What Is Wrong With You America?

Originally posted by Protostellar
Don't try to change the subject. It doesn't matter what offends me. I'm just calling you out for being hypocritical, which you clearly are.

I would say the same regarding you but it does not matter..back and forth! If you have nothing to add regarding to the topic you may leave the thread. Ta Ta

[edit on 13-7-2010 by Crimson_King]

Originally posted by Protostellar


Don't try to change the subject. It doesn't matter what offends me. I'm just calling you out for being hypocritical, which you clearly are.

How was he being hypocritical? I get ATS swings pretty hard to the right, but this guy didn't say he agreed with it. he just wants to talk about it. he's not saying no one else can post e-mails, which they do. So where is the hypocrisy?

Originally posted by Crimson_King

What the HELL is wrong with you?

Is this question to the nation, the leaders or the citizens?

Let me rephrase your question:

HUMANITY...What the HELL is wrong with you?

Originally posted by antonia

Originally posted by Protostellar


Don't try to change the subject. It doesn't matter what offends me. I'm just calling you out for being hypocritical, which you clearly are.

How was he being hypocritical? I get ATS swings pretty hard to the right, but this guy didn't say he agreed with it. he just wants to talk about it. he's not saying no one else can post e-mails, which they do. So where is the hypocrisy?

It's really simple. The OP used spam email w/ very skewed points to generalize an entire nation. Later in the OP, he/she claims America is responsible for the remaining existence of xenophobia (among other things) in the world, right in the middle of his/her xenophobic post. Hypocrisy.


And to the OP - I have not feigned any virtue. Good luck getting me to leave your thread.



[edit on 13-7-2010 by Protostellar]

[edit on 13-7-2010 by Protostellar]

Originally posted by Protostellar


It's really simple. The OP used spam email w/ very skewed points to generalize an entire nation. Later in the OP, he/she claims America is responsible for the remaining existence of xenophobia (among other things) in the world, right in the middle of his/her xenophobic post. Hypocrisy.

The OP states:

Eh' just wanted to add got this in my email from some random person and thought of sharing with all.

You are assuming he agrees with it. He did not write the e-mail, so he made no claims.

And to the OP - I have not feigned any virtue. Good luck getting me to leave your thread.

So basically you are going to stay here and keep screaming at the OP because you didn't like what he posted. Sounds productive, keep at it.

reply to post by antonia


OP posted w/out commenting, other than saying they thought they would share it with us. I have no choice other than to believe he/she agrees with it. Posting something like this w/out commenting is essentially trolling, and I took the bait. So yeah, I'll be as productive as I want to.

Originally posted by Crimson_King
Have you noticed that, while the rest of the world has moved into secular enlightenment and humanism, America continues to foster religious fanaticism and hatred? We laugh at you for your stupidity, but you're hurting the world as a whole; if not for you, all kinds of vile ideas like homophobia, xenophobia, creationism, and racism could be all but wiped out by now.

Haha...yeah, if it weren't for the US, the rest of the world would be one big peaceful utopia.

If the US were gone, then we wouldn't have religious fanaticism. We wouldn't have Islamic fundamentalists murdering fellow muslims for watching the World Cup. We wouldn't have women in Saudi Arabia being imprisoned for being raped. Without the US, ethnic groups in Africa would just stop fighting and figure out a way to live with each other.

If we could just get rid of those wretched Americans, homophobia would simply disappear. Iran would no longer execute homosexuals and would allow them to openly assimilate into Persian society. Racism would also disappear, as it is exclusive to the US, and all races/religions would live in everlasting harmony.

Seriously...is this a joke? I would love to know where the author is from so I could spout off some false generalizations about the people of his country.

Obvious troll is obvious. Further more i dont the validity of the statement "email sent to me".

More like "i made all this up...these are really my thoughts ion america and her people...but i must lie because i know if i really state this i will be made fun of because of my stupidity".

reply to post by JackCash


Those are fine cities indeed.

Notice I said America, as in a country, and also notice how I said "one", which in my context is very open.

The cost of living in those cities, like many major cities, are astronomical.

Not saying I wouldn't enjoy the opportunity.

reply to post by Crimson_King


You sir have posted perhaps one of the more idiotic things I've ever seen. And if you believe it you aren't that bright. YOu've posted a load of crap, and I feel obligated to destroy it.

The metric system. The US isn't the only country that doesn't use it. So you lied. Liberia and Burma don't use the metric system.

