MSM and teen sexualization

Walmart has several racks of "Miley Cyrus" Clothing.

I actually thought it was some kind of joke or something.

They are made of black plasticy looking fabric and cheap black netting.

They look like really cheaply made Halloween costumes

For dressing up like a 70's hooker.

It was really hard for me to wrap my head around

that clothing not being a joke.
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I used to not believe in TV, Music, and Movies brainwashing society

But seriously, just look!

We can be so much more.

This cheap junk dishonors our sexuality
it does not enhance it.

Within each of us is a higher potential.
A shining light of truth, power and possibilities.

What a shame.

Thought you folks might appreciate this once again South Park hit the nail on the head!

www.vbox7.com...:8ad5e1cb?r=google

I wouldn't mess with Mickey Mouse...

reply to post by illusions


I read recently her little sister was releasing lingerie for her age group...
Don't know how true that is because there is a chance it was in the daily mail.

reply to post by intrepid



Tell me about it.

As a VERY protective Uncle, whenever my wife and I take our nieces out shopping - who are all of 11 years old - they KNOW the rules. Wear clothing that covers you properly or Uncle will shoot you a look of disgust and you'll be marching back up to change out of that skank-outfit you just came down in.

In fact...one time the wife and I went to pick up our nieces, one of which we hadn't seen for ages...I wasn't expected to come along, but had a free day at work so did.
Down they came, all dressed like cheap French Hookers...saw me and immediately spun around and went back up to change. Didn't even have to say a thing.


What I'm shocked at more though is my nieces don't of course have the money to BUY that type of clothing - their parents DO. So what the HELL is wrong with parents who buy crap like that??
Yeah yeah, people shouldn't be looking, people shouldn't be sexualising children. COMPLETELY AGREE...indeed anyone who does should be lowered feet first into a meat-grinder. Sick perverts.

But the reality is their ARE people out there who will sexualise those children...and its NOT helped by 1)Their parents BUYING clothing that is soooo damn revealing, and 2)Their parents allowing them to wear it!


Have had a few discussions with their parents around it.
Apparently I'm a bit prudish they reckon.
I merely inform them that the reason I'm not taking their kids to the Mall dressed like that is I don't want to end up in court due to ripping some potential Pedos throat out for perving at my nieces.


...add to that their parents that allow them to watch Music Videos from teens barely into their first phase of puberty singing about boning this chick or that chick...videos of skanky-hoes all shaking everything like they're working in a nudey-bar...its so common place...this is the crap that the see every day, its their reality, their levels of acceptability.
Bugger all seems to reinforce the value of themselves as people, rather than as revealed body parts.


Meh - like you Intrepid...NOT ON MY WATCH.

Don't forget about the MSM... You'll see it every other time you watch it.

So are you saying that the MSM are intentionally trying to sexualise children?

For what reason?

reply to post by SneakAPeek


Great thread. This is absolutely a huge problem in the MSM. But again it is all part of degrading the society into a more easily controllable group of people. It is also a result of the way things are out there now in the economy since WW2; it requires both parents to work in most middle class families. And so they don't have time to spend with their kids. Its all part of a much bigger conspiracy than most people here can or want to believe.

Totally agree. Another thing they are pushing on us and our children is cussing. Amazing how much cussing is become common place....it's sickening that we can't even speak or say one sentence without saying 10 cuss words.

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...agree as well with the cussing.

...though this will likely get me in strife for saying, but:

The other thing I detest is when - particular my *white* nephews and nieces - start speaking to me, a brown guy, in ebonic hip-hop slang...

"Up to G? We 'bout to bounce to da mall Unk, flik us a text. Laters G"

WTH??????????
Just wanna shake them and scream "One - you've been raised better than to speak like you're some undereducated gang-banger. Two - this is NOT South Central LA, this is NZ. Three, you're from a high income well off family, the only *hood* you know is the bonnet of your BMW X5 family car. And four - YOU'RE WHITE!!!!! Quit talking like some Snoop-doggy-dizzile-ma-shizzile-poppa-cap-fo-rizzile'




But to get more on-topic lest I have to Warn myself...
Recently while shopping I noticed a window display in a Tots-Teens Shop.
On sale was CHILD LINGERIE! I shyte you not...

In the window of this shop were child mannequins dressed in frilly-lace outfits the likes that my wife has for *special occasions*...

And I'm NOT talking about just *pretty* lingerie...I'm talking about risque revealing transparent in certain places lingerie.


Thats just sick. And the real sick thing is that they'd likely sell...and be once again bought by parents for their own kids.



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Wahaaay another teenage thread.

