THE OMEGA FILE

reply to post by ElijahWan


ElijahWan…..

Dude....MaybeMaybeNot.....

”Dude” Elijahwan!!!

First off....I don't think he's trying to embellish anything.

Please see above….. I do.

If you'll step away from yer accusations for 2 minutes you might see that the OP cares more about the CONTENTS as opposed to the SOURCE of the email.....

Please see above….. the “secret, unidentified” e-mail is the key element of this op’s opening post.

Think about it for a few minutes more…..think about the possibilities such a strong key story element provides for this thread to launch off into many different conspiracy oriented directions.

YOU, however, are much more concerned with the SOURCE than the CONTENTS....

Please see above…..yes, I am.

This OBVIOUSLY leads me to believe that YOU are in fact the anonymous source and are only arguing with him here so as to promote DISINFO!
/sarcasm off

I love a bit of sarcasm!!

See how easy it is to make UNFOUNDED accusations?

Yes I do…..& that’s why I never make such commentary in a flippant manner.

I mean seriously....the guy isn't stating "I THINK AN ILLUMINATI AGENT SENT ME THIS".....

I am strongly suspicious that’s exactly the sort of direction in which the op wanted to take this thread.

it's quite evident in the OP that he is focused on the CONTENTS....

And…….obviously I disagree with that. I am strongly suspicious the op wanted to use this article as the “overt” element pertaining to the “covert” back-story element.

once the OP was told where it could be found, he chose to CONTINUE the discussion of the CONTENTS as opposed to talking about the source.....

I am strongly suspicious the op defocused the “secret source” aspect in view of my commentary & questions.

It's people like you that scare new posters away from ATS....

That's a little unfair.....

If you really think that, can you please provide examples wherein you can show I have ”scared new posters away from ATS”?

For what it’s worth, I don’t raise things as I have in this thread in order to derive some level of enjoyment from it.

To the contrary…..it makes me feel quite uncomfortable at times.

there is literally NO reason to attack a small aspect of the OP especially when it was quite clear the OP was about the CONTENTS....and NOT THE SOURCE....

As per my many, many comments…..

I believe the back-story about the source was intended to be the key element of the thread.

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not

[edit on 12-6-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

People get ”torn to shreds here on ATS” (your expression, not mine) when they make unfounded claims, provide poor material, etc… You should not mistake objective fact finding & analysis for people being ”torn to shreds here on ATS” (your expression, not mine).

Ya i like that, i don't think that is a bad thing. I would not come here if i thought it was slanted to any one direction. I am concerned with facts and evidence not just something somebody said. That is why i asked for anybody to present evidence to prove a hoax or to help me believe I should even read this.

Originally posted by secretstoshadow111
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

 

People get ”torn to shreds here on ATS” (your expression, not mine) when they make unfounded claims, provide poor material, etc… You should not mistake objective fact finding & analysis for people being ”torn to shreds here on ATS” (your expression, not mine).

Ya i like that, i don't think that is a bad thing. I would not come here if i thought it was slanted to any one direction. I am concerned with facts and evidence not just something somebody said. That is why i asked for anybody to present evidence to prove a hoax or to help me believe I should even read this.

Secretstoshadow111.....

And.....

As part of the ATS process, I am questioning that all important covert "back story" aspect of your opening post.

You see, there have been myriad instances of that sort of "secret source" back story approach being posted on ATS.

And.....

I am not trying to dominate the thread.

Whilst it was my stated intention several posts ago to "leave it at that", I feel I must respond to specific questions & challenges.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

In my opinion, this is a ”plea for help” type of approach, the objective of which is to gain sympathy & support.

You have enough experience with ATS to know you will have people respond in your thread who “agree” with you & people who respond in your thread who “disagree” with you.

I expect that from here because, the people here don't take words on face value. I like that and it why i will keep coming back.

You were not ”being attacked”. I politely raised some points with you pertaining to a very key element of your opening post.Text

I believe you were attacking, you made judgments before even having enough evidence. You judged me as though i was someone else whom you have, i guess had the same experience on ATS or somewhere else.

That is still my position. I am still strongly suspicious that you have embellished your story via the very key element of the “secret e-mail”, in order to add a sense of mystery & intrigue to your thread.

You can stand in that position all you want. It is your choice and i accept that you are free to have your opinions.

I agree you ”made no statements saying” that you were ”trying to prove something”. However, you very strongly implied something mysterious & intriguing occurred & by definition, might still be occurring.

I though i was very strange, I do not use that email for anything conspiracy related. I do not use the email anywhere only to talk to a few people, so i get almost no junk mail. So ya it was quite odd to get a blank doc, with no sender, title or message, only an attachment titled THE OMEGA FILE.doc. I have ever had something like that happen to me ever! So strange yes!!!

