BP - 128 workers sick, not allowed to report to state health clinics

Originally posted by burntheships
BP is covering up workers falling ill, and there are independent scientists that are now speaking out against BPs negligent actions in Louisiana.

What they are not telling you is that exposure to Corexit does not make you sick immediately, it can take 10 days to sicken you or kill you.

www.youtube.com...

Well if that's the case, then expect Lawsuits to follow. There has been a massive Lawsuit here in Australia against James Hardie for the use of Asbestos in the Fibro sheets they used in the building of their houses during the last century, and James Hardie were ordered to pay MASSIVE amounts of compensation.

Hell, even the Board of Directors weren't immune to Lawsuits - www.smh.com.au...

Originally posted by rockhndr
This whole thread is ridiculous....No one can stop you from seeing your own Dr....but your employer CAN ask that you see their Dr. as well...confusing things much??

Meh...

Star for you!
As mad as I am at BP, I think this is simply a way for them to pay for the treatment directly. They are trying to take care of people without paying outrageous hospital bills.

Now on the other hand, all of these workers should be in 1/2 masks with carbon vapor/particulate (yellow/purple) filters. Problem is they need to breathe. Now the price of protection goes up to provide cool air to breathe, so it does not happen. This is an OSHA issue, and notice how they have turned away from these OSHA violations. You see, when something like this (sickness) happens, the level of personal protection equipment (PPE) goes up. Not in this case.

The secondary cause of the sickness problem is our own OSHA. This is what is bothering me.

Originally posted by loam
reply to post by Dumbass

 

How will our democracy die?

Clearly not with a bang, but a whimper.

nobody will notice when democracy is dead...governments are slowly removing it bit by bit so the majority of the public dont realise untill its all gone.

most of the ATS and other conspiracy communities notice and they all talk of a revolution but there will never be enough people collectively to revolt.

the majority of the public are too ignorant to spot a corrupt government or do anything about it if they do.

reply to post by rockhndr


You really need a "special pass to gain access" in order to sell a pic or vid of a celed ? I dont believe that. Everybody is a cop (citizen arrest) and everybody is a reporter (constitution) ... but hey i'm not a specialist on US lagislation.

Maybe your right, but the only thing confurting about this GOM disaster is people bringing good unfilter footage.

What if this person in the ambulance is a citizen with no relation to BP / GOM. He/she gonna need all the help he/she can get if sick like the workers. I would be happy to have someone watching my back.

reply to post by truthy-bird


Maybe I spoke in haste or didn't use the proper words...A celeb already puts themselves out there to BE photographed...yet they CAN stop pics or videos from being sold...touche to you, but that's not what happened here...this woman was blatantly crossing the line by trying to take video of a person being treated in an ambulance of all places!!! What if it were your child as a drowning victim, or even yourself in a heart attack or worse type situation? Would you really want someone putting that on youtube??

You have brought to my attention to speak more carefully in the future!! LOL...Now, do I think the public has a right to know about BP and what's going on with the situation?? Of course!! But trying to zoom in on a private citizen who has no idea they're being video recorded while recieving medical attention just crosses a line...maybe it just has to do with morals or respect...I do understand what you mean about having someones back, and if that's the case the person should speak for themselves, or if they can't, for family members to do so....not some stranger to make a judgement call on their behalf.....

Great job by these women. It's good to see people personally going out to see what is really going on with the spill and the clean-up efforts. I am in Cape Coral in SW Florida and assure you if and when it gets here, I'll personally be out there seeing what the deal is and shooting video. Take action people.

good one xstealth. but we need to find another site to put videos. as youtube has given in to the government. people who do this kind of filming need to make a script before hand. she should have taken his badge number and ask’t his boss why he was doing that. sent them a video. need to find out how far they can legaly move you back from an accident?

reply to post by JBA2848


As I've always said, Anybody can be bought all you have to do is
find that amount.

