UFO caught heading into tornado. Amazing footage *Video*

Originally posted by loam
reply to post by greeneyedleo

 

I'm curious, since this is in Oklahoma, can anyone find a species of white bird that would fit the bill?

www.birdsofoklahoma.net...
Sea gull, heron or crane might do.

reply to post by Pauligirl


it was a penguin i it!




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Could be a bird, could be an insect. Could be a flec of dust or debris passing infront of the camera.

The camera focus is set on the tornado in the distance. Anything moving in front of the camera, and closer to the camerman would appear to be moving much faster, and would also be blurred.

I would lean 95% towards a rational explanation such as bird or insect on this one.

Not everything is a UFO, no matter how much people want to believe.

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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

Originally posted by Droogie
Hi everyone, this is my first post on ATS, so be gentle.

that has to be the stupidest thing i've ever read!
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Stupid Source/Link: www.belowtopsecret.com...

Welcome To ATS!!! Glad You Joined!!

So my point is that the footage will remain to be inconclusive and it will have to be substantiated from the alleged sources before we can move closer to a somewhat definite answer. And that it's not very productive to continue to speculate about the footage by itself.

thank you for sharing

End Transmission,
ET

Thanks for the warm welcome

Hi community.


I'm very carefull on how I state my opinion on this.


But I do see how others see it as a flapping bird as well.

I personally also think this guy over rated his exposure on himself being a witness/filming this because this is a FAR CRY from a smoking gun and the news/tabloids were hounding him..??

I think he over played it??

To me at first sounded like a a few high school kids in a car.

This case seems a little loose to me.

Great the poster shared this,so all is rightous..

And I know some experts here as well gave their opinions but it still seems a far cry from an ET or alien ship craft.

And when he states'NEWS CREWS" AND THE MEDIA WAS ALL OVER THIS???


I could be wrong but I dont buy overly into this.

A streak in video doesnt cut much weight for me..

Yes,,I know it appears it 360'd or such and did a turn,,but quite useless,,and no,,I beleive in ET's but this is far from pay dirt..

Thanks for sharing and I apologize if Im wrong.

K

reply to post by greeneyedleo


Thanks for providing the link to Valhall's interview. There is clearly some discrepancies with the interviewee as Valhall has pointed out.

I did find the sound of the video very important, because it seems the primary conversation (not the post added commentary) about the storm seems semi-scripted as if they knew something was about to pass in front of the camera. "I'm talking about that right there" supposedly referring to the funnel while clearly they had a secondary subject on their agenda not being shared with the anticipated viewers.

However, I disagree with your bird analysis. I believe what you are seeing as flapping wings is just a camera artifact caused by the camera having to slow of a shutter speed. The same effect that created the "Rods" illusion - that is multiple object captures in some frames. (I know birds do it too, but I saw no telltale corkscrew wing effect.)

As far as the object traveling 9-16 thousand miles per hour. It seems none of the experts were willing to put that in writing or in an interview, so all we have is the author's claim that they did. Hogwash. Besides without a frame of reference for distance, any claims of speed or size is irrelevant.

UFO - uh huh. Actually I think it is a flying saucer. Probably made by Hasbro or whoever makes Frisbees or their knock offs these days.


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not a problem & welcome to ats. your very first day!

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I'm enjoying my first day as a registered member very much, and I thank you and maybe....maybe not for welcoming me. I'll try to be engaged in topics that I believe I can contribute in a constructive fashion, and try to give some guidance regarding other topics. But I'll stay on topic for the most of it. Sorry for not being constructive right now, but I think I'm entitled to say thanks to the first people that appreciates my joining here.

PS: Your hypnotic .gif works very well.

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Well, I don't know whether we can gather enough evidence from this video to prove that was a "alien air craft", but it certainly is a UFO (unidentified flying object)

It is funny that lot of us seem to have forgotten the real meaning of UFO...

However, I'm not ready to believe this is a bird either. Whatever that was, it was moving way too fast.. and I don't see enough stormy wind around (by observing trees and stuff) that would make anything throw that fast. And the object was moving on a good straight line as well...

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Little Kona…..

Hi community.

Hi Little Kona!

I'm very carefull on how I state my opinion on this.

That’s more than some people are doing on here!

But I do see how others see it as a flapping bird as well.

I can understand the ”bird” position on this, but I’m having trouble visualizing the ”flapping”.

I personally also think this guy over rated his exposure on himself being a witness/filming this because this is a FAR CRY from a smoking gun and the news/tabloids were hounding him..??

I agree!

As per my previous posts & those of FOXMULDER147 & greeneyedleo, this is all looking a little convenient & therefore a little contrived.

I think he over played it??

Yes…..”I think he over played it”

To me at first sounded like a a few high school kids in a car.

I think that aspect is OK…..some of those storm chasers really get into it! I know I would!

This case seems a little loose to me.

Yes…..”The case seems a little loose to me”.

Great the poster shared this,so all is rightous..

Well, that’s the great thing about ATS…..we all get the opportunity to “deep dive” into these cases!

And I know some experts here as well gave their opinions but it still seems a far cry from an ET or alien ship craft.

Unfortunately, it IS looking less & less like ”an ET or alien ship craft”.

And when he states'NEWS CREWS" AND THE MEDIA WAS ALL OVER THIS???

I agree…..the ”NEWS CREWS AND THE MEDIA” were not ”ALL OVER THIS”.

I could be wrong but I dont buy overly into this.

I think you probably NOT ”wrong”…..& ”I don’t buy overy into this”, either.