That does not appear to be the case. As per my previous commentary, you appear to have strongly embellished your story via a very key point that casts a very different light on your story & therefore your thread.

Making a judgment on a post before you know any info is not the best route.
I did give the hole doc to everybody to look at, unchanged and modified. Just look at the timestamp

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by secretstoshadow111
This file was sent to my email with no sender address. The file speaks for it self, there is too much information for one single person. So i give it to all of you.
dl.dropbox.com...

Secretstoshadow111.....

The information you received in such a "strange" manner is readily & easily available on line.

I think you might have made this story up, in order to produce a sense of mystery & intrigue around your thread.

I think you'll find this sort of thing is discouraged on ATS.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 12-6-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

Don't mean to derail the thread even further, but ... is it really so discouraged? For one thing, it is literally impossible to prove such an accusation. Second, even if proven, the actual thread wouldn't be affected much at all. It's like a coroner lying and saying a recently passed loved one had a smile on their face, but honestly reporting the cause of death. No harm no foul.

I don't know a great deal about networking or the complexities of email systems, but I do know that my email has been obtained by lots of various ad companies. I've gotten some weird, weird stuff... though nothing like the OP. If I did, it's probably sitting under a mountain of junk mail.

reply to post by mblahnikluver

It would be nice if you posted a little what was in this document. You really arent supposed to post a link and a sentence. You are supposed to put some information about the link. but thanks for sharing.

Sorry i guess i did not know how to post the doc in its entirety without modifying it. So Dropbox was the best option. I still have not read it only the first paragraph and the ending one (lots of quotes from revaluation) not really my kind of thing. The root of the story here is to find out where it came from, to that i only have a couple of clues. File was last modified at 3/2/2008 at 10:58 and the author is stated in Microsoft word as Designerdemon. Still waiting on gmail to respond with a real person...

Peace

reply to post by Son of Will

I don't know a great deal about networking or the complexities of email systems, but I do know that my email has been obtained by lots of various ad companies. I've gotten some weird, weird stuff... though nothing like the OP. If I did, it's probably sitting under a mountain of junk mail.

See thats the thing here, this email is not given to anybody but friends and family and Gmail has always been really good at the spam angle.

Well got an answer from gmail, email cam from designerdemon.com... thanks for the help here guys it was a spamalation. Dont know how they have my email that rises other questions, but that's where it came from. The doc though if anybody has evidence to claim a HOAX or tell me why i should read it let me know.

Not that im calling you a liar OP, but perhaps taking a screenshot of your email, etc, that might help some believe that you actually recieved this email anonymously. Not that it would be 100 percent proof or anything though.

There's lots of information in this document, I might take a browse through it soon.

Cheers






[edit on 12-6-2010 by FoxMulder91]

reply to post by FoxMulder91


Here you go man

dl.dropbox.com...

Originally posted by secretstoshadow111

Secretstoshadow.....

Have a look at this.....

Do you see the problem?



Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Hey Secretstoshadow111, thanks for posting that.
Thats weird that someone would send something like that to you.
Im assuming it was just a spammer, but I wonder why that document was chosen.

Cheers

[edit on 12-6-2010 by FoxMulder91]

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


Hello Maybe...maybe not
Since that user is offline could you tell me what im supposed to be seeing and what the problem is?

Cheers

Originally posted by FoxMulder91
Hey, thanks for posting that.
Thats weird that someone would send something like that to you.
Im assuming it was just a spammer, but I wonder why that document was chosen.
Cheers

FoxMulder91.....

Have a look at the address area.....

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 12-6-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

Originally posted by FoxMulder91
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

 

Hello Maybe...maybe not
Since that user is offline could you tell me what im supposed to be seeing and what the problem is?
Cheers

FoxMulder91.....

Have a look at this now.....



Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


Ah, I see.
Yea, I was wondering if that user might of added the information like that.
Is there proof that user actually did that or are you just speculating?

Cheers

Originally posted by FoxMulder91
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

 

Ah, I see.
Yea, I was wondering if that user might of added the information like that.
Is there proof that user actually did that or are you just speculating?
Cheers

FoxMulder91.....

Ah, I see.

Yes.....interesting, isn't it?

Yea, I was wondering if that user might of added the information like that.

As was I, when I saw the op's screen image of the G-mail in question.

Is there proof that user actually did that

No.....there is no proof of that.

or are you just speculating?

Yes.....I am speculating & in the process showing the op's "proof" of his story is not definitive.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Interesting .

I see your point, maybe..maybe not, but I do notice the email you produced lacks the 'signed by' gmail indicator. Although, granted, I have no idea if that is significant or not.

Anyway, still reading over the subject matter.

I do find it odd that the OP said there was no address that came along with the message.

Has anyone else had this happen before?
Taking a quick through my emails and junk emails, theres always an address from the sender.

Cheers

[edit on 12-6-2010 by FoxMulder91]