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Originally posted by XxRagingxPandaxX
Ha Ha very clever! I doubt they'll ever have to pay taxes.
Edit to add: S&F great thread op!
[edit on 27-6-2010 by XxRagingxPandaxX]
Originally posted by LarryLove
reply to post by seataka
Not heard much about this cult in recent media until you posted this. Unsurprising really, but then profiteering off other people is part of their doctrine. Don''t they believe in little aliens that crawl all over your body or something along those lines.
I remember confronting members of this cult in my home town. They don't like being asked questions.
Don''t they believe in little aliens that crawl all over your body or something along those lines.
Scientologists believe that most human problems can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters" to individuals in the contemporary world, causing spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives of their hosts "
Originally posted by MemoryShock
reply to post by airspoon
The Mormons are next in my opinion...as well they should be.
Sucks from a "there are many whom actually believe it and are situated in a family atmosphere mentality"...but the Mormons have been affiliated with CIA and have been implicated in misusing their tax exempt status...
Interesting times...get ready...
Originally posted by LarryLove
reply to post by MemoryShock
I am now off to create a religion of me and make myself exempt from paying taxes. Now, close my eyes, open an atlas and place a pin randomly on a page. That's where the cult of me will be incorporated - Mongolia!
Question: Did L. Ron Hubbard state that the way to make money was to start a religion?
Answer... No. , This is an unfounded rumor. The rumor got started in 1948; according to the church, when "one individual" claimed he heard Hubbard make such a comment during a lecture. "The only two people who could be found who attended the very lec ture in 1948 denied that Mr. Hubbard ever made the statement," says the media guide?
But the man who invited Hubbard to speak, Sam Moskowitz, a 74-year-old sci- ence fiction editor in Newark, swears to this day that Hubbard made the remark in front of 23 members of the Eastern Science Fic- tion Association, most of whom are now dead.
The church also ignores a 1983 book by Lloyd Arthur Eshbach, 'Over My Shoulder. Reflections of the Science Fiction Era." Eshbach recounts a 1948 meeting with Hubbard and two others in New York-
"The incident is stamped indelibly in my mind because of one statement that Ron Hubbard made. What led him to say what he did I can't recall-But in so many words Hubbard said- -'I'd like to start a religion, That's where the money is"
Two other Hubbard contemporaries quote him similarly in the unauthorized 1987 biog- raphy "Bare-Faced Messiah." And two sci- ence fiction experts contacted for this story confirm -that Hubbard made such remarks before be wrote his treatise on Dianetics, which was first published in the magazine Astounding Science Fiction. But church offi- cials maintain that these people are sorely confused. The church says another famous writer said the exact same thing----George Orwell, who wrote to a friend in 1938 that there might be a lot of cash in starting a new religion-
"It seems that Orwell's comment has been misattributed to Mr. Hubbard," the church media guide tells reporters. Only one problem: The Scientology opera- tive who says he came up with the Orwell explanation is Robert Vaughn Young, who quit the central church in 1989 after 20 years as a spokesman. While researching the life of the Founder, Young says he talked to three Hubbard associates from the fiction days who remembered Hubbard talking about getting out of the penny-a-word game for the more lucrative field of religion. Young ignored those comments, of course. and by a stroke of luck came up with the Orwell quote.
The irony is beyond Orwellian. But the man 'who wrote '1984" would certainly relish the scenario. The Hubbard quote gets sent down the memory tube, replaced by another, more suitable source. Over time, as Orwell understood. a lie can become the truth. Who will dispute it?
LINK (resulted in an internal FBI investigation)
Standoff At Ruby Ridge; Botched 'Anti-Terrorist' Operation Began With Series of Overreactions Series: STANDOFF AT RUBY RIDGE Series Number: 1/3 Sep 03, 1995 ; George Lardner Jr.; Richard Leiby
Originally posted by nine-eyed-eel
Originally posted by MemoryShock
reply to post by airspoon
The Mormons are next in my opinion...as well they should be.
Sucks from a "there are many whom actually believe it and are situated in a family atmosphere mentality"...but the Mormons have been affiliated with CIA and have been implicated in misusing their tax exempt status...
Interesting times...get ready...
I have heard a real good secondhand story about the Mormon church moving suitcases full of cash secretly across borders...which isn't proof but it wouldn't surprise me.
Originally posted by MemoryShock
reply to post by seataka
I grew up Mormon...recovered since the age of eighteen...thirteen years ago...
Originally posted by nine-eyed-eel
Originally posted by MemoryShock
reply to post by seataka
I grew up Mormon...recovered since the age of eighteen...thirteen years ago...
Wickedness never was happiness...naw, it never was...
Scientologists Charged With Extremism
26 July 2010 The Moscow Times
Prosecutors have opened a criminal case against a Scientology center in the town of Shchyolkovo, 13 kilometers northeast of Moscow, on charges of inciting hatred, punishable with up to five years in prison.
Investigators have decided that documents and literature confiscated at the center promoted extremism, a law enforcement official told Interfax, without elaborating. The decision was based on expertise conducted by leading Russian linguistic institutions, including the Linguistics Institute at the Academy of Sciences, Interfax reported.
In April, works by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard were added to a federal list of extremist materials on the decision of a Siberian court, which de facto rendered all Scientology centers open to prosecution. The court's decision slammed Hubbard's books as inciting social and religious hatred, justifying violence, especially toward opponents of Scientology, and promoting anti-state views.