Most People Don't Care

I feel the same way and get frustrated. My biggest concern right now is the use of dispersants by BP.. this is making a 3-5 year clean up a 10-15 year clean up, plus it makes the oil more toxic than it is by itself. They are just making things worst in the Gulf, not better. I just keep sending emails to the congress, white house, and environmental groups.

Here is a good, must read article on dispersants that I found on one of the threads:

Whistle blower to testify on oil spill worst fear:BP deliberately sinks oil with Corexit as cover up

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The only consolation, if it can be called that, is that the majority of humans have always been stupid and in fact literacy and education in the developed world is easily at the highest level in history, staggering as that may seem.

Read Lincoln's stories about growing up as a young child...By age six, most children in his town were barefoot, working 12 hours a day in the local coal mine and well on their way to dying of black-lung, and swilling whiskey like water just to make it through the day. Go back 500 yearsa nd the picture was even grimmer. Only a tiny minority of humans had ever even *seen* a book other than the Bible on the local priest's lecturn...if the priest himself could afford and/or read one, that is.

Compared to all that, most of us aren't doing so bad.

Well,apparently most people know and understand there are other pressing issues worldwide other than what is happening in a small portion of it.

The population of this planet pretty much does not care if it effects a few thousand people.

The people of the gulf coast just has to deal with it.

I am not losing any sleep over it,myself.

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LOL.. just have to ask, are you a Christian?

is there a difference between caring and feeling bad?
i feel bad for teh animals that died sure
but do i care ? not really.

Well speaking from a British point of view, I feel and most of my European friends concur, that The White House and Congress are playing the blame game, yet the US Government has missed the whole point, accidents happen when extracting, transporting and refining oil, yet if this had happened off the British, French or Spanish coast then the government would be the leading the clean up efforts, not whining to the press and holding hearings, there is a time for this, once the oil has been cleaned up.

Why is the US so keen for BP alone to clean up this mess, and why is the federal government just washing its hands of it, is it because they know there is no way to halt this terrible disasters and wishes BP alone to take the fall?

WE (the world) cannot allow BP to be sent into bankruptcy, a large portion of US, UK and European pensions are invested in BP, this is a time to help BP clean up the Gulf not to chastise them publicly for attempting a clean up operation never before seen, the time for blame will come, but for gods sake America, grow up and help this company save the Gulf.

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I agree so much...I tried telling my hubby about alot of things going on, and he seems to side in with the gov, seems to have an answer (rxcuse) to everything....by the way, I am trying to talk to him during the commercials----HE likes american idol, americas got talent and especially dancing with thw stars-----me, I like like talking with/reading what my friends have to say on ATS, sitting outside looking at what beauty is left, watching the stars at night as well as keeping up to date on things going on.
My motto is, better safe than sorry. I have everything prepared in case of storm/power outage, etc....It doesnt mean I am paranoid, it means I have some sense in my head that life is not a bowl of cherries.
I say to people that if they are prepared, even to some degree, it is better than nothing...I also say, if they are not prepared (which they had ample time), then who really IS the crazy one?

in case you havent been paying attention. and you clearly havent. most of the people on here are here for a reason. ist BECAUSE NOBODY CARES THAT WE CONGREGATE ON THIS SITE. we are the only ones that care. and care enough to come here everyday to see if things are going to get better.

the world is in the state it is in because nobody cares. its not just the west coast its the majority of the world.

current culture has been set up in such a way that nobody cares what happens to anybody but themselves. its selfishness of the highest order. its being perpetrated on every scale imaginable. from political religious to economic.

the mantra is look after yourself and dont worry about anybody else. let them fend for themselves. this has been going on since the 80's it started in america and has spread through out the world like a virus.

its seems the states are reaping your karmic rewards. seems harsh but the truth usually is.

