4 sale

Coffins for Americans ...

Beer, plenty of beer. Oh yes, russian vodka as well. Can't go on without the beer. Mmmmmm Beeeeeer.

[edit on 19-10-2004 by jmilici]

OMG how could we forget teh beer >_>

I've got $1000 ready and waiting, any other takers for a group buy?

a ATS HQ and a party boat

Having fun children and second childhood (ren?)

The sales story was true. Someone in the Brazilian MoD was desperate to sell. Heard they got thier arse kicked.

Brazil brought the former French carrier "Foch" and refurbished her. She is about twice as big as Mineas Gerias and is now called the Sao Paulo. They have two dozen ex Kuwaiti A-4Ms flying off her.

HMAS Vengeance was on loan with the RAN 1952 to 55 when her crew sailed to take delivery of HMAS Melbourne.

Vengeance was a slightly smaller earlier Collossus Class carrier to the Melbourne's modified Majestic Class Carrier specs before she was modified.

Jez, if she was still in steaming condition and the US had some spare Harrier IIs we could put her back into the RAN cheap for a year or two until be purchased one of those small Spanish built jobs.

Hey it would suit our needs regionally. Wishful thinking. I'm old enough to remember when Melbourne was in commission.

And what is it with the Chinese and old carriers.

They have the incomplete Varyag, the old Melbourne and four Kievs all supposedly for scrap or floating casinos/funparks/family hotels....one is supposedly a funpark/museum in a mainland PRC port......is it a case of keeping up with the Jones...or in this case Wangs.

There is talk they may finish and commission Varyag as a carrier, at least to train up a crew. Also that they have a 40,000 carrier under construction, for launch 2005 and commission 2010.

Are there any Carriers privately owned in the world ?

and ive heard of a restaraunt somewhere in world inside of a aircraft carrier is this true ?

[edit on 20-10-2004 by Kenshin]

Well there are one or two (or three) museum ships in the USA

One of the post war super carriers was recently moved into place.

I think a modernised Essex WW2 carrier has been doing the museum detail in NY (?) for a decade or more.

An Iwo Jima class Assault carrier was being used as a commercial heliport a few years back...again I think that was NY.

In China of course those ships.

And recently the future of the former French Carrier Clemanceau was in doubt. She had been sold for breaking up but the deal fell through and she was marooned (off Greece I think) awaiting a new buyer.

Its always sad when an old ship like that goes to the breakers.

HMAS Melbourne broke her tow line on the way to China in 1985. Most of the former sailors had wished she wrecked on the NSW coast, but they got a line on her in the end.

The romantics said she wanted to go out on a bang.