Dubya diagnosed as mentally deranged.

Well, how can you tell he is nuts? He went to war with a country that had no reason to be attacked. He saw things that weren't there, like WMD's. I think seeing things that aren't there is a pretty good sign of insanity, don't you? He hires some of the richest people in the country to be his advisors, yet they have no exp. what so ever. Except Colin Powell. And as said, he spouts bible babble one minute then goes and attacks a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 while making deals with the country, Saudi Arabia, that had I think 18 members in on the attack. Guy sounds pretty mental to me. I guess binge drinking and coke will do that to you.

Originally posted by James the Lesser
Well, how can you tell he is nuts? He went to war with a country that had no reason to be attacked. He saw things that weren't there, like WMD's. I think seeing things that aren't there is a pretty good sign of insanity, don't you? He hires some of the richest people in the country to be his advisors, yet they have no exp. what so ever. Except Colin Powell. And as said, he spouts bible babble one minute then goes and attacks a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 while making deals with the country, Saudi Arabia, that had I think 18 members in on the attack. Guy sounds pretty mental to me. I guess binge drinking and coke will do that to you.

saw WMD that werent there? i am reminded of a member that said not along ago "because you did not see or hear it happen doesnt mean it didnt"...hmmm or do we see things only when we want and not when it doesnt suit us?

Originally posted by goose
Bush is a really bad president, his leadership has been a disaster to this country. Wars, no jobs, a dificit that is outrageous.

Huh? The war was brought to us, let in the country by the previous administration who blinded our intel. No jobs? Sister, the economy is recovering greatly from the recession that started before Bush took office, aided greatly by the tax cuts which powered up the economy by putting the money back in the right places and out of the wrong place - the government. An outrageous deficit? True, a deficit is a bad thing, but it is not something that we cannot repair, and it does cost to defend ourselves from those who with you and me dead.

As far as the "ex-employee" is concerned, if you are referring to Dick Clarke, saying it is the same old Rjetoric is like saying it is the same old rhetoric when you here the tornado warning siren go off. It might have been said before, but the fact still remains.

In regard to what Bush has seen fit to do with VA benefits, and other issues, such as the illegal Mexican immigration laxness, trucking, etc, I am in total agreement with you. Bush seems to have his head so far up his fifth point of contact, it makes you wonder if it was really a pretzel that he choked on many months ago, if you know what I mean! (Don't visualize to clearly, the picture is disgusting)

Have you noticed, the "conservative" president is not one at all? Do you see what those in real control have done? They have put us in the position where no matter who wins, we really get about the same thing. If Kerry wins, the Republicans are going to be using him for batting practice, and the Democrats are going to have a hard time defending him. The role is going to be reversed! That's what I expect, anyway. Kerry will not be able to be as left-winged in the Oval Office as he's been in Congress, and that will demoralize part of his supporters. He is certainly not going to be as far to the center as would be liked by the Republicans, and that is going to enrage them. In the end, we will see the difference between the two is like the difference between a case dime and two nickels.

Its a true mark of how bad a president really is when the rest o the world (not only his opponents in his own country) are hanging on to see him kicked out of office... I'm not saying Kerry is the greatest person for the job, but any improvement is a good one

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? He said that Iraq had WMD's. He "saw" evidence that they had them. He "saw" Saddam getting ready to rain down nukes on us. We go there, nothing. After a year one would think we would have found some.
"because you did not see or hear it happen doesnt mean it didnt" Well "If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" Of course it does, but if no one is around to hear it, you can't prove it did. Saddam didn't have WMD's, After being there for over a year, nothing! So, as said, Bush is seeing things, a clear sign of insanity.

James, please, try and stay within the guidelines of reality. Nobody envisioned Hussein raining nukes on us. It doesn't take a strategic thinker, though, to realize a man who has used chemical and biological weapons on his neighbor and his own people, who, as far as the world knew, still had them, who also has links to terrorist organizations and assisted the organization that struck us in 2001, and who was also pursuing nuclear capability, was a serious and immediate threat to the U.S. and should be one of the priorities in the War on Terror.

