CIA operative caught red handed?

reply to post by JBA2848


"So is the guy just crazy?"


of course we cannot rule that out.. But ..

what if thats what they want you to think?

I would think that if an asset was compromised there would always be a means in place with which to discredit said individual...


or perhaps i missed a key fold when i was fashioning my tinfoil hat.?..?

either way i enjoyed this thread to the utmost, thanks spoon


~meathead


[edit on 26-6-2010 by Mike Stivic]

I dont think he could be crazy as in just bloody insane... he seemed well organised and likable... maybe he had psychopathy and was very intelligent but calculating, like Ted Bundy and others...

[edit on 26-6-2010 by tyranny22]

Thanks Airspoon for clearing that up.

I wonder what the "con-man" angle would be when you piece everything together.

If he was manufacturing/altering weapons in an expensive condo, with a weapon aimed at the Federal Reserve, with a CIA Mosaic tile, what would be his intention of hanging around celebrities?

He'd have to have some type of "con" and I'm very interested as to what that was. This story has so many angles, it's almost like a puzzle and you have to put together all the pieces before the story is revealed.

He looks like someone to me who has several different appearences and I wouldn't be surprised at this point if he was CIA.

Maybe he's a rogue CIA Agent plotting revenge against the PTB!

If this guy is crazy, he still has a HELL of a head on his shoulders and SOME sort of training....I don't know about you guys but I would NEVER think about using glue to pickup my fingerprints.....That's like...well-organized/possibly trained at the very least.....

Very, very interesting!!

These are the kinds of threads that made me a lurker for many years and then finally join...

I am interested in reading further to what everyone thinks. I am so enjoying this thread where everyone is being civil, decent, and just all coming together in trying to piece this one out somehow... no idiots crashing in and proclaiming he is the messiah, or coming in and insulting everyone~ it is great!!

This whole story with this dude is very bizarre... It reads like a Tom Clancy or Michael Crichton first Chapter, eh??

Duplicate post for some reason-sorry!

[edit on 27-6-2010 by thegoodearth]

And people wonder why I say TV is boring

In my personal opinion, I think he's somehow affiliated with the CIA. As someone else mentioned, could be a contractor.

But why did police show up to a gas leak call-in? (someone else already mentioned this, but I forgot who you were)

Originally posted by The Dutch


But why did police show up to a gas leak call-in? (someone else already mentioned this, but I forgot who you were)

My guess....

Maybe when the call came in, there were officers nearby. Being cops, they are emergency responders and they went there to see if they could be of any assistance to the possible evacuation.

reply to post by nastalgik


I would agree, but then he is a very intelligent, organized, methodical nutjob. That does not make sense to me; if he is indeed crazy, a dreamer, then why has he not talked? Yes it is crazy to have the CIA seal when you are CIA, but the other pieces don't fit. Without the seal, undoubtedly I would say crazy guy, pissed off at the government, etc.

Undercover CIA Operative with a giant CIA Seal in a room where he is doing stuff he defiantly shouldn't, I don't think any CIA op would do that, even a undercover local pd cop wouldn't be that dumb.

I think this is more likely a set up to insight anger among public, false false flag if you will, attack prominent gov building or what ever make it seem as if CIA running attack insight public anger call for change etc.

EDIT: And about police responding to gas leak I have seen it happen they usually show up to help clear the building or area safely while fire dept. does job.

[edit on 27-6-2010 by ahddm]

reply to post by thegoodearth


This does feel like seem like a Clancy novel or something similar. I'm not sure what to believe, in regards to whether he is a covert operative.

--airspoon

This is so obviously NOT a CIA employee.

People have silly ideas what they are like.

More typical is a nerd who used to be a political science grad student at Yale. Or a EE who used to be in Air Force ROTC. Their apartments look like ordinary people's. There are plenty of middle aged women who look like sharp accounting managers.

The paramilitaries don't fabricate their own weapons, they'll be given them when they land in Afghanistan---from procurement, and signed out.

The guy was doing weird crap because he was a nut and probably trying to get laid by dumb girls. He sounds like a typical LA grifter---there are zillions of directionless "ninja"-slash-"producer"-slash-drug-dealer-waiters in LA.

There is no possible way anybody acting like that would pass any government security clearance.

