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The Truth Behind The ET Conspiracy.

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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:36 PM
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Well folks , the way other nations are progressing with there respective space programs we won't have long to wait to see if stories such as this are true or not .

Speaking for myself , I thend to believe that the military does have some type of space program, just how deep and just of far reaching , I just don't know .



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:54 PM
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i BELIEVE YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT.

Just taking the retiring head of LOCKEED SKUNK WORKS' retirement statement at minimal face value:

IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IT, WE CAN DO IT . . .

plus

a number of other sources who've claimed we have a capacity to go to the moon, Mars, other planets with ease . . . I think we still might pick up some interesting and potentially useful puzzle pieces from this narrative and source.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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I only noticed this thread today, and it's very interesting.

Hormun, did Terry say anything about the ancient Sumerians or Anunnaki? Was the ancient technology discovered in the mid east? Also, did Terry say anything about 9/ll or the invasion of Iraq?

I'm still confused as to why you say there are no ETs. ET means Extra-terrestrial and not of earth. Could there possibly be life at a higher frequency and possibly only seen when they lower that frequency?

Where did the biologically designed humanoids originate and the Greys?

Did you ask Terry about Roswell or Dulce Mexico? Sorry, I'm full of questions.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 06:12 PM
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Well, I am finally done being treated like a pump bitch. Just wanted to post one last time to all the naysayers on this thread:

I apologize for sticking up for yet another of society's rejects. I am not a blind follower and really just wanted to read the rest of his story, actually, since he was trying to pass it off as truth it would be more appropriate to call his words lies.

Just remember that freedom of speech is a two way street and the naysayer's constant attacks are what brought me back to this thread again and again.

Who are you to determine what is allowed to be disseminated?

And Yes, I am admitting my own Hypocrisy as: who was I to tell you not to voice your opinions of the OP?

I was just having fun dissecting this tall tale to see what was making it tick and why some have this overwhelming need/desire to fabricate lies, always be right, show the world how right they truly are and make themselves out to be much more important in this electronic world than in reality.

Even though I will not be able to finish my research on the OP, I am pleased to have acquired much more data from the other end of the spectrum.

As Stated Previously: For further information, take a half day or so and research The Hubris Syndrome, makes for fascinating reading and may answer a few questions.


Until next time:
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"The megalomaniac differs from the narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved. To this type belong many lunatics and most of the great men of history." - Bertrand Russell



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 07:03 PM
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I'm not sure I really see your point eye heart bigfoot - I knew Hornum was lying before I even finished reading his OP so i called it and at the end of the day......... Oh look, he WAS lying. I don't think it's hubristic to call out a liar who is attempting to manipulate vulnerable retards into worshipping him.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by catwhoknows
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I congratulate you for all that work.

I believe in Jesus - He is an alien - oh, well, no proof.

But without His rules we would be completely insane.


The world wasn’t completely insane before the idea of Jesus and I think we will be fine without that idea going forward.

As to the thread, I don’t know if there are mines on the moon but it wouldn’t surprise me, but neither would learning that another species has travelled to earth, I think you’re trying too hard to disprove a popular conspiracy theory, combining a fabricated story with some truth mixed in, sort of like the Jesus idea.


[edit on 8-8-2010 by deenuu]



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 07:47 PM
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This guy is full of crap!

This is why...
He has a prepackaged story that fits all these together, I don't think so!:
UFOs,
magic rock,
aliens,
underground bases,
arctic bases,
moon bases,
mars bases,
invisible elements mined on the moon ("Zoniom or Xoniom"),
Cloning,
Secret military programs,
men in black,
Masons,
The Powers That Be,
bloodlines,
good,bad,dark,light,god,no god,
humanoid,
religion,
Nazi,

That's what I can think of off the top of my head...

Oh, and why in the hell would you rush off...so that you can post on ATS?

This guy is so full of sh!t.

Please look-up douche in the dictionary to see this OP's picture!



Oh and I am pretty sure Bigfoot is pissed about being left out of the story!


[edit on 9-8-2010 by jeh2324]



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by Arkady
I'm not sure I really see your point eye heart bigfoot - I knew Hornum was lying before I even finished reading his OP so i called it and at the end of the day......... Oh look, he WAS lying. I don't think it's hubristic to call out a liar who is attempting to manipulate vulnerable retards into worshipping him.


No No No...I is not always All About You!

All those megalomaniacal comments were aimed directly at Hornum.

I was just showing my dissatisfaction over your overwhelming need to be so right and tell everyone about how right you are. As your above quote so CLEARLY states, I think!

Nice to know you think of your fellow ATS Members as "vulnerable retards". Please save us ALL so we can follow you instead, Oh Great One.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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Let us know when your book comes out... so we know what not to waste money on.