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Who cares if they don't care? Obviously then, they know nothing, or do not care for other reasons.. Many of these people who don't care, probably do not understand the ramifications, to what is happening..Meaning, this 'disaster' will now cause a greater chance of volcanoes and natural disaster to occur on a much larger level. If not that, it is still killing much life in the ocean which is like spitting in the Creators face. I am pretty sure it was meant to happen one way or the other.

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This process is started at a very young age and is a product of modern trends. Like I always said it starts with us watching other people and learning from them coupled with idea's like santa clause. We accept it there because we learned that it was ok to lie as long as it made someones life better.

it is no longer the united state of america.............is the disunited states of a-ME-rica..
between thursady and sunday of last week the iphone 4 sold somewhere around 1.5 million units at around $300 per unit.now thats a lot of change and when they are told that africans are being butchered for the metals used inside of them, their eyes sort of glaze over and they seem to go off somewhere mentally and then they come back and say ï got the cherry red color one."people are consumers, we all are consumers, we need to get away from all the useless junk cluttering our lives.
peoples lives suck..work till ya die and pay taxes the whole time, thats just from generation to generation, so they want to spend thier limited free time not worrying about such trivial things like the gulf of mexico and wars and such.
i grew up in the midwest and that is the land of the hardest working sheep you will ever see. and maybe thats is their "mission"in this lifetime. these people are concerned more with rent and car payments and unfair insurance premiums to devote the time and energy to life changing disasters here in our country, personally i hate the midwest attitude. they are content to stay stagnant, i respect the work ethic tho. i talk to friends and family members and they are all for tougher immigration laws, and not that up to date on the gom dilema but they can tell you all the details on last nights american idol.its a shame however i do not see that way of life changing.
i currently live in the pacific northwest and totally different attitude here, everyone here feels they deserve something. people just dont want to work hard.for being such a small part of the population of the country somehow they feel they know whats best.they dont care about current events they care about what others think of them,you try talking to them about the gulf or the war or immigration is the worse topic, they just roll their eyes and say"doesnt concern me, except when it comes to immigration they are all for kicking them out but not till after they do all the work first.these people claim to be the most well read in the counrty but if all you read is what tptb want you to read,well then you aint nothing,dont get me wrong there are always exceptions to the rule and not everyone is like how i describe the majority of these people.a high population of the united staes are of hispanic descent,and for the most part they just wanna live below the radar,they just wanna work and drink and dance and stay bliond to the real world cuz if they start asking questions to find out whats happening, they start to become the target of other's srutinizing and they dont want that,they dont rock the boat and everyone is happy.
we as a nation have painted ourselves into a corner,acceptable ignorance is the acceopted norm in this country nowadays, there are world wars going on out there and not many americans are willing to go out and fight for freedom anymore afar cry from the WWII era,we should be ashamed.
I try to do my part by keeping people informed on matters they might not hear about from the msm,but how am i to truely know if im spreading the truth or just mere non factual data. people have calle dme a pessimist all my life however i retort with ïm not a pessimist but a realist"people are gonna do what they want to do no matter what ya tell them, you cant blame a dog for being a dog, simple as that.
i dont see a civil war happening anytime soon so the next best thing is a super natural disaster, like yosemite erupting,or extra-terretrial influence, we are doomed to keep descending to pit of no escape. thanks for listening, sorry for the rant

I care and am thousands of miles away in another land !!

I have run across many who don't seem to care either. They don't think it's a big deal. I tried to talk to my mom about it and she said "oh I'm not worried about it here," I told her well she needs to start! I live in FL on the east coast about 2 and a half hours from Tampa and I am worried because if a storm hits and it carries the toxins it will affect the entire area. Florida isn't that big across so it would take no time at all for it to have affects on this side.

As for boycotting BP that is NOT the answer. It is not fair to the workers and their families who are just trying to make a living, they had nothing to do with it and technically most BP stations aren't even thru BP, they pay to use the name. I refuse to boycott someone's livelihood because of a mistake others made and they had no control over.

