***SECRET BONE CHILLING – EPA Gulf of Mexico LIVE & DEATH Report***

First of all I must say that I didn't read all the pages.

That being said, I was an H2S Specialist. Yes, I was the guy that they sent in to a cloud of H2S 1500 ppm and up.

If you can smell it (smells like rotten eggs) then you are in no danger whatsoever, if you are smelling it then all of a sudden you stop smelling it, then worry.(provided the wind didn't change direction - find something familiar to smell)

If it is really as bad as everyone is saying, then you would have already been evacuated. If you had been exposed to 400 ppm you would not be here worrying about it

Case in point... if there is an H2S leak on any of the sights I worked they evacuated a 5 sq mile radius, if the leak got past 2000 ppm then they moved it to 10 sq miles.


if you start smelling it go cross wind & uphill as H2S will stay in low lying areas before dispersing, it does not stay around forever.

Not really as big a deal as they are trying to play up. Been there in some of the nastiest clouds you will never hear about.

Shade

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
I am AMAZED to be the first on here to find this...
epa.gov...

It looks like Lindsey Williams needs to learn either the metric system or the difference between a decimal and a comma. The numbers are basically what he's talking about, only he has magnified them by a factor of 1,000.

Noo they are changing their data now, don't you see, they are keeping us all dumb!!

Williams and Jones are the only ones we can trust....

And boy if we don't we're all gunna dieeeee....

I don't care too much about Lindsey Williams... He quoted this EU Times article "Toxic Oil Spill Rains Warned Could Destroy North America" and EU Times sourced it from "What Does It Mean.com and they sourced it from a sole author by the name of Sorcha Faal. A thread has been dedicated on ATS titled: "Sorcha Faal... Internet Hoax Queen Courtesy of David Booth..." www.abovetopsecret.com...

If Williams is only going to the EU Times and not checking further into his sources then that's just careless.

I'm not too crazy about Williams anyway... He seems to fear "The Elites" more than he fears God and he's always trying to over dramatize when it's not necessary...

[edit on 14-6-2010 by soleprobe]

Originally posted by Gold_Bug
(at 6:34) “In the atmosphere in the gulf, #1 Hydrogen Sulfide. The levels that are allowed, according to the EPA... are 5 to 10 parts per billion (ppb)... They tested in the last few days, in the gulf, and the winds are carrying this to the shore. It scares the daylights out of me. Florida is getting it. Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana. Hydrogen Sulfide safe levels – 5 to 10 ppb, tested level this past week presently is 1,200 ppb (Oh my God, that’s 120 times safe levels!)... and you wonder why people are getting sick.”
... End of post 1 of 2.

Just a little bit of info. I'm a fuel hauler in the oilfield and I'm required to have an H2S meter on me at all times. The quote above says that the safe level is 5 to 10ppb of H2S is the safe cutoff. That's incorrect. The safe level is below 10 part per million. 1200 ppb is only 1.2ppm, so while it smells like rotten eggs, it's not above the prolonged exposure limits. The H2S meters start beeping at 10ppm and go crazy at 15ppm.
I'm not trying to make the situation sound any safer, because the slick and the airborne chemicals are dangerous. I just wanted to clear up that little fact.

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When this is announced for real and we hear legitimate agencies notifying the public i will then believe.

However, A few posters worked in the field and stated it is a concern and they are given warning badges if exposed. Sounds serious.

In addition, a simple wikipedia search tells you that this stuff does exist in petroleum and natural gas.

en.wikipedia.org...

" Small amounts of hydrogen sulfide occur in crude petroleum, but natural gas can contain up to 90%.[3] Volcanoes and some hot springs (as well as cold springs) emit some H2S, where it probably arises via the hydrolysis of sulfide minerals, i.e. MS + H2O → MO + H2S.
About 10% of total global emissions of H2S is due to human activity. By far the largest industrial route to H2S occurs in petroleum refineries: The hydrodesulfurization process liberates sulfur from petroleum by the action of hydrogen. The resulting H2S is converted to elemental sulfur by partial combustion via the Claus process, which is a major source of elemental sulfur. Other anthropogenic sources of hydrogen sulfide include coke ovens, paper mills (using the sulfate method), and tanneries. H2S arises from virtually anywhere where elemental sulfur comes in contact with organic material, especially at high temperatures.
Hydrogen sulfide can be present naturally in well water. In such cases, ozone is often used for its removal. An alternative method uses a filter with manganese dioxide. Both methods oxidize sulfides to less toxic sulfates."

Also may have caused a global extinction in the past:

H2S implicated in mass extinctions

Hydrogen sulfide has been implicated in some of the several mass extinctions that have occurred in the Earth's past. In particular, a buildup of hydrogen sulfide in the atmosphere may have caused the Permian-Triassic extinction event 252 million years ago.[38]
Organic residues from these extinction boundaries indicate that the oceans were anoxic (oxygen-depleted) and had species of shallow plankton that metabolized H2S. The formation of H2S may have been initiated by massive volcanic eruptions, which emitted CO2 and methane into the atmosphere, which warmed the oceans, lowering their capacity to absorb oxygen that would otherwise oxidize H2S. The increased levels of hydrogen sulfide could have killed oxygen-generating plants as well as depleted the ozone layer, causing further stress. Small H2S blooms have been detected in modern times in the Dead Sea and in the Atlantic ocean off the coast of Namibia.

