BP is Burning Sea Turtles Alive And Blocking Attempts To Save Them

But i thought that BP wasn't contributing help efforts as much as the way the U.N or US help efforts. Thing that really really annoys me is that as a British person, many people believe this to be the British nationals fault, when really BP is a COMPANY, that is leasing a US controlled oil rig. Now if i'm correct, president Obama wants to kick some ass. Why doesn't he just do his job and actually help the people instead of try to sue people like a pretentious lawyer. He is just a bully to be fair. Worse than Bush? maybe not as such a warmonger but perhaps a sneaky sue here or a war here.

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Um, because they are ocean creatures that don't routinely encounter fire. You can't expect an animal to react to an action they have not been familiar with in billions of years.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
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Um, because they are ocean creatures that don't routinely encounter fire. You can't expect an animal to react to an action they have not been familiar with in billions of years.

now your just talking non sense!!!!!!

(heavy sarcasm)

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My my, aren't u a nasty one?? Uve added nothing of importance to the convo what-so-ever. Is that how disrespectful u are to everyone u disagree with? That's what it is....disrespectful and rude. Poor or not, my spelling was good enough for u to understand it, to bug u enough to post about it.

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The only people I see making this claim trying to link BP to the British nation and then add in a layer of sympathy for the bias is the media.

And the occassional compromised poster.

But I have to admit that if they can make that one float it would make for a great "poor BP" "poor Brits" distraction. I imagine we'll be seeing it being Burma-Shaved as often as possible.

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The CEO and all top level management of BP should suffer the same fate, be burned alive, covered in oil. Where does that CEO live? he that wants his 'life' back, the sea-life has no choice.

[edit on 21-6-2010 by kiwitina948]

I still do not blame BP for this.

I blame all of humanity.

I blame the hypocrites especially, for attacking BP with such blood lust, then TURN AROUND AND DRIVE THE CAR???

Then use more plastics??

Gotta be kidding me the hypocrisy is astounding.

I bet everyone here uses oil daily, and justifies it. But then turns around and attacks BP for making a huge mess.

It doesn't matter who did it. BP Exxon Chevron Shell it doesn't matter at all. They are all the same to me, "Big Oil".

As long as people keep buying the product, they ACTUALLY SUPPORT BP's ACTIONS.

I can totally see through the smoke screen here.

And the reality is that everyone is guilty, but everyone is only blaming a few people for this. Nice living in ignorance folks, I hope it's bliss.

Sadly I live grounded in a reality where it is all too obvious that ALL HUMANITY is to blame here. Not some stupid make believe corporation or government.

It's straight up Human nature that is behind all of this.

So go buy your oil and deal with your own fate.

I was going to say "I can't believe it" but I definitely can. The more I read about this disaster, the more it makes me sick.

I am glad my RES didn't read this as he would be heartbroken for his cousins (if he were able to read)...

Originally posted by muzzleflash
I still do not blame BP for this.

I blame all of humanity.

I blame the hypocrites especially, for attacking BP with such blood lust, then TURN AROUND AND DRIVE THE CAR???

Then use more plastics??

Gotta be kidding me the hypocrisy is astounding.

I bet everyone here uses oil daily, and justifies it. But then turns around and attacks BP for making a huge mess.

It doesn't matter who did it. BP Exxon Chevron Shell it doesn't matter at all. They are all the same to me, "Big Oil".

As long as people keep buying the product, they ACTUALLY SUPPORT BP's ACTIONS.

I can totally see through the smoke screen here.

And the reality is that everyone is guilty, but everyone is only blaming a few people for this. Nice living in ignorance folks, I hope it's bliss.

Sadly I live grounded in a reality where it is all too obvious that ALL HUMANITY is to blame here. Not some stupid make believe corporation or government.

It's straight up Human nature that is behind all of this.

So go buy your oil and deal with your own fate.

Astounding A post on hypocrisy that is rife with it's own hypocrisy. Not to have an air of superiority, far from it, just commenting on the perceived notions from your post.
Rather then to post continuously condemning those who you apparently view as more to blame it may help to research the history and try other routes then blaming others or citizens as a whole.
For example, using oil products which is passive blame and action, opposed to those who have an active roll such as all the companies involved in supplying and marketing oil and all its products thereof.

Trust me most citizenry had no choice on the matter. It has been a compounded effort over 100 years to get the mass populace onto the oil byproducts train. From bus company's to telephone, electric subsidiaries, tel-comm/Intel, and many more groups of corporations cropped up throughout history to force oil literally down our throats. I won't do the research for you.

But if you care to check up on the history over the last 100 years of oil the automobile and public transport amongst other related things you will find them all related at an astonishing level. Trust me you will find it much more fulfilling to do your own research as i have for myself.

You mention living in ignorance. Let me ask you a question. when you do the research I suggested and you find multiple companies, with monopolies which were allowed in their days, Who organized the oil and related products and the problems that followed them.
How can you say those who created the issue are not more at fault then those who suffer from a product and its subsequent by products as a sole option for over 75 to 100 years?

If one has only a single option for so many decades and the other energy options available to us now being somewhat withheld in their availability how is that an average citizens fault when they have neither the option to begin with for decades and current option to expensive or unavailable to them, is it still right to blame the common individual?

