Armed forces with M-16s down the street from me.

Originally posted by mantic

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
No offense to the OP but what is the big deal? I just dont get it. American troops on American soil? Oh my God the humanity of it all.


Now if they were rounding people up and putting them on trains it would raise my eyebrows but this?

i haven't a clue as to the case en point here. Could be a real deal temp base to a hack CO wanting to see how fast he could get a thread started on ATS

however, please correct me if i am wrong.
to my knowledge military is not supposed to be on home soil conducting military action without approval.

I see military all the time ? We have no idea what they are doing. They could be having a sleep over for all we know.


I dont see anything here that makes me think Hmm. It is a couple of tents and trucks parked?

The fences do not appear new. From your images the grass is groing up through the base of it. There is obvious guard shacks and a guard tower. These images are obviously of a local/state or national control government site. We are moving into the ANG/Reserve drill two week cycle which will have these types of events going on all over the United States.

Relax, take a pill

Seriously... what the heck is going on. There has been so much military activity around the LA area lately. I posted a thread about 3 weeks ago but no one seemed to care. Even one of my friends who rarely ever notices anything has noticed this. Not this site, we don't live in the LB area but just around LA. She called me the other day on her way to work to tell me about a convoy of military vehicles that had just passed her on the freeway. I think she started taking notice after I told her about all the military helicopters I've been seeing lately.

I really think something is going on. Like the OP said, I haven't seen this much military activity in the LA area since I was a wee lad during the riots. I suppose it could be just about anything at this point, we really have no clue. Training? Nuke false flag everyone's been raving about? Something else to do with oil? Maybe our very own Pacific coast oil spill? I don't think they'd be that stupid though, that would all but seal the deal on their false spills. Or, it could be nothing? Nahhhhhh, I doubt it.

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Thanks for the vid, good work, keep cn it and good luck.

maybe they are building a missile pad there??

its probably a amry reserve operation like said already, but you should really just go ask.

you forget that most of these dudes are american kids, and most of them are pretty cool. I've run into them doing that kinda stuff up north in michigan all the time and they have no problem sittin there bullsh*ttin with you for a while, hell they even let us watch them blow up a few deer during their artillery practice once.

worst case scenario they say they cant tell you anything and that you need to leave.

you could probably call your local police department too or some other local government and they would be able to tell you

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It was baby blue, and it looked like the UN color to me, but it had no symbols or letters in it at all. I thought the UN flag had either the UN block letters, or some emblem. It was like a Royal or Bright Blue though.

Mystery solved! This area is known as the Defense Fuel Support Point (DFSP). According to the information posted on Wikimapia, the place was founded in 1943 and stores diesel and jet fuels in 41 tanks. Only 7 tanks are above ground while the rest are underground. Below is a link to the Wikimapia page with more info.

Defense Fuel Support Point

Originally posted by Prove_It_NOW
reply to post by GovtFlu

 

This has been all week long. I just got the pics and video today.

I have no clue what this is and I'm not going to speculate.

All I know is that I've never seen it here, and I've never seen troops in plain site with M-16s around their shoulders with their hands on the grip walking around.

Have you ever driven by this site before? If so, were the tankers, tents, and armed guards posted there?

Just curious.... what is there to freak out about?

You're an American, your military isn't going to harm you unless you are causing problems. Those M16s will protect you if necessary.

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Originally posted by grom0007


Maybe we are under attack and we don't even know it?

I have seen a number of references to this, and not just here. If I were to place a bet on something other than nothing, this is it

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus

Originally posted by grom0007


Maybe we are under attack and we don't even know it?

I have seen a number of references to this, and not just here. If I were to place a bet on something other than nothing, this is it

Every single branch of the military holds, at the very least, annual training exercises that last longer than a week. These are done right here in the USA. Often very close to civilian areas.

Just for the record, I did not create this tread out of panic or feeling something nefarious was happening.

It just stood out to me as odd and wanted other people's opinions. Like many said, it could be something like training. But I haven't seen something like it for a long time. And since the oil spill in the Gulf, things have been kind of weird around the South Bay Los Angeles area.

There have been weird military helicopters here like another poster said, more than I've seen in a long time (since Iraq War started). Lots of convoys of trucks too.

All I'm doing is documenting it..not speculating on it.

This is not a "OMG teh FEMA CAMPS R COMING" or "teh new world order is taeking ovur" thread.

Originally posted by Prove_It_NOW
Just for the record, I did not create this tread out of panic or feeling something nefarious was happening.

It just stood out to me as odd and wanted other people's opinions. Like many said, it could be something like training. But I haven't seen something like it for a long time. And since the oil spill in the Gulf, things have been kind of weird around the South Bay Los Angeles area.

There have been weird military helicopters here like another poster said, more than I've seen in a long time (since Iraq War started). Lots of convoys of trucks too.

All I'm doing is documenting it..not speculating on it.

This is not a "OMG teh FEMA CAMPS R COMING" or "teh new world order is taeking ovur" thread.

Yeah, I think MOST of us can see that

So we've established this is a military fuel installation, correct? So the issue seems to be that the OP (and others) have never seen anything like this level of military activity before in this location - a location they know well.

With everything going on right now, this is DEFINITELY worth keeping an eye on. Yes, it's more than likely a harmless exercise.....but there is more than enough reason to be suspicious too.

Prove_it_NOW - I think it's time to dig deeper. Go ask them directly. You get massive bonus points for pics of yourself being carted off in an orange jumpsuit while angrily quoting the Constitution

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When you described the area you drive by, I immediately thought Gaffey street, grew up in that area. Huge oil tank reserve property that usually just looks abandoned. Weeds growing, never any movement. So I can totally understand they new movement being alarming, and a good subject to post here.