A streak in video doesnt cut much weight for me..

The problem is, EVERYTHING rests on that ”streak”.

Yes,,I know it appears it 360'd or such and did a turn

Do you mean the reference to the object in the “top left corner” & then the “top right corner”? If so, I couldn’t see that…..& I looked many times.

,,but quite useless,,and no,,I beleive in ET's but this is far from pay dirt..

Unfortunately, I agree.

Thanks for sharing and I apologize if Im wrong.

Thank YOU for sharing & I don’t think you’re wrong!

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not


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Droogie…..

I'm enjoying my first day as a registered member very much

Fantastic!

and I thank you and maybe....maybe not for welcoming me.

The pleasure is all mine!

I'll try to be engaged in topics that I believe I can contribute in a constructive fashion

In your own way, you already are.

and try to give some guidance regarding other topics.

Some people around here strongly RESIST guidance…..& there often the one’s that need it the most!

But I'll stay on topic for the most of it.

I’m sure you will!

Sorry for not being constructive right now

Like I said, I think that in your own way, you are!

but I think I'm entitled to say thanks to the first people that appreciates my joining here.

Like I said…..

You are very welcome & I will add you to my friend’s list!

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not

ok i have been readin articles on here awhile an this thread made me wanna post my 1st comment....

i read alot of comments and i think a few images have been overlooked

if you watch the top(10 o clock position:puz at 3:15-3:18 you see a object flying visibly starting from about the middle of the screen to the top of the lighter color clouds then you lose visibility b/c of the darker clouds...

then,from 3:22-3:26 you see an obvious object fly across the screen from right to left....

-in my opinion those are birds....

BUT the object from 3:42-3:45 (once again my opinion) cant be a bird...its obviously movin at a high speed and angled away from the camera AN NOT panning directly past the cam....

im very opened minded but also a-dont believe it until i see it-type of person an this video its def interesting an should be analyzed more...i tried going to the HQ version but www.oklahomaexpeditions.com is shut down?? hmmmmm

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Little_Kona

But I do see how others see it as a flapping bird as well.

I can understand the ”bird” position on this, but I’m having trouble visualizing the ”flapping”.

I don't really see the "flapping", but the flight path is bird-like or insect-like in the way it bobs up and down just a little.

I don't know if anyone else commented on this, but if you look closely at 3:23-3:25 there is a bird on the top left that goes into the clouds and you can clearly tell it's a bird. The main object goes a heck of a lot faster than the bird, and unless it is an eagle I do not think birds can go that fast, and even eagles only reach top speeds in a descent which the object clearly wasn't doing. I'm not saying this is a UFO for sure, but I'm pretty sure it isn't a bird.

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Mtdaze…..

ok i have been readin articles on here awhile an this thread made me wanna post my 1st comment....

Congratulations upon your 1st comment!

BUT the object from 3:42-3:45 (once again my opinion) cant be a bird...its obviously movin at a high speed and angled away from the camera AN NOT panning directly past the cam....

I think the object is much closer to the camera than you might think, thereby causing an extreme “forced perspective” effect on the object & the flight path.

im very opened minded but also a-dont believe it until i see it-type of person an this video its def interesting an should be analyzed more...i tried going to the HQ version but www.oklahomaexpeditions.com is shut down?? Hmmmmm

If you read the material posted by FOXMULDER147, greeneyedleo & me, you will see there is an extremely “dodgy” side to this.

I think there is a very strong likelihood that Lamphere is willfully misrepresenting this film to build his own media profile.

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Little_Kona

But I do see how others see it as a flapping bird as well.

I can understand the ”bird” position on this, but I’m having trouble visualizing the ”flapping”.

I don't really see the "flapping", but the flight path is bird-like or insect-like in the way it bobs up and down just a little.

Soylent Green Is People.....

I don't really see the "flapping", but the flight path is bird-like or insect-like in the way it bobs up and down just a little.

I agree.....

That.....plus the forced perspective produce the appearance in the film.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

what we may really need for some measure of closure disclosure is a new perspective from their point of view (ufo manufacturing inc.)

forget ufologists...

UFOPIAN CIVILIZATION?

folks, you heard it here first. and i'm copyrighting that word. no one else can use it without paying me 1 star.

UFOPIAN: (U-FOE-PEE-ON). noun,verb,adjetive,adverb.
Government and/or Civilization capable of producing aircraft labelled "UFOs" by any single observer or group of observers.
etymological origin: Circa July 4th, 2010.
Country Of Origin: A.T.S.

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thanks i appreciate the warm welcome...idk maybe insect def not bird its just very hard to judge the distance...

BUT, how would an object go past the cam an lose visual in the clouds if it wasnt moving fast?

ball lightning?

lol...at those people who know deep down this is not a bird or insect...if it was a bird it would not move as fast as it did...you have to stop the video in order to see it...if the bird was close to the camera it would have noticeable features that would give it away that it is a bird.. I have not seen an insect that flashes at that speed where you have to stop the frames even when close to the camera which it is not.if it was close to camera like a bird it would be easy to see that it is an insect with its noticeable wings or other insect features

Anyone who studies UFO's would know that many strange occurances have been around Thunder/Lightning Storms.

Personally, I do NOT think it was a bird or an insect, certainly a UFO. Possibly weather related. Maybe some kind of natural phenomena we don't see often or know of yet.

Don't tell me that those experts could calculatye these sizes and speeds when in fact it was just a bird. No WAY!!!

Good thread. S&F.



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