The coming confrontation with Canada over the Northwest Passage

In 1812 you yanks broke the rule of civility by burning civie buildings
so the brits used that as an excuse to play crickett on your front lawn

please note: After blowing Fort Sumpter up the guy who designed my avatar got to within 20 miles of Washington which was undefended at the time, because you yankees had sent your troops to the wrong address, and Washington was only spared because the command structure was owned by the same owners and they ordered him to turn around and go home.
washington would not be the problem it is for you folks today if you would have let us just fix the problem correctly then

"Governor-General Sir George Prevost of Canada wrote to the Admirals in Bermuda calling for a retaliation for the American sacking of York and requested their permission and support in the form of provision of naval resources. At the time, it was considered against the civilized laws of war to burn a non-military facility and the Americans had not only burned the Parliament but also looted and burned the Governor's mansion, private homes and warehouses.[5]
en.wikipedia.org...

Further proof of the intention was that after the limited British burning of some public facilities, the British left. There was no territory that they wanted to occupy, no military facility that they had planned to attack, and the attack caused no American casualties."

see civilized...
(that mel gibson character in the patriot was a fictitious composite)

the Russians really don't need the extra Ice time they know we will puck them right up because we have a secret weapon...
BC skunk wich layeth to wasted the armies of darkness...

seriously we have no real beef with the Ruskies they have no real beef with us...
They know what the stats are in the war games we have with the US.
They don't want a piece of us in our own yard.
just like we don't want to have to go all the way over ther and waste all that time fighting over what we all ready have lots of here

Snow, Cold winds, Ice, and Darkness,






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I think it's in the US's best interests to side with Canada in this dispute.

If it's an internal waterway it is subject to our criminal, customs and immigration laws allowing us to demand all sorts of info from anyone that might travel through there. If it's international waters, anybody can come and go as they please.

Consider it a national security issue and back up your Canadian neighbours on this one. .

Originally posted by svpwizard
reply to post by Chad_Thomas89

 

You seriously didn't just say that .................. Canada dates back to 1535, when Jacques Cartier first discovered it.

He discovered what is now Canada for France if you want to get technical. Further note: The treaty of Paris seized the northern territories to the British and the dominion of Canada wasn't established until 1867.

reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


The British Empire burnt down D.C. not Canada.

They were British forces commanded by British officers, many of the units later fought in Europe.
1st Battalion, 4th (King's Own) Regiment of Foot
21st Regiment (Royal North British Fusiliers)
1st Battalion, 44th (East Essex) Regiment of Foot
85th Regiment of Foot (Bucks Volunteers)(Light Infantry)
3rd Battalion, Royal Marines

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Oh, one more item for Obama to hate BP for, surely Obama has enough things to hate the British about? please no more things for Obama to get his knickers in a twist over.

you guys aut to help us if we ask

we have helped you guys in afgahnistan

War in Afghanistan cannot be won, British commander Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith warns
www.telegraph.co.uk... ns.html

Already, 97 Canadian soldiers have lost their lives since 2002 in Afghanistan. Two Canadian aid workers and a diplomat have also been killed by the Taliban-led insurgency.


and for what ?
the state dept just admitted you guys are GUARDING THE OPIUM

I would hope you might help us out if it was something important


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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Remember buddy, Canada is the only country in the world who successfully invaded the US and burned its capital to the ground and we'll do it again.

Hmm, whilst usually quite keen on our Canuck brethren, calaiming that Canada invaded the US and burned Washington down is a bit of a stretch! I assume you're talking about the War of 1812?

Canada wasn't formed as any kind of nation until 1867 and didn't gain autonomy from the British Empire until 1931, finally getting full independence until 1982!! Also, significant amounts of British troops fought in the War as well as "Canadian" troops.

You're not only doing a disservice to the UK and history, but also showing yourself up in the process.

sorry my bad.

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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
reply to post by princeofpeace

 

Why, so you can come, temporarily push back the Russians and then proceed to capture our territory and resources instead?
Remember buddy, Canada is the only country in the world who successfully invaded the US and burned its capital to the ground and we'll do it again.

People, listen to these war mongers.
I think that ATS has been infiltrated.
A majority of threads and posts are nothing but we're better than you junk.
These cointel agents are doing everything to divide people and pit them against each other.

this is how it will play out. It was all pland back in 1995.

reply to post by Danbones


Actually, the number is 147.

147 Canadian soldiers have died serving in Afghanistan since 2002. One journalist, Two aid workers, and one diplomat make up the four Canadian civilian deaths in Afghanistan.