This is so obviously tied to the oil spill and should be talked about. We Americans are not used to seeing Armed forces staging in our neighborhoods.

Thanks for posting this PIN!

I would have been scared too, you never know what could happen if you stopped and asked what they are doing. They might not have shot you, but they might have started questioning you and personally that would scare me.

I'm in the mood for some Wild Speculation Time.

Let's assume the absolute worst case scenario imaginable. Per the Georgia guidestones, TPTB are starting their multi-step global depopulation plan.

The airborne VOCs (volatile organic compounds) hitting shore from the oil are wildly sporadic. One day they have a very high dangerous concentration, but the next day they don’t. Some people are getting sick, but what TPTB need is something to scare the hell out of everyone and provide justification for massive regional marshal law/ evacuations.

Those tankers could be loaded with liquid VOCs that will be driven around and released within populated areas in the dead of night. The ‘real’ clue in those pictures is the fact that all the tankers have been painted black. Hint: Regular everyday oil tankers are never painted black, because the sun would bake the oil during the day causing excessive vaporization and pressure of a fully loaded tanker. But, if you wanted to ‘gas’ a few hundred thousand people in the dead of night, filling black tankers 70% full of VOCs, that can be blamed on the oil spill, just might do the trick!

Heck for that matter, why not just ‘gas’ all the major cities within 100 miles of the coast. Kill millions of people all at once. Everyone here on ATS might want to find out if there are more of these black oil tankers littered around the gulf.

haha oh so you were that guy in the silver chevy. we were all wondering what the hell you were doing staring at us and taking pictures of us. it was just jet fuel btw, it could be use as explosives so we had to be alert dealing with it.

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Some folks are so impatient


Thank you OP for posting all you could and sharing your thoughts on what might be going on. Your initiative and efforts are greatly appreciated. Love love ATS for this exact reason

Originally posted by Gold_Bug
I'm in the mood for some Wild Speculation Time.

Let's assume the absolute worst case scenario imaginable. Per the Georgia guidestones, TPTB are starting their multi-step global depopulation plan.

The airborne VOCs (volatile organic compounds) hitting shore from the oil are wildly sporadic. One day they have a very high dangerous concentration, but the next day they don’t. Some people are getting sick, but what TPTB need is something to scare the hell out of everyone and provide justification for massive regional marshal law/ evacuations.

Those tankers could be loaded with liquid VOCs that will be driven around and released within populated areas in the dead of night. The ‘real’ clue in those pictures is the fact that all the tankers have been painted black. Hint: Regular everyday oil tankers are never painted black, because the sun would bake the oil during the day causing excessive vaporization and pressure of a fully loaded tanker. But, if you wanted to ‘gas’ a few hundred thousand people in the dead of night, filling black tankers 70% full of VOCs, that can be blamed on the oil spill, just might do the trick!

Heck for that matter, why not just ‘gas’ all the major cities within 100 miles of the coast. Kill millions of people all at once. Everyone here on ATS might want to find out if there are more of these black oil tankers littered around the gulf.

What does BS like this accomplish except destroy credibility for yourself and this site.

If you want to speculate go speculate on your blog or in an appropriate thread.

Bringing that into this thread just destroys the credibility and makes anyone reading think "oh, a bunch of lunatics with no evidence speculating on a # hits the fan scenario."

Honestly guys?

We're being attacked and we don't know it?

Where is your EVIDENCE for any of this? Cry wolf too many times and nobody takes you seriously anymore.

Reading this site has certainly had that effect for me. You guys come off as paranoid and uninformed, jumping to wild conclusions based on speculation and very little evidence.

What I see here are military fuel tankers on a military installation. The military does drills and operations ALL THE TIME. Taking that into consideration, what is the most logical answer? That they are filling the fuel tankers with poison gas so that they can go gas a bunch of Americans? That we are secretly under attack and our military has been mobilized, but not one of the 18 year old soldiers has blabbed about it?

Or, could it be possible that the most likely answer in this case is that nothing out of the ordinary is going on and it is simply military doing what they do. Training.

Honestly I think half you guys want the # to hit the fan with the way speculation goes here.

Originally posted by Dalamara

Originally posted by Gold_Bug
I'm in the mood for some Wild Speculation Time.

Let's assume the absolute worst case scenario imaginable. Per the Georgia guidestones, TPTB are starting their multi-step global depopulation plan.

The airborne VOCs (volatile organic compounds) hitting shore from the oil are wildly sporadic. One day they have a very high dangerous concentration, but the next day they don’t. Some people are getting sick, but what TPTB need is something to scare the hell out of everyone and provide justification for massive regional marshal law/ evacuations.

Those tankers could be loaded with liquid VOCs that will be driven around and released within populated areas in the dead of night. The ‘real’ clue in those pictures is the fact that all the tankers have been painted black. Hint: Regular everyday oil tankers are never painted black, because the sun would bake the oil during the day causing excessive vaporization and pressure of a fully loaded tanker. But, if you wanted to ‘gas’ a few hundred thousand people in the dead of night, filling black tankers 70% full of VOCs, that can be blamed on the oil spill, just might do the trick!

Heck for that matter, why not just ‘gas’ all the major cities within 100 miles of the coast. Kill millions of people all at once. Everyone here on ATS might want to find out if there are more of these black oil tankers littered around the gulf.

What does BS like this accomplish except destroy credibility for yourself and this site.

Disinfo Tactic: Attack the messenger if you can not attack the message!

Fact is that using one's imagination to speculate one facts ("clues") that seem out of place; is one of the best known methods to solve mysterious crimes.

Such speculations (when presented as such) do not destroy credibility whatsoever, but in fact enhance it.

The fact that you attacked my post so quickly using proven disinfo tactics makes me suspect your motives for being on this site.

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