I'm a Native American, all my friends are Native American. This thing in the Gulf bothers us a great deal. The photos of the oiled birds, it hurts. We've been praying to the Creator in our sweat ceremonies for a stop to this gusher. Our hearts go out to the people that live there. General Motors polluted our reservation with high concentrations of PCB's. There are areas that we'll never be able to use again. A good number of our people used to make their living fishing, but the river is so full of PCB's, that is gone. I can understand. I feel it in the pit of my stomach. It hurts.

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I have asked my friends to boycott BP, and NO ONE has. One person who lives in California said, "I don't care. BP has cheap gas, and I'm not going to let it affect my family or my lifestyle. I will still get my gas where it's cheap and close to my house." That same person went on to say, "I get my seafood from Thailand."

What? BP is cheap in the USA?!?

Why the hell is it so bloody expensive over here in Britain then? Most people I know don't buy from BP, not because of the the Gulf spill (sorry, but most Brits don't care either, I suppose it's a kind of not in my back yard syndrome) but because it costs a fortune to fill up! BP is easily THE most expensive petrol company in the UK. The last time I noticed, they were charging £1.27/litre around my area, compared to £1.19/litre for Shell and even lower at super store forecourts.

Just goes to show that the majority shareholders of BP are no longer British...

I live in Luxemburg (Europe) and I can tell you I am probably the only person around here who cares and slightly understands what's going on.

When friends ask me how it's going in my gulf, I give them the following answer. Yeah. For them it's Nidwin's gulf now.

"It's easy. BP has one shot at bottom kill that well. If they fail it's byebye gulf and byebye gulfstream. Be prepared for cold winters."

And that's how the discussion about my gulf catastrophy ends.

Pathetic but I can't help it. They are sheep and that's all they are. May God forgive them for it, because I will never.

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I totally agree with you, and that's the big difference between Europe and USA : we still know and remember since French Revolution what solidarity means and we fight for a better society despite neocons try every day to dismantle our society and make it more egoistic ......
we know the power of the State is OUR power, not the one of the big corporations and we do not have politicians that can be manipulated and bought by them with lots of $$$$$.
So, it's a mess up at yours because they only will revolt and care about this disasters when petrol will be raining on their beautiful grass and no fish will be available at the store ... egoism everywhere, that is why it is necessary to have actions like the ones made by Greenpeace ( very quiet for the moment .... ???? ) or Michael Moore or the Sea Shepherds .... or like that courageous women that was manifestating with petrol all over her body !! Hey people, open your eyes before "they" close them forever

Originally posted by Nidwin
"It's easy. BP has one shot at bottom kill that well. If they fail it's byebye gulf and byebye gulfstream. Be prepared for cold winters."
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Eeek, I hadn't even thought about that! No Gulf stream = very cold North Western Europeans! Look what happens to the UK if we get a few inches of snow. Imagine if we got Canadian style winters, which we would without the Gulf stream!!!

Screw that! I'm moving to Spain!

Something that has been happening for me the last few weeks, and it comes in waves, is a sort of well not saddness, but just unease, disssapointment and worry

its not "my feelings" per sey, but it seems to be a touch of what the earth is feeling. and unease about what is to come, and the sadness, pain and devestation happening- not just in the gulf- but all over the earth, for all creatures- not just the humans

i have mentioned to some people i know that some of their anxiety or depressions they are suffering through or just unease that comes may not be related to them- but that they may have a good connection to the earth and what they are feeling is the struggle of the earth itself right now.

so while may seem not to care about things, something deeper in them might be activated- but they are not recongizing that the extra stress they are noticing right now is not about "thier own life" specifically, but is related to the earth.

You are certainly not alone in your perception of apathy.

I have repeatedly asked whether there is anything I can do to impact this disaster - and others like it elsewhere on the planet - other than express dismay and sadness. A donation fund that would pay into local cleanup efforts, etc. So far, I've found nothing, and no one can tell me anything.

And yes, many people simply seem to not care one way or another. On the other hand, I have been reassured, inspired, and comforted by the fact that so many do seem to genuinely care.