MMS, they were Bought
Politicians, they were bought to approve drilling in the Gulf
And the Police were bought to Protect and Serve BP

What's your price to turn a blind eye?

Well...where is the first Vid..kinda off topic with the woman and the law enforcement officer guess everyone got side tracked...makes you wonder if thats everyones problem..not sticking to the main topic instead of mongering over this lady and the cop....wonder what the vid was?

FYI...what I have seen is BP monopolise the whole situation...its like the governement is spending time on the massive population movements ahead and told BP to clean it up and deal with it since government would have so much to deal with by way of moving people out of the gulf coast.

Apparently the threat is this:

If a BP worker sees a public DR, BP will revoke their health insurance.

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you guys are supposed to be the mods for this thread.

the original OP has absolutely no substance becuase the supposed video does not exsist.

why is the thread not closed?

Originally posted by Reconer
Well...where is the first Vid..kinda off topic with the woman and the law enforcement officer guess everyone got side tracked...makes you wonder if thats everyones problem..not sticking to the main topic instead of mongering over this lady and the cop....wonder what the vid was?

OK here guys, here is a new video with BP's idiotic DR who says, he doesn't know why people are getting sick and BP isn't preventing them from seeing their own Drs.

I've read that BP will revoke their health insurance if that happens.

reply to post by xstealth


it says video have been removed by the user, from the original post

coincidence? or conspiracy?

i'd like to see the video ifanyone can find it again

[edit on 7/8/2010 by indigothefish]

[edit on 7/8/2010 by indigothefish]

When I talked to my state representative, he urged me to put a few of my ideas at America Speaking Out.
Here's a link to one of mine about the BP crisis
www.americaspeakingout.com... rd-in-her-duties-a

It could use some support. I believe that this particular idea is relevant to this topic.

I am afraid with Coast Guard Petty Officer Polish being BOTH PR a PR person for BP, AND media liaison for the Coast Guard is the sort of conflict of interest that might be pivotal in keeping good press coverage out of the gulf and facilitating cover ups of evolving issues, like people getting sick. LIKE methane levels.

Other ideas I have taken to my congressman that I've also listed here are pretty simple and concrete - get the mud logs and the formula for corexit.

The thing is, BP doesn't REALLY have the power to do all this - does anyone KNOW of any laws that says BP can walk all over everyone? Nah, they are doing it...with MONEY. If I worked at BP and got sick, I could go to any doc I wanted, but I might have to quit or get fired first, eh?

US govt probably is too scared AND lazy to deal with it, and all our policemen and security officers in the gulf area are just wanting their land clean, and working to do what BP says probably seems like the best way.

We need a bit of separation of power here though - not real power, but assumed. Getting folks with conflicts of interest out of the way is a good start, if for nothing else, just to show that the US public isn't going to stand for that sort of complicity.

isnt this a minimal thread
remove this peace of garbage

Originally posted by StarTraveller
Just watched the video above and to be honest a couple of things stick out at me. For one the officer came and asked politely for the lady to move back but she persisted and started arguing with him. Then she started getting louder and went on about her rights. Now I am not taking sides here but I think she was a little cheeky approaching the Ambulance unit with video cam in hand, I am a paramedic and would not be too pleased to have someone around the doors of my unit trying to video what’s going on. I am not 100% up on emergency policy in the states but it is my understanding that a fire unit attends medical emergencies too so the whole thing maybe someone that’s just plain not well. Patient confidentiality is important and I think in this instance that’s what was important here. I am not saying that the Police had the right to move the lady along but surely the fact that someone is receiving medical assistance and is clearly in distress means she should move along and not create a scene.
This is just my view on what I have seen and how I interpreted the video. Her problems began when she approached the Ambulance unit and not before. She doesn’t need to know what’s going on (back to patient confidentiality again) but she persisted in saying she should know the truth and to be honest in this instance it’s none of her business.

Please do not think I am trying to discredit the video or the OP but as above, this is how I see the video speaking from an HCP perspective.

