like how people claim that the big bang created the universe.
i'll give you a science experiment get a rock put some TNT in it, and blow it up you can do this as many times as you want. post a picture when you get a perfectly round rock.
Originally posted by chancemusky
As an athiest, are you open to the idea of a deity if one could be proved to you?
Or say, if one "spoke" to you?
Originally posted by stuncrazy
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
ok explain the apparition of fatima for me kind sir. give me anything other than mass hysteria.
Originally posted by LulzCode6
To say that the universe was created by chance and that there was no guardian over it to control the course of events is like saying there was an explosion at a printing press and a dictionary was formed as the result of it. It is absolutely impossible. We accept that a master piece of literature cannot be produced without an intelligent writer how then can we accept that the universe was created without God?
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by LulzCode6
To say that the universe was created by chance and that there was no guardian over it to control the course of events is like saying there was an explosion at a printing press and a dictionary was formed as the result of it. It is absolutely impossible. We accept that a master piece of literature cannot be produced without an intelligent writer how then can we accept that the universe was created without God?
Personally I do not see the correlation at all between a dictionary and living things.
Nice try - - but No.