I'm 16 and well, I'll be killed if I wore any of those short short shorts that seem to be equivalent of knickers.

Parent's say up to my knees or just above it (due to dresses these days). They don't like those deep ones and I'm sorry but have you seen the way tops are made to show half your upper chest out?

Not good. Sometimes, factors like these lead to bad things.

But Disney, disney's good. Don't diss it. *pokes*

Kids these days!

I went to a BBQ last weekend and there was a 9 year old there. Somehow we got to talking to her, you know "what grade are you in?, favorite subject, random small talk You have with a little kid. This girl was pretty outgoing so she just started talking.

The stuff she said blew us away.

Most girls In my class have boyfriends, my favorite show is true blood, I watch soaps, a lot of my friends are bisexual.

It was really creepy and disturbing, granted she seemed like a really sweet little kid but all we kept saying was:

YOU'RE ONLY NINE!

these kids are just bombarded by sex and violence everywhere. Half the stuff she was saying I didn't even hear till I was in my teens. The last 10 years there has been a dramatic shift with what these kids are exposed too.

I don't care how good of a parent you are they just learn it from their friends anyway. Makes me not want to have kids.

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reply to post by SneakAPeek


On some level I too am appalled when I hear of shows like this BUT one thing we have to realize is that biologically teenagers are adults, mentally they are still way behind, but physically they are developing these urges. A few hundred years ago it wasn't unheard of for people 13-16 to get married at that age and be considered adults, which is understandable both because of the biology aspect and because of the fact that public education didn't last until age 17-18.

I do think, though, that in this day and age, we don't need hyper-sexualized messages in our teen media. The mind of a teenager is often already dwelling on sex for a great deal of the time. That's not to say these shows can't have messages about sex that are RELEVANT to what the teens are going through, just so long as they don't glorify hyper-sexual high risk behavior. We have to find a way to warn against high risk hyper-sexual behavior without instilling guilt in teens for natural sexual behaviors and thoughts. Most sexual behaviors are natural and can be done safely with no ill effect but there is a danger with people who treat sex like it doesn't have any risks attached.

Too often religion and their abstinence only movement just ends up making kids feel bad about natural urges - we need to steer clear of that but also outline the risks of unsafe sex and hyper-sexual behavior.

So on some level I agree with you but its a touchy issue with a lot of people. I think that too often we view sex through too puritanical a viewpoint, sex is perfectly natural and it seems to me the paranoia over it is more dangerous than the glorification of it (case in point the nonsense over the super bowl half-time show a few years ago). Its a delicate balance to walk.

reply to post by SneakAPeek


First of all, those 7 year old dancers have nothing to do with the MSM.
You can thank their disillusioned parents for that performance.

On to the topic of Degrassi, did it ever occur to you that since it is written for people of that age group, and deals with the issues that people of that age group go through, that it would have themes of sex, virginity, kissing (didn't realise that was a problem.. -_-), etc.

How old are you anyway to be finding these themes as sexual?

Originally posted by Nventual
reply to post by SneakAPeek

 

On to the topic of Degrassi, did it ever occur to you that since it is written for people of that age group, and deals with the issues that people of that age group go through, that it would have themes of sex, virginity, kissing (didn't realise that was a problem.. -_-), etc.

How old are you anyway to be finding these themes as sexual?

You weren't responding to me but,

Thanks for the laugh!

Who would be childish enough to find themes such as...
sex, virginity, kissing, etc...

as sexual!

Thank you! Very funny!


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No "yum yum" on my watch.
I watch my neighborhood, and share my insight with the children.
It is not easy.
Raising my kids wasn't easy.
Some of us take it seriously, and I very much appreciate
those of you who give a hoot !
Hang in.
love.

This is a modern problem ?

Maybe checking up on how old Romeo and Juliet were, might open your eyes to reality and entertainment.

blog.shakespearegeek.com...

Or was Shakespeare a pedo too ?

Most of my past girlfriends have told me they started "fooling around" way younger than their male friends. I myself had zero interest in girls until I was 13. In fact I hated them.

Nothing has changed about young people sexuality, but it is slightly more visible and discussed openly.



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reply to post by Pixus


Saturday mornings on fox, before the actual cartoons come on. Usually the 6pm 7pm and 8 'o clock news. These are the times they mostly display their networks "feelings" about certain topics. Perhaps it would be a 2minute chuck of time all about panties and bras and their discount prices and sizes and then of course the images. John stewart, colbert report, E news, TMZ, CNN whatever. It's all there.. Even sometimes with the back and forth of the talking between 2 news anchors, no images shown when they are talking, but what they talk about when they do their "hand off"s when it's the other anchors turn to speak can bee heard.

