The Special "TOP HAT" Cover on Top of the BOP has Apparently Blown Off!

reply to post by Cito


Unfortunately, they can't simply "cap" this well.

This thing has WAY too much pressure for just a cap. Plus, it was mentioned in a news article that there was something about freezing that was an even worse condition than what exists.

Besides, if they try to just cap it, the pressure still remains (or massively increases) and anything at that pressure will find ways to relieve itself.

The fissures that already exit would then be the only way to release the pressure, which would then cause the entire sea floor to eventually be the release points, taking a nasty situation and turning that into something far more catastrophic.

The way they WANT to fix it, is the only way to ensure that this pipe gets sealed.

Intercept the well deep underground, divert the flow to the new well(s), then pour cement UP this pipe from the bottom and seal it forever.

And no, I'm NOT with BP, just relaying info that makes the most sense in my opinion.

reply to post by butcherguy


I don't know about it being Sulfur. My partner has done some welding when in Art college, he has never seen the live feeds before, I showed him the two screenshots taken 3 hrs apart and asked him what it looked like. He said it looked to him like the metal had melted, that when he worked with metals under high temps the effect was the same. If you look closely at the newer pic where the blob is and compare to the older one when there was no blob, a wider section of metal has vanished and the blob would account for that....it lookslike what happens on a candle when it's been melting for a while, a bit start leaning over, drops and settles and hardens on the candle plate. Whatever is there the blob is made of something solid as it does not move. It is static. I don't know much about sulfur but I don't think gases congeal like that and form a solid ????!

Okay here is just a theory of what I think we are seeing with the yellow stuff and the yellow blob on the outside.
1) Notice there is a faint yellow orange illumination of the front mechanical parts; This tells me that they are using a special lighting (which could have explained the earlier green color as they may have shifted spectrum).
2) If the blob was molten it would be changing shape, if it was cooled molten, it would not still be 'glowing.' Therefore, I think the blog is prior white painted pipe that got covered with black scum and some got knocked off with a tool in this one spot (and is now being the white area illuminated by the yellow spectrum lighting).
3) I think the missing pipe sections are due to errosion and corrosion over time. I do not see it deteriorating live.

The above makes more sense to me after analyzing this for about an hour now.



[edit on 23-6-2010 by whatsup]

yea their relief well idea seems the best idea.

I was talking about alternate theories that if it were possible to go lower to release magma it would be a natural seal under their theory course there is no perfect answer.

people will endlessly claim to know the perfect solution on here, which instead of posting they should call BP and tell them instead -grin-

but I think the relief well is the best way, like ya said then concrete it up

Under these kinds of pressures, if this were on land, does anyone have an idea of how high into the air this plume would rise?

by the way the yellow stuff

is natural oxidation from the ruptured pipe, if you take galvanized pipe for example which is protected from oxidation but you rip it in half it exposes the middle of the metal which is not galvanized and it will oxidize.

now add to that it's a mile under water, the pressure the amounts of salt add in chemicals and the oxidation will happen insanely fast on non protected metal.

that's why it looks as it does.


this is just super basic example of non protected iron



course on images.google.com you can see BILLIONS of examples of yellow oxidation and very similar underwater oxidation to what is in this video.

there is no mystery on this part

its only oxidation

reply to post by cosmicpixie
I do know that solid sulfur is removed from underground through wells.

Superheated steam is injected into the wells in order to both melt the sulfur and provide the pressure to force it back up out of the ground.

I have worked closely with a company that processes asphalt into roofing and sealing materials. One of their most valuable by-products is sulfur that must be removed from the asphalt to make it useful for their needs.




[edit on 23-6-2010 by butcherguy]

Anyone see Ocean Intervention III looking at a large crack on the ocean floor? Seems to be following it and inspecting what looks like larger openings. All this after a rather large dust cloud... any else watch this play out?

reply to post by Cito


If that is true, which im not saying it isn't. But if that were the case, wouldn't the pipe eventually just oxidize away?

reply to post by djcubed


yes I have been watching this.

think those are the AHEM, scientists...

I am even more sure now of the theory I just posted, because I saw a mechanical arm swing in front of the lighting and it had an orange yellow glow. This is not sulfur or molten stuff on the outside!

Originally posted by DerekJR321
reply to post by Cito

 

If that is true, which im not saying it isn't. But if that were the case, wouldn't the pipe eventually just oxidize away?

eventually remember only that center where it's ruptured the middle area


the outside of pipe is still protected or galvanized.

but with the rupture if they don't hurry and work on it which they seem to be it will now eat away the rest with oxidation now.

Originally posted by djcubed
Anyone see Ocean Intervention III looking at a large crack on the ocean floor? Seems to be following it and inspecting what looks like larger openings. All this after a rather large dust cloud... any else watch this play out?

I was watching that earlier,

Saw a couple of poofs of dark liquid come out of cracks a few times.

so what happened? did it just stop leaking? i go to check out rov2 and there is nothing going on. are they just moving for better angle?

Originally posted by letscit
so what happened? did it just stop leaking? i go to check out rov2 and there is nothing going on. are they just moving for better angle?

can see all 12 feeds here, there are couple different angles going

www.searchlawrence.com...

New info about what caused the cap to come off, and the info comes from a Suicide thread?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.businessinsider.com...

Update: Now according to one report, one of the deaths was caused by a gunshot wound. Very strange. The deaths were not related to the underwater robot collision that has interrupted oil collection.

Apparently the two who died were in the program for local citizens: "Vessels for Opportunity."

Read more here -->

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Right now details are scarce, but according to various reports, two people have died in the accident that prompted the removal of the Deepwater Horizon containment cap. in the oil spill cleanup operation. It is not clear, as reports earlier seemed to suggest, that these deaths were related to the containment cap disaster.

Read more: www.businessinsider.com...

Ok, so one accidental death, and one suicide that was originally reported to be connected to an underwater collision of robots working on the well?

VERY FISHY!!

What is going on today?

[edit on 23-6-2010 by getreadyalready]

Originally posted by Cito

Originally posted by DerekJR321
reply to post by Cito

 

If that is true, which im not saying it isn't. But if that were the case, wouldn't the pipe eventually just oxidize away?

eventually remember only that center where it's ruptured the middle area


the outside of pipe is still protected or galvanized.

but with the rupture if they don't hurry and work on it which they seem to be it will now eat away the rest with oxidation now.

Yes if its from inside out or outside in, the end result is not a happy ending.
I actually think that from inside out is worse because of the pressure and the scrubbing effect of all the solids.
That should speed things up I would think.
Regards,
Iwinder

Originally posted by whatsup
I am even more sure now of the theory I just posted, because I saw a mechanical arm swing in front of the lighting and it had an orange yellow glow.

The cameras have been color corrected to take into the account the ambient color of the water at that depth. BP needs to see accurate colors in order to gauge what is happening down there. The colors on the screens and in the pictures are 100% the actual colors of what is happening.

The lighting on the rover DOES shift red, but in order to tint something that red - it would have to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out.

(Sidenote - I am a professional videographer and have done underwater stuff...)

Looks like they are getting ready to re-cap. Making sure no wires are hanging below the capping area/fins right now.

This is being shown on the Enterprise 2 feed.

do they normally pull the skandi rov2 off of the bop like this?. have been watching for 5 mins. and it is just going around in circles of silt.