Hmmmmmm?

Hello,

I didn't read all the pages either. I did however go to the EPA's Facebook page and considered trying to post the youtube video OP provided on their wall. I chickened-out because my FB account is in my real name.

Now that I got that off my chest, I'm going to go finish watching the video.

Alex Jones? It only takes one time to finally be right about something...

I'd like to shake his hand; hard enough to sever his arm from his shoulder, and beat the dog stuffing out of him with it. Other than that, he's OK.

RAIN? YOU WANT IT TO RAIN?

here is a little scenario to consider.

crude oil rises to surface of ocean. being black and sitting under the sun for days on end heating up and rising with water vapor into the atmosphere. now this cloud of toxic fumes and water vapor moves inland where it meets a point of the mainland where the vapor cools and condenses. at this point there are still micro droplets of petroleum and other toxic chemicals from the spill still attached to the vapor. and it cools and condenses it forms water droplets and soon turns to rain. if i were living off the coast of the gulf i would be getting the hell out of there asap.


its called the water cycle and you will start to see it in deadly effect very soon.

good luck to the people who live there.

Perhaps I am wrong, but i was under the impression oil and water dont mix.

here is an add on
the cold water holds more gas dissolved
this is why trout like cold water- more oxygen is dissolved in it

When the cold deep water warms up at the surface as the water moves with the current it will release even more of the dissolved gasses.

lindsey williams just said the flow is
4 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY

the elites are saying NUKE
(the Russians have done 5, 4 were successful- on land)

pressure 20,000 to 70,000 lbs psi
they didn't expect this kind of pressure
(1500 lbs is a normal land well )
2777 gallons a minute

thats 3 mac trucks with walk in sleepers on a 25 cent quarter


[edit on 15-6-2010 by Danbones]

Originally posted by 1SawSomeThings
ppb means parts per billion, like 1 ml in 1 billion mls, the billion is in the divisor:
1 ppb = 1/1,000,000,000

1 ppm is 1 ml in 1,000,000: 1 ppm = 1/1,000,000

Now which number is larger?

I know billion is bigger than million, that's part of what I said and i also know what ppb and ppm mean. But 1ppm is more than 1ppb like the other poster was saying.

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The Russians didn't use a nuke on formations which have 5,000 feet of water above it, and they didn't use them close to any fault, and they weren't trying to close a well this size either, and not to mention that they did it with gas wells which didn't have the pressure that this oil well has.

The gulf area is not very seismically stable, and there are several faults in it. One in particular the Michoud fault has been slowly pushing the city of New Orleans towards the sea.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/df64dc400758.jpg[/atsimg]

Using one, or several nukes won't stop this and will only add problems including the possibility that at least some of these faults could collapse.

[edit on 15-6-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

volitile organic compounds- VOCs- like benzine
they evaporate
when air cools the solvents
will fall out of the air like condensation or "dew"
they suspend in water

a fisherman JUST PULLED UP A 1 TON TAR BALL
edit spellin "Benzene"




[edit on 15-6-2010 by Danbones]

reply to post by ElectricUniverse



this is very true
the russians did 5 on land and one didn't work
so down 5000 feet is very scary

Originally posted by Danbones
volitile organic compounds- VOCs- like benzine
they evaporate
when air cools the solvents
will fall out of the air like condensation or "dew"
they suspend in water

a fisherman JUST PULLED UP A 1 TON TAR BALL

Benzine is not a natural voc, it is an anthropogenic compound from the distillation of oil.

You were probably trying to write Benzene.

See how people can make small mistakes like that?

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funky
every body knows what sniffing gas does
especially
over a period of time
so it should be obvious to everybody
who isn't sniffing gas there is a problem

that vid sas it well I thought



[edit on 15-6-2010 by Danbones]

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


yes I ment benzene
I can't spell to save my life

but thanks for pointing it out
as long as who ever reads gets the facts Im happy
well
less sad



[edit on 15-6-2010 by Danbones]

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I know, the same thing happened to me when we were discussing the 1ppb and 1ppm, I should have known better, but I, like anyone else, can make mistakes too. No worries, not holding this against you or anything, we are people after all and we make mistakes.

BTW, i am also very worried especially since I have family in Florida, but if this cannot be contained, and I don't see it being contained any time soon, it will create problems not only in the gulf area but very probably all over the world.

But the people living close to this will get the worse of it.

Are we still considering Alex Jones' show a reliable source of information? Really?!

www.epa.gov...

Take a look at the official reports from the EPA. Unless my math is way off, and 0.1ppm is equal to 1,200ppb, then this Alex Jones clip is absolute fabrication.

Originally posted by dalepmay
Are we still considering Alex Jones' show a reliable source of information? Really?!

www.epa.gov...

Take a look at the official reports from the EPA. Unless my math is way off, and 0.1ppm is equal to 1,200ppb, then this Alex Jones clip is absolute fabrication.

Believe the government then, your choice.

But he said at the spill sight, look on the other links of a universities air quality testing, they tested much higher then the EPA of course.

According to the government, the food is safe to eat, air safe to breathe, heck drink the water it won't hurt you.