Physical fitness. Beautiful women. Yeah we eat well. Other countries in the top 10 are mexico, the uk, greece, australia, new zealand, slovakia, hungary and luxemborg. Beautiful women? The US has tons of beautiful fit women.

The US isn't the only country that supports Israel. Israel has diplomatic relationships with 161 nations.

Fast Food and fine cuisine. The us, uk, australia, japan, south korea, austria, sweden and switzerland consume the most fast food. The US has more fine dining establishments than any other country in the world. As far as vegatarianism. Who says it's the best way? 10% of the US or almost 23 million people follow a largely vegatarian diet. Get your facts straight.

I despise Unions but 12.4% of all Americans are in a labor Union. And as far as workers rights, why do you think many companies don't manufacture in America? Because of workers rights. Our workers are the most protected int he world. And without those big corporations, there would be no jobs for your union workers. Corporations and Unions are symbiotic, not a helpful symbiosis the Unions are more parasitic than anything. Look at the New Jersey retirement plan for union workers. Your a millionaire and don't pay anything into it.

AMerica is overly tolerant. Free speech. You can get away with more here than any other country in the world. And America was born as a multicultural nation. If you don't know American history and about our immigration then don't speak about it. I dare say America is one of the least racist countries in the present day world. We aren't even terribly xenophopbic. Look at how Muslim countries treat women, white people and jews. Look out how whites are treated in Africa hell look at how different tribes are treated. Genocide. Look at western Europe.

Peace and nonviolence? Cmon. THe carribean, Africa, South America, Central America, you know what never mind. The global intentional homicide rate is 7.6 per hundred thousand, North America's is 6.5%. As far as being involved in wars, your clueless. You have no idea what we've done for the rest of the world.

The US has ton's of protected environmental areas. We have tons of environmental activism and we have more laws protecting nature than almost any country in the world. There is nowhere in the US that is on the top 10 most polluted places in the world list.

Free healthcare is a myth. Taxes pay for it. SO you can pay for insurance or you have the government take your money and decide how it should be spent. Freedom to choose. But free healthcare isn't a human right. Universal healthcare is a financial burden on every country that has it. And no American can be refused energency medical treatment.

Who is the most famous Agrarian of all time? THomas Jefferson. The US has more Rural areas than most other industrialized nations. And your sweatshops don't exist in the US, they exist in most of the other countries on your pretty flag picture.

Producerism? YOu mean Producer Radicalism? Producerism, so you are a marxist? Consumerism started in Ancient Egypt, Babylon and Rome. If you want to look for countries that consume more than they can sustain then look elsewhere.

Most scientiffic innovations come from the US. Evoloution is taught in schools. Religous hatred? Go to Muslim nations. People here are free to worship whatever diety they choose.

Gay marrige? The US is one of the most liberal countries in the world with gay rights. In many African nations you still get life imprisonment or death penalty for gay marrige. Most of the world doesn't allow it or makes it a crime. YOu are misinformed or a liar.

THe US has strict gun control. But it is our right to own a weapon, to hunt, to protect our families. If you think gun control keeps guns from criminals your not very bright. An armed populace is great protection. ANd again North AMerica is below the global intentional homicide rate.

Everyone else on earth has an ounce of compassion for humanity? THe US gives more foreign aid and does more to benefit the rest of the world than any other country. Gawd you are misinformed.

You have lied. YOu have misinformed. You misrepresent so many things about the US. YOu have spread so many lies that you should be ashamed. If you want to knock the US then get your facts straight.

Whenever there is a disaster around the world, Americans respond readily and generously, and are usually the first to do so.

Why do people leave their homeland risking all to get in this country?
Because it is still the best country in the world.

reply to post by Crimson_King


i will go thru your pics starting from the top but first id like to ask why you are so worried about us?