In the line of duty: Canada's casualties

reply to post by JourPolaire


oops
didn't check the date...
147
...and the state dept admitted that the troops are guarding the opium...

the Russians asked them to please stop
and the US said no...
after Brezynski admitted to creating the taliban to fish the russians into the country
then supplied them with the money and rockets and Obama bin ladin to fight the Russians
may be thats why they are rattling the sabers at us..
I guess it looks like we are with them...

"But not only is Washington attacking one of the poorest countries in the world, past U.S. government actions are in no small part responsible for the current situation in Afghanistan. The Bush administration claims to be targeting Osama bin Laden, who it says masterminded the September 11 terror attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon (even though it has offered no concrete evidence to back up this accusation), and Afghanistan's Taliban government, which is sheltering him. But as the Economist magazine noted soon after September 11, " [U.S.] policies in Afghanistan a decade and more ago helped to create both Osama bin Laden and the fundamentalist Taliban regime that shelters him." An examination of this history will reveal the extent to which U.S. foreign policy is based on hypocrisy, realpolitik, and the short-term pursuit of narrow ..."
www.thirdworldtraveler.com...




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Honest mistake.

I live really close to the 401 aka the "Highway Of Heroes" and have seen many processions pass by in the past 8 years. It's heartbreaking. But it's really nice to see all of the people that gather on the bridges over the highway to pay their respects. The crowds never get smaller. Actually, in the eight years that have gone by I think the crowds have gotten bigger each time.

I'm glad we do this... it helps people understand the severity and consequences of conflict and reminds people that our fallen are more than statistics presented on the news.

reply to post by JourPolaire


I hear you
I'm trying to expose how we are all being taken and by whom and why,
and that most of this war stuff is fabricated slaughter for profit which is foisted on us all

Harper and Martin both attended Bilderburg meatings for example
the bilderburgs just voted for war on Iran....

does that say enough?
maybe only to the choir...

I suspect its the same with the Russkies
Brzezinski hates the Russians
they are HIS goal as he has clearly stated.
betcha he hates Americans too, truth be told..he caused enough of their deaths too, as a result of what he started back then.

Like how the Georgians attacked Russia with an Israeli minister of war
and American backing and the MSM just lied and lied and lied,
IS Canada just to be another PROXY battle ground?




[edit on 12-6-2010 by Danbones]

So this thread went from, does Canada have a right to its own territory?

to

Canada burnt down the white house!
No, the British did it!
Canada did!
No, it was the british!
Oh, sorry...!

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I dont see war breaking out over if the waterway will be national or international, war if it does break out will be over the natural resources located under all that water and ice.

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Your countries different, my countries different, russia is different, so lets stop masturbating our egos and get back to the discussion. I mean really, you draw a line in the sand and say you side is better?

ITS THE SAME PILE OF #EN SAND. this is why I am pro-NWO, were screwed until people put down their god damn flags and their religion. (if you want to reply to that, send me a msg, dont keep turning this thread away from its OP)

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Originally posted by epitaph.one
this is why I am pro-NWO, were screwed until people put down their god damn flags and their religion.

I feel the exact same way these days. To hell with borders, sovereignty, and religion. These three things are destroying us. One earth, one people, one law, one currency, one solution to it all....ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT!

Flameshield On

As for the northwest passage, muh. Canada and the US will share nicely like maffia families sharing the profits and russia will be told off. End of story.

How can it be international water if it cuts through the islands of the Canadian Arctic Archipelago? At one point Canada and Denmark both have agreed to each partially own Hans Island. There is no clear path (unowned) through the arctic area. Maybe if more ice melts, then over top of Greenland, but until then it is pretty clear that the passage goes right through all those islands. Which are Canadian and Danish. The Canadian side is probably also crown land, owned by the Queen, not sure though.

reply to post by TheCoffinman


This is quite interesting.

Honestly I would totally tax that. It's a lot faster from China to Europe.

Also, I would develop a wall there. God knows that the water flow is going to mess up the weather and sea levels somehow.

Originally posted by snowspirit
How can it be international water if it cuts through the islands of the Canadian Arctic Archipelago? At one point Canada and Denmark both have agreed to each partially own Hans Island. There is no clear path (unowned) through the arctic area. Maybe if more ice melts, then over top of Greenland, but until then it is pretty clear that the passage goes right through all those islands.

Which is why the US will support Canada's claim(legal right), after being offered a generous passage rate fee from the Canadian gov, and Russia will go home sulking.

reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


Trust me. i love Canada, used to go to school their and have many friends there.

And I will quote one of my professors from Queens University.

"If America invaded us, They would have our country in 30 minutes"

However, canada and the US have one of the most intertwined economies/trade relations. so i doubt fisticuffs would happen!