BP is Burning Sea Turtles Alive And Blocking Attempts To Save Them

wtf..................this is the way of corporate rule.

wake the frack up America.

All in the name of profit.

reply to post by jetsettingvet


you got it.


To the other posters here, You can't fish unlimitly, quotas are not only for the profits.

To the veggies, just because a plant doesn't walk doesn't mean it has no life, talk to a tree hugger

Originally posted by slank
The entire upper management of BP should be taken out & executed in public.

What they should do is take away all of their money.
But that will never happen because money is sacred
to the sheeple and the wolves.

Originally posted by Just Wondering
Thi is hard to believe, what is stopping a turtle from diving down and away from the fire? they are not stupid.
Pics or it didn't happen.

If they are covered in oil, they arent going anywhere. If they are getting caught up in booms, they arent going anywhere. Does this really suprise you? Have you seen the video of the security guys blocking a reporter from asking a couple of questions to some people trying to clean up the beach? This whole situation is being handled poorly and its not only from BP's side but the governments as well. Them keeping out guys that are being paid to help out (wouldnt doubt if that guy is an out of work fisherman trying to make an honest buck right now) doesnt make any sense, and honestly, thats why I believe it the most. The people dealing with this situation have bungled it from the start. They havent even stopped the leak yet for f#'s sake. I forget what radio show i heard it on last week but the coast guard was blocking barges from going and skimming oil along the coast of Louisiana and the guy in charge of that parish was complaining about that fact. I think its just to big for BP to handle by themselves. Not that they dont give a damn, just that they dont know what the hell they are doing to tell ya the truth.

reply to post by YJLTG


Are you the guys that try to stop on a freeway for every cat, dog, possum, coon, snake, squirrel or other animal that tries to cross during rush hour.

In Kansas, due to species selection and survival of the fittest, only the genetically inferior animals wander onto the road and get killed, thus sparing the smart ones to pass on the genes for sensing that a car is coming, to their offspring.

Any reason that this will not repeat not ensure that the stronger and more intelligent of these turtles, crabs, and whatever will evolve to a more intelligent and thriving species.

I believe in extinction, I know it is fantastic and great. Thank God there are no dinosaurs still around.

Originally posted by slugger9787
reply to post by YJLTG

 

Any reason that this will not repeat not ensure that the stronger and more intelligent of these turtles, crabs, and whatever will evolve to a more intelligent and thriving species.

Yeah, actually. The oil will kill off the fish, turtles, crabs, squid, birds, shrimp, everything. If they get caught up in it, they die. Hell, all it takes is the plankton to get caught up in it and it would kill everything. Bait fish eat the plankton, bigger fish eat the bait fish. Is this really that hard to understand for people like yourself? I hate to sound corny, but all of the sea life out there is important to our way of life down here in the gulf and has their own roles to play.

reply to post by I.C. Weiner


The turtles are your "friends"? Hey, when they're with you are they helping light those spliffs it sounds like you're using?

Originally posted by Just Wondering

Originally posted by Liberal1984
Just when you thought you saw it all, burning animals alive is added to the equation.

Really? Did you see it? because I ma still waiting for the pictures of the "burning turtles".
This sounds like a national enquirer bat boy story, except they had a picture!

Does your paycheck come from the government of BP? I have read a lot of your posts for a while now and I have been wondering and I have to wonder how much your interpretation of reality that you convey on this forum costs.

I am not sure what I find more disturbing the thought of the government stealing my money to pay for literary diarrhea like yours or the possibility that you come to your conclusions with out any monetary influence.

reply to post by dizzie56


Fish are not stupid enough to eat a dead and oily plankton, and even if they are the fish is stupid so he needs to be genetically extinguished.

Everything in the ocean is in a fluid. WATER
Everything on land is in a fluid too. AIR

If a forest catches on fire a majority of the animals leave the area of immediate danger.

The ocean animals are no different, the smart ones, whose offspring will be harder for you to catch, are swimming away from the area of immediate danger.

On both land and sea the only thing that cannow swim or run away are the plants. And anything that is stupider than a rock.

In fact of the case, I understand that the air and soon to be beaches are going to be toxic. The intelligent humans are in the process of moving right now, farther north. Away from the area of immediate danger.

