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Originally posted by thedarktower
reply to post by PsychoX42
Are you serious? my name, is the dark tower, by which i am refering to the seven books wrote by one stephen king. Think Lost, only better and nothing to do with an island.
I repeat we dont need these video. Why? cause all i saw was a bunch of pictures and some writting, with a power ballad thrown in for good measure. Do you really think during times of revolution they were inspired by these types of videos? By the way, those 13 points you made have been happening and will continue to happen for centuries, unless we all do something together, yes i agree with you. But i just dont think a 8 minute video of this standard will get anyone to do anything, anywhere. Correct me if i am wrong
Originally posted by PsychoX42
reply to post by ATC_GOD
The fact that you can see no solutions in sight is representative of how the machine has conditioned you. It has taken your will to enact and made you apathetic and hopeless to create change. So, in effect, the machine has won against your will.
There's plenty that you can do, however, I don't want to be the one to inject solutions into you that you aren't willing to entertain. It would require work and dedication that most people aren't willing to sacrifice for. It would entail you giving up some of your comforts, your toys, and your entertainment. And, that's the problem with most Americans. They don't want to rock the boat or be an vehicle for change. They would rather keep their comforts and their stuff as opposed to fight for the rights for others to have the same.
You are only as powerless as you perceive yourself to be.
Namaste and Love
Originally posted by ATC_GOD
reply to post by PsychoX42
Have you even read the books?
Darkness and light? So darkness is evil? Really? And light is good right? Not really understanding where you are going with this..
Besides the message of the books are not that at all. They actually promote the very concept you defend... enlightenment...
Originally posted by ATC_GOD
Originally posted by PsychoX42
reply to post by ATC_GOD
The fact that you can see no solutions in sight is representative of how the machine has conditioned you. It has taken your will to enact and made you apathetic and hopeless to create change. So, in effect, the machine has won against your will.
There's plenty that you can do, however, I don't want to be the one to inject solutions into you that you aren't willing to entertain. It would require work and dedication that most people aren't willing to sacrifice for. It would entail you giving up some of your comforts, your toys, and your entertainment. And, that's the problem with most Americans. They don't want to rock the boat or be an vehicle for change. They would rather keep their comforts and their stuff as opposed to fight for the rights for others to have the same.
You are only as powerless as you perceive yourself to be.
Namaste and Love
Change requires action yes? My argument is how do you expect to exact change by emulating a monk sitting on a secluded mountain top alone sipping herbal tea and eating rice cakes? (as the video suggests)
Originally posted by Amagnon
This really is a piece of crap video. I guess maybe some people find what it is saying appropriate - you are this and that.
Sorry - no I am not - pure rubbish, very fkn annoying.
Originally posted by Namaste1001
We are up against a very difficult task in that the Powers that Be have convinced the masses that utopia can not exist on this planet, in this form, in this lifetime, in this dimension, and people truly do believe that.
Originally posted by ATC_GOD
reply to post by PsychoX42
I am pretty sure the majority of the world is well aware of your list of issues... As far as doing something about it? What would you propose we do? Go to the White House lawn and asume the positions of the cat and the cow? Come on!!!
Let me point this little tidbit out as well while we are engaged in this productive discourse.
What do you think the population could really do to overthrow the government that YOU feel is causing all this strife under our noses even if they wanted to hmmm?
What do you think would happen should the entire US population, or even 20 percent, 10 percent, ect were to revolt? You think those individuals would win such an fight?
If you do you are a fool...sorry to be so blunt but reality is the US military is the most powerful and deadly force on the planet. They have missles that will bust through multiple walls and turn you into hair, teeth and eyeballs (shot from a boat 200 miles away) whilst you are reading your Maxim taking a poop with pinpoint precision.
Oh and lets not forget all the civil servants in riot gear with tear gas.. You got any of that laying around the house?
I constantly read on this site...stand up and fight!!! Bring down the tyranny that is the US government! They are horrible! They run our lives!!
Do they really run your life? Because they don't run mine... I pretty much do what I want, have a wonderful family and feel blessed each and every day to be so lucky to live in such a great nation!
Are folks at the top corrupt? Of course they are....it goes with the territory of having so much power at your fingertips.. But short some sort of AI developed to run the world that has no sense of power or greed, we are stuck with that to some extent....power corrupts
The End.
Originally posted by thedarktower
"Oh yeah...I'm serious. Tell me, what does Stephen King represent? What types of stories does he sell? And tell me, does Stephen King represent darkness or light? And, if Stephen King sells pain, glorifies demonic material, and is typically a horror writer, then what does that say about what you consume?
Just a thought.
And you can tell me that these videos aren't needed all day if you choose. However, I think there's a deeper reason why you choose to disavow its message.
Bye now"
Namaste and Love [/quote
Listen psychoX42, i expect this kind of answer on youtube, thats why i didnt respond to it there. If ever i say something about these typical video i am always told the same thing, "wake up" or "you will one day understand". Wake up from what? understand what? i clearly understand alot more than you do. I come to ATS to have a serious debate, not to be flamed for my user name
[edit on 9-7-2010 by thedarktower]
[edit on 9-7-2010 by thedarktower]