I'd rather hear you blithering about Bush's imaginary concern about actual nukes raining down on us than to hear you screaming "Bush didn't do a thing to stop it!!" after a terrorist organization used an NBC device on Kansas City. Either way, you'd be running your mouth, and you know it!

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

Originally posted by goose
Bush is a really bad president, his leadership has been a disaster to this country. Wars, no jobs, a dificit that is outrageous.

Huh? The war was brought to us, let in the country by the previous administration who blinded our intel. No jobs? Sister, the economy is recovering greatly from the recession that started before Bush took office, aided greatly by the tax cuts which powered up the economy by putting the money back in the right places and out of the wrong place - the government. An outrageous deficit? True, a deficit is a bad thing, but it is not something that we cannot repair, and it does cost to defend ourselves from those who with you and me dead.

As far as the "ex-employee" is concerned, if you are referring to Dick Clarke, saying it is the same old Rjetoric is like saying it is the same old rhetoric when you here the tornado warning siren go off. It might have been said before, but the fact still remains.

In regard to what Bush has seen fit to do with VA benefits, and other issues, such as the illegal Mexican immigration laxness, trucking, etc, I am in total agreement with you. Bush seems to have his head so far up his fifth point of contact, it makes you wonder if it was really a pretzel that he choked on many months ago, if you know what I mean! (Don't visualize to clearly, the picture is disgusting)

Have you noticed, the "conservative" president is not one at all? Do you see what those in real control have done? They have put us in the position where no matter who wins, we really get about the same thing. If Kerry wins, the Republicans are going to be using him for batting practice, and the Democrats are going to have a hard time defending him. The role is going to be reversed! That's what I expect, anyway. Kerry will not be able to be as left-winged in the Oval Office as he's been in Congress, and that will demoralize part of his supporters. He is certainly not going to be as far to the center as would be liked by the Republicans, and that is going to enrage them. In the end, we will see the difference between the two is like the difference between a case dime and two nickels.

I agree and disagree, first off the 911 terrorist attack did not happen due to the Clinton Administration, the Bush administration was told before they took over that OBL and AlQuieda was an ever growing and ever present danger but they the Bush folks were arrogant and basically ignored the warnings. There were more warnings to come, many from foriegn governments from their intelligence gathering organizations but they were also ignored. Bush went into Afghanistan after OBL with most American's support but then when it did not happen he then stretched our resources even more by going into Iraq. While I agree with you that we had to see him as a danger due to the chemical weapons and the desire to dabble in nuclear weapons, there was just not enough evidence to go in when we did and had we waited to find the evidence and work through the UN we might have settled the whole thing in a much more peaceful manner saving American's as well as Iraqie lives and suffering. Not going through the UN even though Bush did make a laughable attempt at getting their approval (I personally do not think he ever wanted their approval) gave him one thing, if we went in without their blessing, then we could hand out the government contracts that are making Bush's oil buddies even richer. Had the UN been the one in charge of handing out those contracts they might have went to people who are not footing Bush's re-election campaign. As for the dificit, I don't know if we can recover, how much higher is taxes going to have to be to pay the bill? What important programs are going to be cut to cover a portion of the dificit? Jobs, yes Clinton is partially responsible for that, he passed the stupid Nafta bill that had been in the works for 12 years of Republican leadership under Reagan and Bush Sr. who also would have signed it had he been re-elected, and Clinton signed it and now our jobs are going overseas at an alarming rate and the Bush administration refuses to do anything at all to stop it. Also the Department of labor is currently working with employers to teach them how using the current laws to stop paying overtime. The unemploymetn figures are misleading, they only post the ones still drawing their unemployment, after 6 months you no longer qualify and then your name is dropped and your no longer counted unemployed even if you still don't have a job. I agree with you that Kerry and Bush is too much a like for my taste, but I don't think he could do worse than Bush and if Bush gets re-elected knowing he can't run again its only get worse.