This is written like a story, not a retold account of a firsthand event (story). And for that, you fail.

This should be moved to the hoax forum, because it is a lie. And you should feel ashamed for being a liar.

Goodbye.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 12:33 AM
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I might even consider believing this if I hadn't already had so much in-depth knowledge from my father about what goes on in the secret government. From him, there are no ETs, there are no gods, and the government will lie to you about everything. He was a mason.

This isn't to nay-say ET-believers. I understand the probably myself and honestly I believe there is life out there. I just have no conclusive evidence that they interact with Earth at all.

In the spirit of the moment, however, it would be respectful to give it the benefit of the doubt, considering there is as much evidence here as with most every other tale of strangeness and curiosity I've seen. I've been trying to figure a way that metal could just turn invisible in reaction to air, and the best I can come up with is that the air would create a channel for the light when interacting with the metal, thus essentially jumping from one particle of air to the next and somehow ignoring the metal particles entirely. As for the global network of underground people. Surely even one person with access to the internet could have noticed it?



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 11:38 AM
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My psychic powers from the god of light are telling me that Hornum will disappear for awhile. Upon his return he will announce himself the Messiah and tell us about his 30 days in the desert with the secret world government police who tortured him and wiped his memory of everything Terry told him. Terry didn't survive so no more info is available. But he downloaded all of the information into a fern in his living room which he willed to me. I have to figure out how to access it and decrypt it. Can anyone get me a magic palm pilot rock like he had? That would help. Got the magic rock and decrypted it, he said I am the god of light in human form. You must send me money so I can borrow the scientologists alien ghost cleansing machine. Thank you for your support. And read my lips no new taxes. Peace and light be with you as I prepare to crush the evil masonic plans of the dark lord of cookies. Don't forget to send donations!



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by EyeHeartBigfoot
I was just showing my dissatisfaction over your overwhelming need to be so right and tell everyone about how right you are. As your above quote so CLEARLY states, I think!

I don't need to be right, I just am. It's not exactly like I'm making whole threads about "how right I am", it's not possible to demonstrate that somebody is lying without also demonstrating that you were right when you said they were lying.


Nice to know you think of your fellow ATS Members as "vulnerable retards". Please save us ALL so we can follow you instead, Oh Great One.

95% of all posters on ATS are vulnerable retards but I have no interest in saving them.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 06:55 PM
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MODS ---
MODS -----
MODS!!!! -------------------

Are you FINALLY going to put this in the hoax section now, and/or close this thread??????

I seriously don't understand what is taking you guys so long. You are always so quick to put a label on hoax threads and/or close them. But with this thread you aren't? Any particular reason?



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 07:11 PM
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Firstly thank you to those of you who have stuck with this in a positive way from the beginning, I appreciate it more than you know, secondly to Pjslug and Arkady for that matter....

You amaze me! You are so much in denial you miss the things in life layed right in front of you, you are ignorant beyond belief! I have been coming back periodically to check the comments here and you are always putting in your two little cents, wake up! This is not fiction!

I am no longer using this platform to relay what I know as I am making a documentary about it and yes all will be revealed with proof, undeniable proof!

Those of you who have tried to find holes in my story have not done so although you think that you have, which also amazes me!

Those of you who think that I have given away my identity and that of terry, red etc are seriously wrong! Yes all information is monitored but my telling this story is of no threat to them, this will become apparent as to why.

Things are going to get very interesting in coming months and you will all begin to understand what is going on, although you will not like it.

What you think you know of the universe, aliens and life on earth will be changed soon. You have been unaware of the things right under your noses!

The truth is technology exists beyond your wildest dreams and you have been left in the dark. You have been only let in on the mainstream and unfortunately you will never know the whole truth of this story.

As to the mods, thank you for keeping this thread going as it has been important. This is no hoax this is the truth, I cannot stress this enough.

This has opened something totally new up to me and I am making it my purpose to let the truth be known for all.

I will be releasing a documentary on the ATS media site for all to watch, I will release it not for profit and will remain free in the public domain.

This documentary will cover Moon mining, high technology, God, rare minerals, the grand plan of deception.

Bye for now.



[edit on 11-8-2010 by hornum]



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 07:26 PM
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I look forward to watching your work of fiction. How exactly do you plan on putting "undeniable proof" in a video? You must really think we are stupid. And thanks again for proving our point by saying the same things you have said over in over all of your posts, and leaving just like I said you would.

"This has opened something totally new up to me and I am making it my purpose to let the truth be known for all. " --- Only the 9,584th time this has been said on ATS.

Get some help.