1- metric system- we use both metric, because we dont discriminate
2-physical fitness - we have both , because we dont discriminate . BTW i dont
know if ive ever seen women anywhere as hot as U.S. ladies
3- isreal/palistine - we know they are both wrong, because we dont discriminate
4- food habbits - we like them both , because we dont discriminate
5- worker rights - we use them both as the need arises , because we dont
discriminate
6 - tolleranece - we are the most tolerant countries ANYWHERE, because
dont discriminate
7 - war/peace - we use both, because we dont discrimiate
8- nature/rape - we started envirmentalism , and we use our natural
resoursses ,because we dont discriminate
9 - healthcare - none has found a good way to deliver "free" heathcare
10 - fair trade - we have been so fair we lost all our jobs,because we dont
discrininate
11- consumerism - we are all consumers by nature, dont discriminate
12 humanism/religion - we embrace both(usually) because we dont
discriminate
13- sexuallity - americans are FREAKS in the sheets!
14- guns - guns dont discriminate
15- you/repubs - im a repub and i dont discriminate

you on the other hand seem do discriminate against a lot of stuff

you are ignorant and i deny you

Thought I'd butt in with the minor point that America's (mostly past) free market healthcare system invented a pretty large share of the medical technology used by the socialized world.

reply to post by Another_Nut


Hi

Dream on! I enjoy travelling in the US but - open minds..... sorry but I have to smile....!


Peace!

Nothing you listed could be farther from the truth of an american. Your simply basing your anger against our gov and the tards runing the country. We are not like them but if wish to group us with them then your just as bad as the dirty americans you hate.

Furthermore WTF is it with people thinking we like fat weman??? Only africans like the junk in the trunk buddy and they are not red blooded americans. Yes we have more fat people than most countries but we also have less starving people than any other place. You will never catch americans eating mud like they do in hati so yea there are more fatties here and more famine in the rest of the world.

In the end I really do not care for america nor people like you that feel the need to talk shiz about another. We need to look at ourselves and not others.

There is one reply to prove this is all false.

Megan Fox
Now that's a great American product!

I like when a thread makes old registered members (big fish) come out

The only thing i'll remember from this post is the last image,down right

I think our younger generation will be a bit more on the ball. With the internet, culture/policies will probably become more uniform.

[edit on 13-7-2010 by ghaleon12]

Originally posted by Crimson_King
Cool reply so far, what I'm looking for is some serious considerations on the points mentioned above and reply.

Except people shouldn't take this seriously. This image is great for laugh or two, or just pissing people off (which was clearly your intent here), but that's it, I really don't think anyone needs to debate these "points". This would be like debating whether or not that cat should be give a cheeseburger.

[edit on 13-7-2010 by technical difficulties]

Let me start with saying I don't support everything mentioned in the OP. There are few points I find in your reply which are not entirely truthful. Let me point that out for you.

Originally posted by DrJay1975
reply to post by Crimson_King

 

The US isn't the only country that supports Israel. Israel has diplomatic relationships with 161 nations.

This statement of your's is not truthful. United States is the only country which vetos any resolution regarding Israel. Having diplomatic relations does not mean being a "poodle" of someone. Let us take the recent Flotilla incident where US administration did not even condemned the attacks on the aid ship which even had 1 American citizen on it.

Fast Food and fine cuisine. The us, uk, australia, japan, south korea, austria, sweden and switzerland consume the most fast food. The US has more fine dining establishments than any other country in the world. As far as vegatarianism. Who says it's the best way? 10% of the US or almost 23 million people follow a largely vegatarian diet. Get your facts straight.

Most of the fast foods are headquartered in U.S and you cannot disagree that fast food is one of the main cause of getting obese. Even the article last month came out warned on this
Americans getting fatter, especially in the South

I despise Unions but 12.4% of all Americans are in a labor Union. And as far as workers rights, why do you think many companies don't manufacture in America? Because of workers rights. Our workers are the most protected int he world. And without those big corporations, there would be no jobs for your union workers. Corporations and Unions are symbiotic, not a helpful symbiosis the Unions are more parasitic than anything. Look at the New Jersey retirement plan for union workers. Your a millionaire and don't pay anything into it.

In other words you are saying Unions shouldn't exist? Unions are what protect workers rights not corporations.

AMerica is overly tolerant. Free speech. You can get away with more here than any other country in the world. And America was born as a multicultural nation. If you don't know American history and about our immigration then don't speak about it. I dare say America is one of the least racist countries in the present day world. We aren't even terribly xenophopbic. Look at how Muslim countries treat women, white people and jews. Look out how whites are treated in Africa hell look at how different tribes are treated. Genocide. Look at western Europe.

On the contrary the recent firing of Helen Thomas and CNN editor Octavia Nasr contradicts your statement of free speech and tolerance. If America was so multi cultural how come we have to hear about till now how Obama bowed to Japanese royal King as respect to their traditions? You can still find the thread on ATS and see the vast number of views there. Multi cultural .. I wouldn't say so.