RE: Alex Jones

reply to post by rubbertramp


Not saying that AJ is not credible as he has made me think about subjects a bit differently. I guess you just have to figure out what may be plausible and what may be not so plausible. I have enjoyed listening to him in the past and will still listen but I do it with a little more skepticism now a days.

Alex Jones is a mixed bag
and a double edge sword.

He was partly responsible for waking
me up along with the producers of
Loose Change, Cory and the gang

I like him but his demeanor and delivery
can get on peoples nerves after a while.
He has good intent and good content
but that sensationalist delivery is his
worst enemy in public opinion. If he toned
it down a few notches, he could be
a hell of a lot more effective. However
in today's age of ADHD, his ranting delivery
is just what the doctor ordered. He reminds
me so much of a charismatic preacher
who runs all over the stage and preaches
from his bully pulpit. While it may be
sensationalism at it's finest, he at least
keeps the parishioners from falling asleep

His reputation has been hampered on quite
a few fronts due to the fact that the very audience
he is speaking to is also the most distrusting
of all. Therefore, he is placed under tighter
scrutiny than someone you would meet at
a coffee house or cafe. With scrutiny comes
doubt.

And some even claim that his messages play
right into the hands of the enemy, eg the alphabet
soup. While it hasn't been proven, that stigma
follows him and his message wherever he goes.

I think AJ has a calling to do what he does. He
was born to do exactly what he's doing. And thus
waking up a sleeping populace becomes paramount
no matter how he decides to accomplish it.

As far as me personally, I like AJ but too much AJ
can be detrimental to my mental health
There is only so much information people can
comprehend without burning out from a data
overload.

But I would like to thank him for his efforts and if
I ever got the chance, I would gladly shake his hand
and extend him my friendship For in my opinion
he has done more good for the cause than he has
done bad. And that deserves a positive thumbs up.

Go Alex

Calling Alex a dis info agent and fear monger is like ranking on the weatherman when he calls for more rain.

Who says he talks and has no proof? He talks about about almost everything we discuss here. What "proof" do we have that he doesn't. We're all surfing the same internet, same links, he at least invites guest speakers and industry insiders who are as awake and fed up as he.

Alex is a big voice during this awakening which makes him a target. Sure he has sponsors and sells DVD's, we're still a capitalist nation aren't we? There may come a time when we do things purely for the appreciation but as of right now? Come on folks. You make your money anyway you can, don't blame him for using the system in place as it's meant to.

As for the fear thing, people can project whatever energy they want, it's up to you to interpret how to take it. If you choose to react in a fearful manner it says more about you than it does Alex.

The rabbit hole is deeper than we know and no one messenger will be able to provide all of the answers to all of the mysteries we're unraveling these days.

So I say listen to Alex, his information is quite valuable. Let him shake you up, open your eyes and then after you feel you are ready to move on to the next truther/researcher you can.

When you venture out into the webs of others I highly suggest Freeman from freemantv.com. He's more peace and love oriented than most hard line researchers but his style shows you don't always have to show your teeth to get people to listen to this type of information.

You know, at one time, I had a lot of respect for Alex Jones. I thought he did well with revealing the shenanigans of the Waco tragedy, et cetera, but in the last few years, at least to me, he has become nothing more than a screaming meme.

reply to post by HIStory Indeed


Calling Alex a dis info agent and fear monger is like ranking on the weatherman when he calls for more rain.
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I never said he was a disnfo agent, i do however maintain that he is a fear mongerer..

I purposefully did not say he was a Disinfo because regardless if he is or not it is a circular arguement. And at the moment unwinnable by either side no matter which side of the debate you stand on.

But

the Fear Mongering label is justly applied here. This man is an oppurtunist and a profiteer, and he uses sensationalist rhetoric combined with loosely linked together real news stories to fit into his infomercial ahem i mean infowars show.

And as i stated earlier yes he has woken many people up with his wranting and raving of an impending doomsday that will usher us into the fema camps..and many of them have moved on to do thier own research.

and I appreciate that.

but i also see the man for what he is , a snake oil salesmen masquerading as a patriot..

