Photo of Alien in Aviation Week magazine!

reply to post by Silver Star


Can anyone accurately explain 'anything' in one or two sentences?
Are not symbols more accurate than the word of man, a human construct?
Perspective Is from where you stand.

All truth is as a pyramid.
It builds upon itself or crashes upon it's creation.

I suppose there is a Reason for pyramids found throughout the Earth as well as the cosmos. A pyramid is unto a place as a fractal is to the 'flower of life'.

reply to post by getreadyalready

The circle with the cross in it? That is where the clamps from the Movie crane grab on to move it from set to set.

Sorry, I don't see any cross in it.

And you know what? I'd bet you if you were confronted by some alien being, right in front of you, you would still try and find some way to debunk what your own eyes are seeing.

I have not once said this image is real or not. I, just like everyone else am trying to analyze the photograph, but people like you just make make it impossible.

Sometimes I really wonder what the hell I'm even doing on this site.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Tripple_Helix

 

Come on guys? Pores? Hairs? Veins? OK? So what? If I was going to make a realistic model of an alien, I would make it look....well....realistic?

And yet the best that the movie industry at the time was E.T.?
I would put this "model" up against E.T. and guess which one would win the most realistic alien contest?

You're so sure it can be reproduced go right ahead, debunk this, but until then it is ignorant to label this as a hoax.

reply to post by Tripple_Helix


Of course I would....wouldn't you?

If an alien approached you in the driveway, would your first response be, oh sh*t an alien, or would it be, what the h*ll is that, and why is it in my driveway?

I have almost 37 years of life experience, and aliens have not been a significant part of it, so when I am confronted with a situation I look at the most common explanations first, then I branch out, then I branch out some more, I traverse pranks, hoaxes, then science, then religion, then maybe, just maybe, I arrive at aliens as the explanation. I certainly do not start there.

Any other evaluation process, IMHO, is ludicrous. Why jump to the least logical solution and then work backwards to a mildly plausible one.

Kind of like Occams Hammer instead of Occams Razor isn't it?

reply to post by Just Wondering


I have to cede the ET point, but I don't think ET was the best alien model at the time. Someone already mentioned Yoda, but I am not sure of the difference in time period.

Also, remember ET was for moving pictures, aka movies. This is just a photograph with ideal situations set up for the photo, multiple attempts to get it just right, no need for joints or movement, and probably an extended period of prep time for the money shot.

A little off-topic, and probably in support of your point rather than mine:
Wakulla Springs is a few miles from me. 3rd largest Freshwater Spring in the world, largest in the US, preserved in prehistoric unadulterated condition, and the setting for Tarzan and Creature from the Black Lagoon movies. Yesterday the family and I went on a boat tour there, and the tour captain was talking about the "Creatures" Hollywood costume. Apparently it was made from foam rubber, and a lot of the scenes were underwater scenes. This posed a problem when the actor could not get underwater because of all the buoyancy!! Hollywood types!

reply to post by getreadyalready


And the spider monkeys (from the tarzan set) found on the river of which escaped their cages during a hurricane add to the scenery quite well.
Do you know what I mean?

Make it count folks.
Take Care.....

reply to post by Just Wondering


You have a photo from the movie "Aliens" and you claim the best the movie industry could do was ET?

Thats selectively looking at evidence if I've ever seen it.

I don't understand the hoopla behind this photo. Honestly I don't, sure it looks lifelike but so does the one I posted in the Bugles ad, its a freaking advertisement, for oil no less.

I can't draw the same connections you all do that relates this to "ET disclosure".

It's an advertisement.

What makes people even assume this could be a real alien? Just the fact that it "could" be? All manner of things are possible, do we entertain every possibility in the world just cause it hasn't been proven to be something else?

No

Noone on here is say the tv show ALF was the real story of a family who lived with a real alien, show me proof that it isn't.

Its ridiculous.

And people wonder why UFO enthusiasts get laughed at, its situations like this, where you need "proof" that this is just an advertisement.

reply to post by FlySolo

You have a long way to go to debunk this one.

Uhh I just provided some more links on the story.

Care to show me where I said I debunked it?

wow this alien has his own trading cars from the 1960's.





And a movie made from it in the late 80's wil the name MARS ATTACKS

reply to post by rodebert


Thank you for casting some light on the photo rodebert - I was surprised at what the shadows were hiding.

reply to post by bestideayet


Got to be a fake - aliens are supposed to be uber smart, and this one had his nose done by Michael Jackson's doctor. What a dummy. (*no way it's still "too soon"!*)

Originally posted by Perseus Apex
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

And the spider monkeys (from the tarzan set) found on the river of which escaped their cages during a hurricane add to the scenery quite well.
Do you know what I mean?

