Deep Earth BP spill now suspected to be Radioactive!!

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by SupremeKnowledge

 

You do realize that no alternative, renewable power source exists to charge the batteries on all electric vehicles don't you. The trade off is you burn coal to create the energy. Why do you think we have not switched? You can't wish something into existence. 30 heavy development on wind and solar and they have made little progress.

Nuclear is a great, safe and clean option, but the Environmentalists don't want safe and clean. We would have had to start building when France and Japan did. The Industry gave up when they realized you can't get past the lawsuits to even turn the first spade of soil. The Environmentalists are almost entirely responsible for most of the fossil fuel use.

The gyrobus would like to have a word with you

Originally posted by The ?
? Embrace the horror,and enjoy the ride. After all,we all paid for the ticket...

Yup ! Well put (if you'll excuse the pun).

Ive just got to go and fill my car with petrol now then its off to the shops to buy some lurverly imported goods (preferably made by starving and skinny children)

reply to post by guavas

The gyrobus would like to have a word with you

Gyrobus has no advantage over battery powered electric vehicles. Quite the opposite, it has many disadvantages - high mass, complexity, potentialy dangerous moving parts, very small range (10 km), and high energy consumption per km, higher than electric or fossil fuel vehicles.

if a nuke was detonated, maybe some people saw flashes of light in the sky or something? Read reports of above ground nuclear testing back in the 1950's, it's always reported that a bright flash of light happened and then the explosion after that.

Not sure what would happen with it being underwater? possible flashes also unless nuclear technology has passed the point of those being hidden?

Maybe there is proof of sudden jumps in richter scales nearby oil ground zero? High readings of radiation monitors located inland after it? abnormal wave activity?

reply to post by churchofthepoisonmind

Not sure what would happen with it being underwater?

Neither am I, but, I wouldn't put it past 'them' if they used a nuke and kept it hush hush.

Only problem is now it's created multiple leaks and radiation.

I'll do some poking around and see if I can find any supporting evidence - besides all that radiation, which is self evident it seems.

peace

FYI. Federal Agencies Introduce Online Mapping Tool to Track Gulf Response. gomex.erma.noaa.gov...=-112.28027&y=25.79989&z=4&layers=4080+4063+3930+497

I have a question as to the disperants used and what the potential for problems will be when the leaked oil lands on the East Coast. There has been a major leak reported by the "Vermont Yankee Nuclear Plant" that was traced back to Plant by those investing Nuclear Waste in the Connecticutt River. I believe that waste is now in Charles River due to the recent floods. My question is to those that would know what can happen when the disperants catch up with the Nuclear Waste in this area would there be any a greater problem then previously talked about? Please see "Vermont Yankee Power Plant" to see about the leak and the pattern of the BP oil spill. Thank you to anyone who can answer my question.

Originally posted by habu71
Has there been any other confirmation of this besides Rense? If the oil is radioactive, sensors on the Gulf Coast should be going haywire. Anyone seen any NEST vehicles? Or vehicles with strange antennae?

The sea must be glowing green at night.

Yeah sure it might be just slightly more dadioactive then oil on the surface but thats about all and it's time for people to realise they are being panicked by TPTB as they are hiding other news.

Should i start a thread saying the oil has an evil about it from some of the american indians that were killed off and they are dumping holy water on it because i'm sure some here would fall for it.

Originally posted by Ahmose
wanted to repost this.. again.
i feel it should be seen by many.
True words.

Originally posted by SupremeKnowledge

Originally posted by The ?
WOW...The Chevy Volt!!!! I've been hearing about that for years!!! I'm going to run right out tomorrow and buy one...oh wait,I cant. Just like the Nissan Leaf and the might-as-well-be-mythical Tesla. And if any of these cars DO make it to market,most of them will be priced well beyond the income of most middle to lower class families....especially as the economy keeps tanking. Oh well...nice idea,in theory.

The Chevy Volt retails at 20,000 dollars;
Within 5 years it should go down to 10,000 dollars for a used one;
10 years 2000 dollars

Won't the batteries be flat in 10 years?

I second that line...

Originally posted by babybunnies

Originally posted by OuttaTime
I'm just not liking this whole drilling thing.

I do hope you don't drive, use electricity, catch the bus, use plastic anything, or do anything else that relies on oil as a source if you're going to post this sort of idiotic comment.

If you're opposed to drilling, you'd better not be using oil in sny form.

If you're just opposed to offshore drilling, I hope you're not opposed to $20 a gallon gasoline, and paying all the countries that America hates for their oil reserves.

Lots of people seem to be up in arms about this spikk, but not many seem to be willing to give up oil or pay more for it.

fellow earthling... maybe you do not realise that it is too far gone and your idealism is admirable, yet niave.

Ive been doing a bit of research on the properties of radiation in oil and gas and found a pretty reliable link to the IAEA that explains about radioactive isotopes naturally found in oil and natural gasses. You can find it here
It a 139 page pdf, but the info I was referring to starts at page 50 in the 'Norm in the Oil and Gas industry' chapter.

reply to post by guessing


Making a clean break from oil and oil byproducts will be nearly impossible. The wire insulation in every home is plastic as well as every power line. Even if we were to convert to another source of power, you still have to use insulated wire. And even the non-fossil fuel burning machines need lubrication (derived from oil). Electronics would be nearly impossible without the use of plastics. Phones, appliances, computers, lawn mowers, baby cribs, laminates, etc. So the moral of the story is, we depend on oil. But we need to become much less dependent on it as a primary fuel source. The less we drill, the less chance we have of having another DWH event. And the less we require, the lower the output will be on fewer wells.

reply to post by omanyes


Same thing happened in southern NJ from what I've read. But those are nuke plants. This naturally occurring, non-harnessed radiation is probably a whole different thing and from what I've read. But it's probably still not good if a lot of it escapes without controls...though I guess they are attempting (or so we hear) to control it.