I read a post here about Miley Cyrus and Walmart. So true. You can't walk 20FT into a department, regardless of what department, without seeing a line up of Miley Cyrus Wigs, Make-Up, Fish net clothing, Shoes, Bras, and so on. Pretty sad. Will they be removed when Miley Cyrus turns 18 and starts showing so much skin you would think shes Brittany Spears little sister? LOl. Gosh this is annoying.

Originally posted by Nventual
reply to post by SneakAPeek

 

First of all, those 7 year old dancers have nothing to do with the MSM.
You can thank their disillusioned parents for that performance.

On to the topic of Degrassi, did it ever occur to you that since it is written for people of that age group, and deals with the issues that people of that age group go through, that it would have themes of sex, virginity, kissing (didn't realise that was a problem.. -_-), etc.

How old are you anyway to be finding these themes as sexual?

I only think that snipit is MSM related news wise because they woulden't stopshowing it for a week, on every damn news broadcast. Maybe CNN had some nasty things to say about the parents that allowed it, but that's about it. All the others would be all, " aww how cute, or they are really good!".

Edit: Degrassi promo - If kids the age of 5 are watching MTV then they may as well be watching this at ages 9 - 13, cuz of their "maturity level". I still can't get over what that guy said about the 9 year old having bisexual friends...
Edit: Random Miley Cyrus Video

[edit on 1-7-2010 by SneakAPeek]

Ya know i have to agree with whats being said here. I have a daughter who is now 18 and although she never dressed provocatively, she still wanted to watch shows i didnt think were age appropriate. The problem was her mother secretly behid my back let her do what she wanted. After me and her mother split the daughter stayed with her and i raise our son who is now 10. My boy goes over to her apartment on the weekends and on one such weekend trip my son came back telling me all about how kewl his sisters room is. Come to find out my 16 yr old daughter at the time was putting up centerfolds from playboy and pics from hustler magazine on her walls. I almost had a stroke. She is bisexual and i mostly dont have a problem with that, however 16 yrs old is too young to be displaying or even looking at such content much less my ex allowing it. Her excuse was that she didnt know what to tell her. How about no you friggin worthless excuse for a human!! God i hate that woman but back on topic, i put a stop to it. I told her that regardless of what you think is ok and not ok sexually for a 16yr old girl to do, your letting our 8 yr old son sleep in her room and he is just happy as a cat in a bird cage to sleep there. So i told her that they come down or he doesnt come over and take me to court if she likes. The pictures came down and my daughter had yet another reason to think i am the antichrist.

As far as the media is concerned, yes it is affecting our children. The people in charge do not want to change things and its all about perspective. Over the decades peoples ideas about sexuality have changed. In my moms generation things were one way and in my generation it was much different with alot more being accepted and tolerated because it had become the norm and mainstream. Now things are worse or so they seem to the older generation because what is tolerated now wasnt then. Yes as time goes by more and more will become accepted and mainstream. I expect by the time my kids have kids who are teens, porn will be mainstream and being watched by familys at this rate. Decency and morality are gone from this country except where it is still alive in small populaces and in rare individuals who were raised with a sense of decency.

Reminds me of a saying i heard somewhere. The quote was something like " back in my day we kids went to the movies to watch grownups having sex. Now adults go to the movies to watch teenagers having sex."

Originally posted by thedeadtruth
This is a modern problem ?

Not sure if there is a problem, but

It apprears that there are in fact

some people who do not like seeing

young teens sexualized

in the media.

Maybe checking up on how old Romeo and Juliet were, might open your eyes to reality and entertainment.

Juliet was 13 and Romeo's age was not mentioned but assumed young

I was not aware that entertainment was reality?

Thank you for the heads up!

This could explain alot of outrageous happenings in the world.

Or was Shakespeare a pedo too ?.

That's interesting...Do you know something we don't?

Most of my past girlfriends have told me they started "fooling around" way younger than their male friends. I myself had zero interest in girls until I was 13. In fact I hated them.?.

TMI, but wow! your girlfriends get around!

Romeo and Juliet didn't see near the action you did.

And they actually married and were seriously in love

to the point that they were willing to die for each other.

Oh yes,

I hope you kids got some free condoms from the school nurse.

Back in Romeo's day the school nurse handed out

sheepskin condoms to the kids I'm sure.

Nothing has changed about young people sexuality, but it is slightly more visible and discussed openly.

Interesting.

So you are saying that basically kids have always been loosey goosey

and had many sex partners before becoming emotionally mature.

That's cool

But the topic of this thread is actually

the msm sexualizing young teens.

Not whether young teens have always been promiscuous.

Interesting info you shared though