It appears that would be ignorance to do so.

the interviewee in the video says bp is preventing them from rescuing the turtles and the thread title says so as well but...

on a number of occasions ive heard tony hayward mention central command as being the firstly aware and signing off on issues brought up...eg

prevention of press reporters from accessing the beach cleanup exercise
-add- drastic revisions to the estimated amount of oil leaking in the GOM

and its very likely that bp is going to pull out the central command card again on this issue...

so whos in charge? bp or central command? can we get central command to explain why turtles are being prevented from being rescued?


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I am fascinated by the precedent being set here.

The administration of your country is allowing a company to act as mercenary, clean up, enforcement, and much more. They are not guiding, directing and controlling and facilitating - this administrations is CEDING to this company powers that should NEVER be in their cadre.

Fascinating and horrifying. the blow back from this event will not just be an event of environmental destruction and global consequences. It has political and corporate consequences that boggle the mind.

BP is giving orders and direction to government quasi-military structures.

While Senators try and lead a prayer group.

Is every single General and Politician asleep at the wheel down there?

I have a freind in Perdido beach. Older retired lady. She is one of the upper echelon of the save the sea turtle foundation. Every morn at 5 am she gets up and flags the nests in perdido beach.

Now I watched the video and I see one boat captain saying BP ran him out of the area. I didn't see any bbqed turtles. I'm sure some get caught up in the nets.

But in the grand scheme of things a few dead turtles is a small price to apy to get rid of this oil.

Sure.

If ANYTHING they were doing actually did that, and it wasn't example of misplaced priorities and an example of wasting money and manpower on efforts that do not conquer that goal but instead cover their PR butt.

Showing that their real priorities are far from containment and clean up and closing/containing the hole.

I really do not understand the whole concept of not letting org. or people save marine lifes...what is the purpose behind it? What is the harm in letting people save species which are on the brink of extinction or even if they are not on endangered list. These marine lives are what make the whole eco system complete and without them the place is not better than a acid bath tub.

This is nothing but a terrorist attack by the British. What's not being said is what America did to earn this kind of retaliation from the British.

Originally posted by Just Wondering
Really? Did you see it? because I ma still waiting for the pictures of the "burning turtles".
This sounds like a national enquirer bat boy story, except they had a picture!

This is nothing but sensationalism backed up by hearsay. Enjoy your thread that is equivalent to a tabloid.

First of all, your tabloid excuse is weak, here's the story on the subject from the LA Times that shows a picture of the burns- link

As far as you wanting to see pictures of the "burning turtles" :

When the weather is calm and the sea is placid, ships trailing fireproof booms corral the black oil, the coated seaweed and whatever may be caught in it, and torch it into hundred-foot flames, sending plumes of smoke skyward in ebony mushrooms. This patch of unmarked ocean gets designated over the radio as "the burn box."

As to the size of this "burn box"

The Premier Explorer, which is helping coordinate cleanup operations at the broken well, announces the day's burn box: A 500-square-mile field within which 16 controlled burns will be conducted.

Now how in the world are you supposed to see a picture of "burning turtles" in such huge areas with 100 foot flames which pour out huge plumes black smoke?

How they know these turtles are being burned is because the booms are catching the sargassum seaweed habitat that the oil soaked turtles are clinging to :

The seaweed is soaked in rust-colored crude and chemical dispersant. It is devoid of life except for the occasional juvenile sea turtle, speckled with oil and clinging to the only habitat it knows.

Don't believe that? Well here are some pictures for you from the people who are actually doing something to save these turtles - link

Pictures 2, 3 and 8 show what's described above.

Perhaps in the future instead of jumping to defend the turtle burning bastards of BP, you'll do a little digging and research into the matter!

Originally posted by super genius
its jsut a few turtles guys.
which btw, is a fraction of a % of the total amount of cattle slaughtered daily to feed you meat eaters.
get over it, if your not a vegetarian, your directly responsible for more deaths ona regualr basis. the blood is on your hands not bps every time you eat a chicken sandwhich or some tuna salad.

JUST a few sea turtles?
I hope God has this same attitude when you burn in hell.
Or maybe you'll be one of the one's who need help one day where a man like me can walk by and say "Oh, just a few humans guys, get over it." step on your disgusting face and walk on.

You #ing disgust me.

Originally posted by super genius
its jsut a few turtles guys.
which btw, is a fraction of a % of the total amount of cattle slaughtered daily to feed you meat eaters.
get over it, if your not a vegetarian, your directly responsible for more deaths ona regualr basis. the blood is on your hands not bps every time you eat a chicken sandwhich or some tuna salad.

Well turtles arent cattle, i have lived in florida all my life, my family is a family thats been here before florida was a state and my family was a fishing family, you dont know how much trouble we could of gottin in for killing a sea turtle, as their endangered, cattle isnt, so i say `this is wrong and sad, not just on BP, but those you dont stop this madness.

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There are alot of things going on in the Americas which are an act of
war. So why is there not a war to evict Washington. Some one
start one.

The bastards burning the turtles will get theirs. Sociopaths.
Obama can help a college friend who broke the law, but can't
help the wildlife or any other dam thing. Simple minded. Seems
all he does is go on vacation and give speeches. IMPEACH and
bring in Ron Paul and screw the vice president.