There were a lot of persons whose genetic signatures were extinguished when Katrina hit, in spite of almost a week of warnings.

In Kansas if we had a week warning of a tornado, hell we could dig a storm shelter in the lead time it would give us.

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reply to post by YJLTG

If this is true...

President Obama needs to know about this and needs to take action!
ASAP!

Edit to add - these are endangered species... this is a violation of law and morality.

BP employees need to serve jail time for this!

No, I'm not being sarcastic.

[edit on 21-6-2010 by FearNoEvil]

Originally posted by slugger9787
reply to post by dizzie56

 

Fish are not stupid enough to eat a dead and oily plankton, and even if they are the fish is stupid so he needs to be genetically extinguished.

Everything in the ocean is in a fluid. WATER
Everything on land is in a fluid too. AIR

If a forest catches on fire a majority of the animals leave the area of immediate danger.

The ocean animals are no different, the smart ones, whose offspring will be harder for you to catch, are swimming away from the area of immediate danger.

On both land and sea the only thing that cannow swim or run away are the plants. And anything that is stupider than a rock.

I take it you dont live on the Gulf Coast and if you do then you probably dont do much fishing. Yeah, the majority of the fish are "fleeing" the oil so to speak. In reality they are using it like a grass line, that means just staying on the edge and using it for cover and ambush. If you think a baitfish wont eat a polluted piece of plankton then think again. Most fish eat what they can, when they can. Also, it doesnt take much for them to be breathing some of those chemicals in even if they arent eating stuff that is contaminated which just trickles down the line to the larger fish that we eat. Take a grouper for example, far from a stupid fish. But, if it sees a smaller bait fish just swimming by its hole (contaminated or not) it will eat it 9 out of 10 times. Saying all the life in the Gulf that is "stupid" because it got caught up in the oil and needs to be "genetically extinguished" is taking it a bit far. Its rather easy to sit behind a computer and make assumptions about how things work but in reality they work quite different my friend.

If a fish is not smart enough to swim away it deserves it? What kind of thinking is that? Why don't we just put people that think like this in an airtight room with a lock box with the only key to the door in it. Then place a riddle on the box that if you figure it out you can get the door key out. Then start filling the room with oil. If your smart enough to figure out the riddle in time you get out. If not who cares because you where to dumb and only the smarter ones survive right?

Regardless of burning turtles and the proof of it happening there are thousands of marine life at stake here. We have the pictures showing that atrocity so why is it so hard to believe they are burning the turtles also? Oh, unless you have money involved in BP stock or maybe own a franchise. I forget that the greed of money overcomes all rational thinking.

I've posted this before on ATS. I am willing to arm up and confront these BP scum in the name of freedom of the press and for the sake of the marine life. It appears to me that the Coast Guard has become the tool of BP and the American people need to be shown what is really going on.

Originally posted by slank
The entire upper management of BP should be taken out & executed in public.

Too quick. How about drenching them in oil and set alight?

Originally posted by Just Wondering
Thi is hard to believe, what is stopping a turtle from diving down and away from the fire? they are not stupid.
Pics or it didn't happen.

Try diving down if you're gasping for air because of all the oil and chemicals all over your body

reply to post by dizzie56


Dizzie
Fish do not eat their own waste.

To me, unless they are stupid, they have enervated sensors to inform them something is okay to eat.

Otherwise we would have to pass laws about throwing pebbles into the water, cause a stupid fish ate it and sank.

These are my onw thoughts and words, I am not repeat not, sent here by BP to rebut any thing.

Originally posted by super genius
its jsut a few turtles guys.
which btw, is a fraction of a % of the total amount of cattle slaughtered daily to feed you meat eaters.
get over it, if your not a vegetarian, your directly responsible for more deaths ona regualr basis. the blood is on your hands not bps every time you eat a chicken sandwhich or some tuna salad.

This must the the most retarded post I read on ATS today!! Congratulations!!

You are comparing an ENDANGERED species to cows??? SERIOUSLY? I'm not sure if you're leveling us, or if you're really that stupid...

I know what has happened is really bad, and it is - its unreal, i cant believe the devastation. But it will be fixed, it will be reversed, billions will be pumped into taking this whole problem away....

But...