Make it count folks.
Take Care.....

LOL! Either History or Discovery Channel recently had an episode about a Florida chimp population, and wouldn't you know it, one of the top places they looked was right around that spring?

I didn't see any though. Lots of Gators out yesterday, several really large 10 ft + ones.

Now if you wanna talk about Aliens. I contend that Mullet are aliens! A fish with a Gizzard that jumps WAY out of the water, sometimes right in the boat, and is equally comfortable in Fresh or Salt water, and doesn't have a top (dorsal?) fin. Those things are definitely aliens!

Awe come on people! How anyone can say they are serious about this and be so easily fooled is beyond me.

Artists were not capable! You have got to be kidding! ET was the best an artist could do! Utter nonsense!

First this is a still, not an animation. ET was for an animation. Apples and Oranges.

Second, sculpting skills are at this level and beyond for thousands of years.

What you would be looking at in this case is a Sculpey Clay model more than likely. Very commonly used for this sort of thing for many decades. The level of detail and realism would be up to the artist and their skill level.

As others pointed out the photo itself is dead give away. That is a model shot in a light box under diffused lighting. No real Alien would be photographed that way.

Just because you want it to be real, heck, I want it to be real, does not make it real. It just makes people look gullible and drives this whole topic into the tinfoil universe.

If there were not so many people on here who think using and stealing peoples copyrighted works is OK, I'd post some examples that you literally could not tell from a real photograph. Do your own searches and you will find that you will be dealing with photo's before long that even experts can not debunk. People need to get used to the truth.

Ask yourself, are you looking for real evidence or are you just playing games? From the posts lately many of you are playing games.

Looks fake to me, looks drawn and painted.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by FlySolo

 

You have a long way to go to debunk this one.

Uhh I just provided some more links on the story.

Care to show me where I said I debunked it?

You got the wrong person. But while you're at it, thanks for admitting you didn't debunk it for the record.

How can anyone believe this is real? Seriously.

There's tens of thousands of graphic designers capable of drawing something like that.

Originally posted by Elmer_Dinkley
I had the Amoco Alien pic as my avatar before the site was updated.
In my opinion this is the real deal,it`s the moisture in the eyes, and
the skin texture that get me everytime,there have been other threads
on ATS concerning the picture before.
here is a better quality pic
forgetomori.com...

...but the link you quoted said it was part of a viral-type ad campaign for AMOCO gas.

Originally posted by ThaLoccster
reply to post by Just Wondering

 

I thought it was a pretty funny tongue-in-cheek reply to what's taking place in this thread.

And since this photo NEVER appeared in Aviation Weekly, and the guy who presented this evidence as fact, William Cooper, either doesn't know, or continues to say the same, at this point, lie...should speak to his credibility, and the credibility of the whole issue.

Here, is the actual magazine the article was in.

Its weird what 2 minutes and search will get you.

www.flightglobal.com...

Don't let people ignoring facts dissuade you. No, this ADVERTISEMENT is proof aliens exist.

Exactly.


As I said above, and as 'loner007" pointed out back on pack one of this thread, that picture is from an advertisement for Amoco "Thornel Advanced Composites".

The image was was on page 32 of the magazine, and the ad's text was on page 33 -- so they were on facing pages, which would make sense for a 2-page advertisement (picture on the left-hand page, text on the right-hand page). Plus, the image was right in the middle of an article starting on page 30 and ending on page 34 (an article on the application of Ceramics in aviation), so obviously it was not a
part of anything else except the advertisement.

reply to post by Just Wondering


Well just like forge link sais, the model for "ET" had a similar level of detail.

The problem is that no evidence has come public to prove it's a model (be it clay or whatever). Obviously, the thing was probably created for the infamous ad on page 51.

According to the forge site posted by Chadwickus, one person apparently claimed to have the photographic proof that the model was fake but never came forward after that.

We may never know for sure. Hence, the mystery and the following!

IMO, the thing was probably a clay model that was immediately destroyed afterwards for the specic purpose of the image being immortalized for the "Aviation Week" magazine title.

-ChriS

reply to post by FlySolo


Yes, I did get the wrong person, my bad.

I was going to reply to you as well since you seemingly jumped on me for supposedly debunking it too.

And no I never said this was debunked or a hoax...