[edit on 8/11/2010 by pjslug]



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 09:56 PM
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I still think Bigfoot should be included to complete this yarn.




posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 11:45 PM
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Ok, I'm giving this one up as a hoax now. If he was earnest, surely he would have not been so theatrical in presentation. If anyone was to believe any of it, it would have been easier to just state things frankly and with an objective outlook on it. Honestly, it is such an outlandish idea that you must seriously consider the possibility of having hallucinations about what you are seeing. It does sound a lot like the dream world intruding on the real world's perspective. Plus, the need to prove yourself on this forum is a sign of simply wanting attention, which is not what any person seriously interested in informing should do. I'll watch this video you are putting together, but unless you can link to real sources that can be verified by the sources themselves, yeah, no one will believe it. And also, this "soon it will be revealed anyway" crap is just that, crap.



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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Now your a film maker? Hornum, this thread has become almost as bad as half a B10w Job - WITH TEETH!!!

Seriously, you have not fulfilled your promises on this one simple thread and now we are left with having to wait for you to complete a documentary???

Aren't you the one who keeps saying that you have very little time available to write out postings and now you have time to produce a documentary?

Why is it that you can give "...proof, undeniable proof!" in this future documentary but deny all of us who have been following this thread from the very beginning?

This is truly disappointing. Hornum your not only a Fake but even worse - your a phony, Holden Caulfield phony, and it doesn't get any worse than that.

Since you have shown that you are inept at finalizing anything, I will not hold out much hope of you ever getting it together enough to finish a documentary.

As strange as this may sound: I do wish you the very best and sincerely hope you find what ever it is you are seeking.

To HORNUM - Some Parting Quotes From Some Very Wise Men:

“Faith... Must be enforced by reason...When faith becomes blind it dies.” - Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)

"It is impossible to go through life without trust: that is to be imprisoned in the worst cell of all, oneself." - Graham Greene (1904-1991)

"Trust men and they will be true to you; treat them greatly and they will show themselves great." - Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882)

"There is nothing in the world more shameful than establishing one's self on lies and fables." - Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe (1749-1832)

"A liar will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth." - Aesop (ca. 620-564 BC)

"And, after all, what is a lie? 'Tis but the truth in masquerade." - Lord Byron (1788-1824)

AND FINALLY, REGARDING THE HOLES IN YOUR STORY:
"As one knows the poet by his fine music, so one can recognize the liar by his rich rhythmic utterance, and in neither case will the casual inspiration of the moment suffice. Here, as elsewhere, practice must precede perfection."
- Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 01:54 AM
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I am no longer using this platform to relay what I know as I am making a documentary about it and yes all will be revealed with proof, undeniable proof!


Worthy of an applause. An elegant deflection to avoid having to continue the thread (with the risk of hoaxing) whilst remaining an ATS member.

In plainer terms...you've wriggled off the hook.



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 06:43 AM
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You amaze me! You are so much in denial you miss the things in life layed right in front of you, you are ignorant beyond belief! I have been coming back periodically to check the comments here and you are always putting in your two little cents, wake up! This is not fiction!


Well, if they were layed right in front of us, I believe someone would notice.
Requesting a proof from someone who claims such wild things as you, is hardly an ignorance. It's more like common-sense.



I am no longer using this platform to relay what I know as I am making a documentary about it and yes all will be revealed with proof, undeniable proof!


Undeniable proof, you say? And what would that be, interview with Terry wich extra footage of palm rock?
Also, I can't see, why weren't you able to present proof here, but you can do it in a documentary. Doesn't make sense.



Those of you who have tried to find holes in my story have not done so although you think that you have, which also amazes me!


Unfortunately, they did. But you're in denial. Which amazes me.
Just because you faile to explain the holes, doesn't mean they're not there.



Those of you who think that I have given away my identity and that of terry, red etc are seriously wrong! Yes all information is monitored but my telling this story is of no threat to them, this will become apparent as to why.


Aha, so you know the truth, they don't want people to know. They know who you are and you're making documentary that will reveal this truth to everyone, and yet you're not a threat? What, you have some secret pact with Gods of Light and they will protect you from those evil puppetiers?



Things are going to get very interesting in coming months and you will all begin to understand what is going on, although you will not like it.


Things seem pretty interesting to me right now.



The truth is technology exists beyond your wildest dreams and you have been left in the dark. You have been only let in on the mainstream and unfortunately you will never know the whole truth of this story.


Don't worry, I have no doubt that they don't tell us everything.
But aren't you the one who's gonna reveal the truth to us, poor ignorants?



I will be releasing a documentary on the ATS media site for all to watch, I will release it not for profit and will remain free in the public domain.

This documentary will cover Moon mining, high technology, God, rare minerals, the grand plan of deception.


Looking forward for your documentary.



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