Vaccinations vs. Religion

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


So, again, you have no response to the research and data of hundreds of scientists, and instead will cling to your anecdotes from a handful of people with no data, no research, and no support for their arguments other than "well, a guy on the internet said...".

Classic. This is what's making lean toward leaving this site. The motto is "Deny Ignorance", but all the people here seem to do is embrace it.

I was hoping to revive this post due to its importance, and possible knowledge or the lack there of about the importance of vaccines by either choice or not. I hope that this doesn't get looked over.


Peace to you...

Whooping Cough comes to the US via illegal immigration, I am against both of them. I have studied this matter and Whooping Cough was a result of inadequate antiseptics and the medical ignorance that persisted largely due to entrenched bias against antiseptics. If you look at the charts for these declines you will find it does so long before the introduction of vaccines and secondly you can also chart diseases on the basis of migration and immigration statics, most people are in denial or lying about how this stuff occurs or just ignorant. Most doctors like politicians are unconcerned with national boundaries unless it can be used to control people's minds. Other than that we are being exposed to the dangers of these illnesses thanks to people like Obama whom think they are fighting racism, but in fact are promoting the FDA big business, drug companies and rampant low wage low skill illegal migration to the US. It looks more like an attempt to break down the middle class, add to it all the Federal Reserve actions and we have a historical watershed moment. More migration more disease, more disorder, more civil unrest, unemployment....it makes the argument for tryanny easier when people are sick unemployed and culturally in decline. Add in the sky is falling rhetoric about global warming and you have a full on tsunami of propaganda to turn people into jello passively drugged out on TV and totally dependent on government for everything, also don't forget the idea of government run healthcare and forced medical insurance for the eventual forced treatment plans, they just voted to give themselves the right to force everyone to have flu shots. They are obsessed with control over information and outcomes based upon the propaganda they promote and care not about the facts and the truth of the ROOT causes of our probelms, that being the SIZE theory of crisis, the larger something gets the less free all become.

reply to post by VneZonyDostupa


You make me laugh you seem to not remember how science doesn't happen all at once or at agreed historical points, in many cases for example the ability to smash atoms was considered impossible, the data was published eventhough many disagreed about publishing it( but they couldn't resist getting the credit) and so many rushed to create the atomic bomb for fear that germany or russia would get there first and they asumed the US would be the best society to get this weapon, least likely to use it, boy were they wrong.
You can read about it in a book called The New Prometheans
Also I urge you to check out The Healing Brain book and another one called The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, of which maybe you have read but have not digested in awhile possibly.
Another title to check out maybe one called The Breakdown of Nations by Leopold kohr.

Thank you for that input, I also agree that alot of the diseases that are making a come back, have alot to do with the environment, immigration, and the lack of people not understanding how passing diseases actually works.



Peace to you...

There is no guarantee on anyone's life, vaccinated or not - look at the swine flu vac - probably killed more than it saved.

The only way to look at it is that you could be in a plane and the plane could drop out of the sky.

You could be crossing a road and get run over.

In other words, there is no guarantee in this life.

Personally, I would advise avoid all vaccines.

And just try and have a nice life.

Originally posted by bubbabuddhaI have studied this matter and Whooping Cough was a result of inadequate antiseptics and the medical ignorance that persisted largely due to entrenched bias against antiseptics. If you look at the charts for these declines you will find it does so long before the introduction of vaccines

Can you provide these "charts", please? Every bit of data I've seen shows a decline after the introduction of vaccination.

and secondly you can also chart diseases on the basis of migration and immigration statics,

Immigration statistics wouldn't matter if the population is vaccinated. If you receive the DPT vaccination, no number of infected immigrants are going to make a difference.

Most doctors like politicians are unconcerned with national boundaries unless it can be used to control people's minds.]Other than that we are ]eing exposed to the dangers of these illnesses thanks to people like Obama whom think they are fighting racism, but in fact are promoting the FDA big business, drug companies and rampant low wage low skill illegal migration to the US.It looks more like an attempt to break down the middle class, add to it all the Federal Reserve actions and we have a historical watershed moment. More migration more disease, more disorder, more civil unrest, unemployment....it makes the argument for tryanny easier when people are sick unemployed and culturally in decline. Add in the sky is falling rhetoric about global warming and you have a full on tsunami of propaganda to turn people into jello passively drugged out on TV and totally dependent on government for everything, also don't forget the idea of government run healthcare and forced medical insurance for the eventual forced treatment plans, they just voted to give themselves the right to force everyone to have flu shots. They are obsessed with control over information and outcomes based upon the propaganda they promote and care not about the facts and the truth of the ROOT causes of our probelms, that being the SIZE theory of crisis, the larger something gets the less free all become.

This thread isn't the place for your xenophobic, political trolling. Reported for off-topic, sorry.

Originally posted by catwhoknows
There is no guarantee on anyone's life, vaccinated or not - look at the swine flu vac - probably killed more than it saved.

The only way to look at it is that you could be in a plane and the plane could drop out of the sky.

You could be crossing a road and get run over.

In other words, there is no guarantee in this life.

Personally, I would advise avoid all vaccines.

And just try and have a nice life.

Some would say having a nice life includes avoiding easily preventable diseases by being vaccinated.