Chris

I agree with you completely. Although I'd like to add a couple of things. This woman seems to assume that the clean up worker is sick. Implying that it's from the oil contamination. Why couldn't he just be injured? There's a difference between being sick and being injured. People hurt themselves all the time. Anything could have happened to him..he may have stepped on a rake and broke his nose for all we know.

And it just might be the the sick or injured person in the ambulance was aware of the camera and asked for them to be moved along. I know that I wouldn't want someone filming me if I was in the back of an ambulance under any level of distress.

And the last thing that I wanted to mention was the fact that these guys had their badges turned backwards. There's 2 possibilities here both being more than reasonably possible.

1. I've worked in buildings where I, along with everyone else in the company was required to wear a badge and for it to be visible. Sometimes they just get turned around on their own..like when you bend over to pick up that pen that you happened to drop.

2. Maybe they didn't want someone to film their faces along with a badge showing their name...just incase said person uploaded it onto youtube and made out as though they were trying to hide something from the American public.

I'm just saying.

Another link to the video by CNN here:

www.floridaoilspilllaw.com...

OK...the above CNN interview with BP's Medical Leader was what I expected. He did seem reasonable...didnt sound like he was lying (at least outright) and he was forthcoming with some of the information I was wondering about.

The thing is...typically leaders and department heads like himself arnt getting the GRUNT information from the medical personel treating people out in the field...looks to me like he's by and office and is a pawn in sitting back to give these types of "Per Policy" "By the book" explinations for what is going on medically with how they are handeling the medical issues.

One thing that caught my eye was real serious. The reported obvously did some reasonable investigative research (finally) asking him about the Exon Valdez oil spill in Alaska (I think thats where it was) There was a thred about it also reinforcing some of what he said....Almost all the worker are either dead or very sick and or close to dying from the cleanup effort from the Exon spill. The reporter said "Out of 11,000 people studied in the Exon oil spill cleanup some 6,000 became sick." Then he obviously said "Long term, short term,...."

So if we could find a number on approximately how many relief workers there are...we could say at least 1/2 will get sick..."There are no current studies of oil spill sicknesses..."Well whatever that study was is what were going off of...doesnt look very good. 50% chance of dying or being a life long casualty of radiation/oil sickness isnt good odds. I think if these workers new those numbers we would have a hell of a time cleaning this stuff up...no one would do it. But hands are tied because like they said "This is the only jobs we have around here..." (Cleanup effort) Not worth the health risks....at 50% !!!!!

Here's a link to a good artical on the Exxon Valdez workers illness info...

www.syracuse.com...

This caught my eye...

"Court records showed more than 6,700 workers involved in the Exxon Valdez clean up suffered respiratory problems which the company attributed to a viral illness, not chemical poisoning. Dennis Mestas represented the only known worker to successfully settle with Exxon over health issues. According to the terms of that confidential settlement, Exxon did not admit fault.

His client, Gary Stubblefield, spent four months lifting workers in a crane for 18 hours a day as they sprayed the oil-slicked beaches with hot water, which created an oily mist. Even though he had to wipe clean his windshield twice a day, Stubblefield said it never occurred to him that the mixture might be harming his lungs.

Within weeks, he and others, who wore little to no protective gear, were coughing and experiencing other symptoms that were eventually nicknamed Valdez crud. Now 60, Stubblefield cannot get through a short conversation without coughing and gasping for breath like a drowning man. He sometimes needs the help of a breathing machine and inhalers, and has to be careful not to choke when he drinks and eats.

Watching the Gulf situation unfold, he says, makes him sick. “I just watch this stuff everyday and know these people are on the very first rung on the ladder and are going to go through a lot of misery,” said Stubblefield, who now lives in Prescott, Ariz."

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This video is just the beginning. This is a Podunk cop who looks like he spends his paychecks at Krispy Kreme. I would hate to see what real cops are going to act like as things slowly degrade, and they will degrade.