~meathead

[edit on 12-7-2010 by Mike Stivic]

reply to post by AndrewJay


Wow what can not be said bout this guy.
Have you ever listened to any of his movies?
Not watched but close you eyes and just use your auditory sense.
If you were to you would hear a panicked voice and a background music in minor very foreboding sounding music.
He always makes outlandish claims “LISTEN FOLKS THIS IS THE BIGGEST STORY I HAVE EVER BROKEN”!!!
And as far as I know this guy has never had any accurate information, his predictions are as false as an ATS ufo thread.
In short Alex Jones is a FEARMONGER.
This person makes his living off of advertising “BUY GOLD” and spreading fear to the uneducated masses.
We are here today, we were here yesterday and I am pretty sure we will be here tomorrow.
I am not saying hat there are no problems with the world but, if there were I’m sure AJ will be the last to know as he spends too much time looking at his bank statements giggling that what he is doing is legal and profitable.

reply to post by Cosmic4life


So...you are saying that he has been predicting the Imminent end of the world soon, for the past twenty years?
STOP!!!
Just think about that.
It is wrestling folks and nothing more, he is just like macho man, without so much macho.

alex jones...

...is a bit of a dick

reply to post by g146541


He hasn't been predicting the end of the world for 20yrs.

He predicted the end of liberty and the fascist state 20yrs ago.

He was talking about false flag terror since WTC 93, Oklahoma 95...

Etc etc....get over it.

reply to post by Cosmic4life


WOAH! he predicted something 20 years ago that actualy happend hundreds of years before hand already???

What a guy.

He's a #ing douche get over it eh

reply to post by Cosmic4life


Ok I'll take your word at face value.
20 years later and I still am a free man who owns guns.
I won't say there are no problems, but at the very least his delivery is a bit over the top.

I don't care what anyone says about Alex Jones, because the guy has an amazing memory and ability to call up information on a whim. He also has a 4 hour radio show EVERY DAY (except Saturday), so he's got to keep it "peppy" to keep people listening.

He is full of hyperbole, but the core of his message is true: There is a group of Global Elites vying to destroy national sovereignty of all nations in order to create One World Government.

He has the government documents to prove it. He backs up the core aspects of his message.

True, he has a self-admitted tendency to get too fired up and go off on rants.

But nobody is perfect. He works is a$$ off to get the message out and wake people up. For that, he is a Saint. A flawed Saint, but a Saint none-the-less.

reply to post by harrytuttle


But nobody is perfect. He works is a$$ off to get the message out and wake people up. For that, he is a Saint. A flawed Saint, but a Saint none-the-less.
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Click this:

www.youtube.com...



And i love the way you subconciously know and write it into your post:

"He works is a$$ off "



~meathead

Edit to add:*Disclaimer*
I did not mean to imply he dresses up in womens clothes in his spare time..

[edit on 12-7-2010 by Mike Stivic]

Originally posted by AndrewJay
im thinking about calling him and demanding he register on ats just to see what he says lol. he has these daily shows that u can call and talk to him just thought it be interesting to see his response. im sure he knows about the site.

I've heard enough of his call ins to give a basic idea of how he would respond. He would say that he does his show four hours a week and barely has enough time for his family, so registering on ATS is not on his radar. Plus, he would probably tell you to spend more time running for office.

A lot of people criticize Alex Jones for being a fear monger, but I think he's just passionate about what he does. And others say he doesn't offer solutions, but he's constantly telling people to run for local office.

I've listened to Alex Jones for almost two years now, and while my faith in him wavered slightly, I can say now that I have nothing but respect for him. But, as he always says, there is no silver bullet, and he doesn't want it to be about him, so making the subject about Alex Jones is distraction from the real problems going on in the country.

[edit on 12-7-2010 by filosophia]

reply to post by tsurfer2000h


of course, but are you claiming all of them?
i like examples, same goes with the flip side.

those who claim he tells the truth, know he tells the truth.
like i said above, with alex you get truth and lies all wrapped up in one.
i just think classifying him as only one or the other is wrong.

Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by rubbertramp

 

Not saying that AJ is not credible as he has made me think about subjects a bit differently. I guess you just have to figure out what may be plausible and what may be not so plausible. I have enjoyed listening to him in the past and will still listen but I do it with a little more skepticism now a days.

i still flick on the shortwae a few time a week and listen to him and others.
the one thing alex does say, over and over.
do not believe him, do your own research.
he says similar things constantly, ad nauseum.
besides this, he is a showman with a radio show and an obvious agenda.

a few things he got me going on.
flouride
tap water
c.p.s.
haliburton and other contractors
cia involvement in drugs
etc....etc.......
is everything he says about these subjects true, not 100% i'd say.
but a high percentage fer sure.

reply to post by g146541


If it wasn't for people like Alex, you wouldn't have your guns.

Credit where credit is due, Alex was the first in breaking a lot of info TPTB would rather you didn't know.

I don't understand the near hatred of some of the posters.

reply to post by AndrewJay


I used to listen to him when I was first 'waking up' but it didn't take long for his loud mouthed tirades to grow old. He acts as if overt tyranny is going to happen tomorrow if we don't do something and yet ignores all the evidence to the contrary that obviously points to a continuation of covert tyranny. TPTB aren't interested in some stereotypical dystopia, they know we're much better slaves when we don't realize we're being used.

So its a combination of his brash nature and suspicion that he might be in bed with "Zionists" or some other group as a tool of disinformation.

Its simple yet many try to deny the fact that ALL people of his caliper or close are discredited by the authorities to the point of them either being ignored completly or killed like Phill Schneider. Honestly I think he does it on purpose so the TPTB do not assist him in a suicide. After all most on this site wich should be his core followers think he is a nut case yet so many others like him that where more serious figures" end up dead.

Some think he is acting retarded and setting himself for falure and to be jaded as a nut. Personally I think he is a genious based on the fact that he is able to get some truth out in such a nutty coating that it does not get him killed.

Look into it sometime, anyone with this line of work ends up commiting suicide or will forever carry the title of nut case. Just look at billy meier.


Sad part is its not only the gov fault as most of us has bashed others like him and this will happen until proof is not only provided but backed by TPTB. As we claim we are not sheeple but yet billy meier provided proof decades ago and we still do not beleave it. He provided pics that where digitally enhanced and showed depth unlike any fake. Sound clips that could not be matched to this day! Metal samples unlike anything we have mined on earth to this date. Also prdictions and things beyond the capability of any single man on earth let alone some poor 3rd world farmer. Phi Schnieder was another ex-military turned wistle blower that had many attemps on his life and really set the stage for alien greys and military bases or DUMBS "deep underground military bases". He on the other hand told people to use there brains and did not spout it off in the random crazy ways. He had a scar accrossed his chest and was missing fingures by what he called an alien atk yet I have never seen proof of where he got he scar elsware "as the medical records not lining with the story could prove it a fake. He also had a type of bone cancer and very limited shoulder movment do to his injuries and condiditon. Yet he managed to commit suicide via a medical tube tied in a fasion it seemed impossible for him to tie. Phil covered many things that are the same as Alex. Phil also had another friend that "commited suicide" the day before he was to announce the true military reason for the "star warz" project.

So in the end he is crazy so its easier for TPTB to dissmiss him due to the lack of substance for the sheeple. The day he shows all and acts sound will be the day he is a walking dead man.

[edit on 12-7-2010 by robbinsj]

[edit on 12-7-2010 by robbinsj]

reply to post by AndrewJay


The reason why people consider him a nut is because he is a small government constitutional conservative.

Thus, the communists and socialists hate him even though he constantly calls for end to the wars, calls for drugs to be legalized, points out the banks run everything.

None of that matters to the communists.

They hate him because he wants to limit the governments power.

He's not really a nut, he just has a gigantic left-wing propaganda machine telling everyone he's a nut.

Its interesting to note that they tried to do the same thing to Ron Paul, except Ron has a bully pulpit, so their accusations don't stick.






[edit on 12-7-2010 by mnemeth1]