Has everyone forgoteen that digging 5 - 20 miles underground with super explosive gasses and oil is an extremely dangerous venture?

People race cars,its a dangerous sport, inevitably there are crashes and people die, sometimes spectators die... they were attending a dangerous activity. - an accident.

People fly airplanes, its a dangerous activity, things go wrong, the planes crahes - an accident.

People drive cars all day long, sometimes things go wrong and we crash, its an accident.

If we as a world want oil to drive our oil driven fuel cars then we need to accept the inhereted risks assosiated with deep sea oil exploration and off shore oil exploration.

Regardless of whether equipment failed, and BP as a company failed to identify it, is completely irrelvant... Its a dangerous game, expect dangerous accidents.

Regardless of the dangers, BP have vowed to fix the situation
, and I genuinely believe that they will, every last drop of it.

Accidents happen, and with the increase of the danger, the seriousness of the acidents impact increases.

Originally posted by super genius
its just a few turtles guys.
which by the way, is a fraction of a % of the total amount of cattle slaughtered daily to feed you meat eaters.
get over it, if your not a vegetarian, your directly responsible for more deaths on a regular basis. the blood is on your hands not bps every time you eat a chicken sandwich or some tuna salad.

nice troll,stop trying to derail with off topic statements about vegetarians and cattle. I don't think Ive ever seen so much hypocrisy in such a small post before. But if in fact you support a vegan lifestyle then what makes you not want to kill cattle and chickens or other animals for food then you start your post by saying its just a few turtles. You sound like that fool who made a thread " its just an oil spill". Take your trolling posts and leave them at the door or don't contribute to the discussion.


ot: I believe BP should have the fines calculated by rounding of the maximum total amount of sea life that can fit in each boom, so even if they're trying to destroy evidence they will be liable for the total amount or more. Because if they are trying to destroy evidence they deserve more fines and charges based on those additional crimes.


reply to post by Jed1Knight


Shifting blame and allowing an attitude if enabling in regards to companies whose practices endanger us all isn't a good way to approach this situation. For starters blame, regardless of our civilizations lifestyle of requiring oil and its byproducts, rests with the companies whose practices and actions lead to these disasters. It's exactly this attitude of complacency and enabling that allows these companies to get away with such things. Because, believe it or not, many people in power throughout the world have that same attitude. It allows one to distance themselves from personal responsibility when catastrophes like this happen.

So yes drilling 5-20 miles is a dangerous venture, which is all the more reason oversight and safety should be the first and continuing main priority in such ventures. Companies who have dangerous ventures should be monitored in all aspects and respects 24/7/365(366 on leap years). They should not have any right to privacy in regards to their operations, when private or public danger is involved. And, in reality, most of the time regular citizens have little to no say in whether these companies, whether its oil or other industries, get to enact their operations or endeavors. so all in all i ask who is to blame? Its the individual and the company. The buck stops here people, its not just a phrase its a way of life.


[edit on 21-6-2010 by LurkingSleipner]

Originally posted by super genius

Originally posted by martinasdf

Originally posted by Just Wondering
Thi is hard to believe, what is stopping a turtle from diving down and away from the fire? they are not stupid.
Pics or it didn't happen.

Originally posted by super genius
its jsut a few turtles guys.
which btw, is a fraction of a % of the total amount of cattle slaughtered daily to feed you meat eaters.
get over it, if your not a vegetarian, your directly responsible for more deaths ona regualr basis. the blood is on your hands not bps every time you eat a chicken sandwhich or some tuna salad.

Its not just turtles man, there are way more animals in the area. Killing animals for food is just natural, its something we humans need. They even kill us for food sometimes, its called nature. Its way different than just killing. Even though I agree to a certain point that we are using animals the wrong way, your statement is ridiculous.

no whats ridiculous is sayin that humans need to kill for food.
if people actually had a "need" for meat, vegetarians would be dead after a few days. the only thing people need is to stop killing for their taste buds.

You vegetarians are so damn cocky. If it wasn't for TECHNOLOGY, you wouldn't survive. Might not be dead in a few days, but you would in a few months. Therefore, it's NOT "natural".

How about living in the woods for a year or two and you tell me how "natural" it is for humans to go an entire winter without fruits or vegetables (ie: your only source of food). You'll be hunting Bambi before you know it.