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Originally posted by OuttaTime
reply to post by guessing

 

Making a clean break from oil and oil byproducts will be nearly impossible. The wire insulation in every home is plastic as well as every power line. Even if we were to convert to another source of power, you still have to use insulated wire. And even the non-fossil fuel burning machines need lubrication (derived from oil). Electronics would be nearly impossible without the use of plastics. Phones, appliances, computers, lawn mowers, baby cribs, laminates, etc. So the moral of the story is, we depend on oil. But we need to become much less dependent on it as a primary fuel source. The less we drill, the less chance we have of having another DWH event. And the less we require, the lower the output will be on fewer wells.

100% agreed.

Oil is the lubricant of modern society. Society has to stop first before a switch can be successfully implemeted. It will not happen. Society will implode. It is like a run away train.

I expect this forum will become a distant memory to us in the future. A good happy memory.

Mother Nature has a way of cleansing herself, all this fuss over the BP spill (although a serious threat); will go back to normal; even if it takes 1,000 years. The Earth has its own defense.

Although that large pocket of methane is frightening and if it exploded it could probably take a chunk of the Earth out into space..but hey dont worry!

Originally posted by OuttaTime
First, I'll post the link from GLP via Rense

Article here

This explains a LOT as to why they are CorExit dumping and spraying the oil spill. It seems that oil from deep eart, coming up through the BP spill, is RADIOACTIVE too !! This is just another bad feeling on top of all the other bad feelings this spill is conjuring up. So not only do we have the process of Sulphuric Acid (when O2 and water combine with sodium hydrate),

They tested a small amount of oil for radiation, and found it in small amounts, but there is a giant cloud of this stuff still in the ocean that hasn't been measured. Here's a link to the video

Where does the sulphur for the H2SO4 come from in the reaction you listed? Sodium hydoxide (or hydrate) has sodium, oxygen and hydrogen. O2 is diatomic oxygen and water is hydrogen and oxygen. No sulphur anywhere when O2 and water combine with sodium hydrate). So that statement is a fraud.
A huge clue to the truth of the whole thing is the grammatical makeup of the title, Deep Earth BP spill now suspected to be Radioactive!!" Instead of a simple testable declarative statement, it is a vague untestable passive voice construct. By saying "It is suspected..... the statement can be defended even if one psychotic 7 year old in tinfoil hat and jammies says, "I suspect it." As opposed to a testable proposition of "MIT scientiststs suspect...)
To debunk the pasive, one must prove that no one in the world suspects it. The active declarative can be debunked by showing that, No, MIT scientists do not suspect it.
As for the "radioactivity - What kind??? Alpha particles? Beta decay? Gamma rays?. No, that would be testable. Instead, we get a video of some unknown character with unknown credentials and what could be a homemade geiger counter of unknown quality (instead of using a mass spec to actually look for uranium or thorium) measuring something (What??) in some unquantified amount and getting some unknown unquantified result. Is it higher than normal background? What is the composition of the sample container? Oh, and chain of custody to show the 'stuff', whatever it is,actually is DH crude and not, say, snot from his 3 year old kid.
What garbage!

reply to post by 4nsicphd


I corrected myself back on page 3. It's Hydrogen Sulfide and not the sodium hydrate. My bad. I wanted to correct myself instead of re-editing the OP to make sure it stayed original. I get in a hurry sometimes
Oh, and the validity of the original link can be reinforced by the PDF file in my link half way up this page from the IAEA. It is not 'suspected' as it is spoken in detail on that link (and illustrating the decay process of Uranium and the genres of radioactive material), page 50 of the PDF. That should be enough credibility.

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Was the oil spill a deliberate act?

In the 1995 Illuminati card game, see the card 'OIL SPILL' and how the image on the card so closely resembles a photo which was released by the authorities.

Can this also be a coincidence or was the oil spill caused by the same conspirators as those who caused 9/11 (and I don't mean foreign terrorists)!

See stream.adamdodson.org...

After joining this site I've been doing a lot of reading up....and am becoming convinced that the 'alternative truth theories' are right.

Originally posted by OuttaTime
reply to post by 4nsicphd

 

I corrected myself back on page 3. It's Hydrogen Sulfide and not the sodium hydrate. My bad. I wanted to correct myself instead of re-editing the OP to make sure it stayed original. I get in a hurry sometimes

Oh, and the validity of the original link can be reinforced by the PDF file in my link half way up this page from the IAEA. It is not 'suspected' as it is spoken in detail on that link (and illustrating the decay process of Uranium and the genres of radioactive material), page 50 of the PDF. That should be enough credibility.

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Yeah, and that hydrogen sulfide is some funky stuff. Ever sense a rotten egg smell in well water. That's hydrogen sulfide. The human body produces a small amount which is converted by natural enzymes to a sulfate, which is less toxic. Hydrogen sulfide was used by the British as a chemical agent during WWI. The IAEA surely has credibility as to the decay process of Uranium, which is alpha particle emission. But what was the guy in the video measuring? Beta decay? In which case the sample probably had thorium in it and not uranium, since thorium 234 beta decays to protactinium. And how many bequerel? Why no mass=spec analysis?NORM, or normally Occuring Radioactive materials (background radiation can be as high as 1100 millirems/hr in the Gulf Coast oil regions.)www.rrc.state.tx.us...