[edit on 27-6-2010 by mbkennel]

[edit on 27-6-2010 by mbkennel]

reply to post by mbkennel


Ok, but why has he not talked? If he wants fame, he would be chirping.

It seems that everytime there is a thread about a CIA agent or rogue agent, someone makes a post about how all CIA agents are nerds who sit behind computers. I am quite sure lots of them are, but there are indeed field agents, including assassins, provacateurs, etc.

Not saying this guy is one, but it can't be ruled out yet.

And the conspiracist in me are seeing many links to Project MKULTRA and to the creation of an Manchurian Candidate?

i STILL think he was planning to rob the fed! sorry...i love ya airspoon!

this thread is full if some really fascinating stuff! ok...fess up...how many of you are CIA agents and operatives?

reply to post by mbkennel

This is so obviously NOT a CIA employee.

People have silly ideas what they are like.

I think you have a wrong idea about what or who CIA assets are like. They aren't always like FBI agents or squeaky clean college grads. Sure, those types turn out to be analysts or handlers, knows as "operations officers", but there are some assets that are different.

There is no possible way anybody acting like that would pass any government security clearance.

May not have to, unless he was an operations officer. See explanation above. I do however have to admit that these "assets" aren't supposed to be operating within US borders but since when does the CIA play by the rules?

The paramilitaries don't fabricate their own weapons, they'll be given them when they land in Afghanistan---from procurement, and signed out.

That's not always true, I'm sure. If they were planning a clandestine operation inside our borders, it may be wise to fabricate "untraceable" weapons. In fact, I would find it odd if they didn't. Whether it be an assassination in a foreign country or a clandestine operation in our own, fabricating weapons would only seem logical.

Now, I'm not saying that this guy is definitely CIA, only that we don't know and he sure does look suspicious, whether he be CIA, Mossad, some other foreign intelligence asset or a wanna-be. You can look up the rules and regulations of the CIA and say all you want about how the CIA is supposed to behave, but by going off that, you wouldn't be able to explain a lot of the things that the CIA has been caught red-handed at, whether it be Iran-Contra, installment of the Shah or even the CIA plane that went down with tons of coc aine. Tell me, where and how did those guys get their clearances?

What I can definitely say for sure, is that he isn't just some idiot pretending to be something he isn't, as he was producing extremely good counterfeit currency.

--airspoon

sounds like this guy is my hero. cameras trained on the fed? machine shop making weapons? on his way out when they were coming?

anyone hatin is a shill. oh yeah you better be mad i learned what shill means.

you are he.

concentrate hard on the current bs. thats what the devil wants. so you dont do what this guys doing. pay attention and lose yourself in this oil spill. in this repubs vs demos. in this whatever. the man is trying to take your mind off this exact kinda stuff. cause if you see him doing it, you may get the idea you can too.

the devils losing, thats why you dont hear about this. if he was cia, they trained him and he got wise and revolutionary. if not, he was wise for the logos cause it made this news worthy and allowed us to hear. either way he was wise.

i'm wrong so dont read any of this. hahaha you all fell for it

but hate or love. all you do is what you were told. if only you knew...

we are being beaten and killed everywhere. we know truth exists. we know we're allowed to speak. we know we're allowed to protect ourselves. we know we're allowed to overthrow the govt. its our right.

anyone hating is waiting to get raped. anyone loving has been raped. anyone else is waiting to be shown. except this is the kinda thing you dont wanna be shown. but you will soon enough.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
i STILL think he was planning to rob the fed!

sorry...i love ya airspoon!

this thread is full if some really fascinating stuff! ok...fess up...how many of you are CIA agents and operatives?

Could very well be, however would he be doing it alone? Who was he working with? Also, robbing the Fed Res would be pretty crazy, as opposed to robbing an armored car leaving the Fed Reserve.

As far as CIA agents reading the thread or being on ATS, I would almost bet "none", in any official capacity at least. However, I bet there may be one or two CIA analysts and definitely FBI agents. Just think... I bet there are conspiracy minded CIA employees and to go further, I bet there is at least one CIA employee who reads these boards for his/her own interests.

--airspoon

A perfect example that truth is stranger than fiction! Makes you wonder how things like this goes on every single day, and THAT is what is scary to me.