please read 90 procent of air will be gone

reply to post by unityemissions


it aint always as it seems u should now that
and there alot of stuff ididnt talk about cuz there is 2 many ways this will have an impact
i gues i will be back here in 3 months whern the intire gulf will consist of oil
2 a sane person i think its obvious im just trying 2 get the oil spill the intention it desreves
wat harm am i doing ???
if evrything i say is false let the ats ers decide 4 them self please good day sir

Who let the kids out of school early this year?
second line.

reply to post by icecold7


I'm not saying it is not bad....but until this hit headlines...were you actively pursueing...the natural ones?
www.isa.org.../ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=76955

Even if you don't read it all, read at least the 1st 3 or 4 paragraphs...
20-25 tons daily spill out daily, and has for over 100k years...
This is just one of many "natural oil leaks"
taking off my scuba gear now...

So in the future, we will become the Spaceballs?

Calm down people.


Nature/Earth already spews a bunch of crap into the worlds Oceans. I'm not trying to say this isn't a disaster of mega proportions. Far from it. The thought of all the oil spewing into the oceans makes me want to vomit. BUT. The Earth is a tough SOB. It can recover and will in time. We just need to think long term.






[edit on 5-6-2010 by SLAYER69]

would like 2 add yhis very much

its a reply from a different thread:

Originally posted by JacKatMtn
Louisiana now requesting OSHA to take a good look and make sure that the clean up workers are safe:




JKM, I hope this happens, but all MSM accounts??? clearly show BO/Feds aren't giving even 1/4 of what LA is asking for...errgg....

And, From "The Official Site of the Deepwater Horizon Unified Command" (aka Govt. & BP alliance) facts (bold is mine for emphasis):


I live close to the Gulf Coast, what will I notice?

The BP Oil Spill in the Gulf could cause an odor similar to that of a gas station for communities along the affected coast.

Is the odor bad for my health?

This odor may cause symptoms such as headaches or nausea. For your own comfort, limit your exposure to the odor by staying indoors. To the extent possible, close windows and doors, turn your air conditioner on and set to a recirculation mode. If you are experiencing severe incidents of nausea or other medical issues, please seek care as soon as possible.

What if the odor gets worse?

Wind and weather will play a role in the strength of the odors. Please stay tuned to your local news stations and newspapers for further information. The gas station-like odor will likely persist over the next few days. You will be notified to take additional precautions if federal and state agencies learn of worsening conditions.

What is causing the odor?

The odor you may smell contains the same chemicals as the gas you use to fill your car. These chemicals are classified as Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs), specifically: benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, xylene and naphthalene. These VOCs can be smelled at levels well below those that would cause health problems.

What is EPA doing to monitor the air?

EPA is working around to clock to monitor air quality and keep communities informed. There are currently five active air monitoring systems stationed along the Gulf Coast.

reply by ats er



Originally posted by JacKatMtn
Louisiana now requesting OSHA to take a good look and make sure that the clean up workers are safe:




JKM, I hope this happens, but all MSM accounts??? clearly show BO/Feds aren't giving even 1/4 of what LA is asking for...errgg....

And, From "The Official Site of the Deepwater Horizon Unified Command" (aka Govt. & BP alliance) facts (bold is mine for emphasis):


I live close to the Gulf Coast, what will I notice?

The BP Oil Spill in the Gulf could cause an odor similar to that of a gas station for communities along the affected coast.

Is the odor bad for my health?

This odor may cause symptoms such as headaches or nausea. For your own comfort, limit your exposure to the odor by staying indoors. To the extent possible, close windows and doors, turn your air conditioner on and set to a recirculation mode. If you are experiencing severe incidents of nausea or other medical issues, please seek care as soon as possible.

What if the odor gets worse?

Wind and weather will play a role in the strength of the odors. Please stay tuned to your local news stations and newspapers for further information. The gas station-like odor will likely persist over the next few days. You will be notified to take additional precautions if federal and state agencies learn of worsening conditions.

What is causing the odor?

The odor you may smell contains the same chemicals as the gas you use to fill your car. These chemicals are classified as Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs), specifically: benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, xylene and naphthalene. These VOCs can be smelled at levels well below those that would cause health problems.

What is EPA doing to monitor the air?

EPA is working around to clock to monitor air quality and keep communities informed. There are currently five active air monitoring systems stationed along the Gulf Coast.



www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com...

How stupid do they think people are?

Oh, it's just causing an odor like normal at the pumps (even though there are clearly warnings about not inhaling, risks of cancer etc. at an even brief exposure at gas station)...

Oh, this odor may last over the next few days? Oh really, just the next few days?

Oh, you've lost all sources of income, but just stay inside in the air-conditioning that you may not even have, or be able to afford?

More links from the BP-Fed alliance:
www.bp.com... 1.pdf

www.bp.com...

Originally posted by icecold7

Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by icecold7

 

Nobody deserves the type of scenario you lay out. In fact, it this one sentence alone tells me all I need to know about you. You're an arrogant know it all, that thinks the average person is below you. This hubris blinds you to the truth. You desperately want something horrific to happen so that you can point and say, "see, I was right, you're all dumb" !! Plenty on ATS are the exact same. Seen that, done with it. Get a life.


I am well aware that the ocean's algae provide anywhere from 50-90% if the earths air. Are you aware how many gallons of water are in all the oceans? 343 sextillion. Are you aware how many gallons of oil are in the gulf? Millions. It's not even in the same league. It's not an ELE. You aren't even talking about the methane, which is a bigger deal. It seems you are uninformed, while attempting to spread disinfo.

do u know how much liters of water will be polluted by one liter of oil

Yes.

Woa there, buddy.

If it takes 1 quart of oil to turn 250,000 gallons of water into toxic uninhabitable waste, then it would take over 343 trillion gallons of oil to pollute the whole oceans.

There are 343,423,668,428,484,681,262 gallons of water in the oceans.

Source

4 quarts in a gallon. So a gallon of oil would produce 1,000,000 gallons of uninhabitable waste.

This means we just take off six zeros to figure how many gallons of oil it would take.

sextillion > quadrillion > trillion.

343 trillion gallons of oil would need to spill to make all the oceans toxic.

I think we're in the clear here.

Originally posted by unityemissions

Originally posted by icecold7

Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by icecold7

 

Nobody deserves the type of scenario you lay out. In fact, it this one sentence alone tells me all I need to know about you. You're an arrogant know it all, that thinks the average person is below you. This hubris blinds you to the truth. You desperately want something horrific to happen so that you can point and say, "see, I was right, you're all dumb" !! Plenty on ATS are the exact same. Seen that, done with it. Get a life.


I am well aware that the ocean's algae provide anywhere from 50-90% if the earths air. Are you aware how many gallons of water are in all the oceans? 343 sextillion. Are you aware how many gallons of oil are in the gulf? Millions. It's not even in the same league. It's not an ELE. You aren't even talking about the methane, which is a bigger deal. It seems you are uninformed, while attempting to spread disinfo.

do u know how much liters of water will be polluted by one liter of oil

Yes.

Woa there, buddy.

If it takes 1 quart of oil to turn 250,000 gallons of water into toxic uninhabitable waste, then it would take over 343 trillion gallons of oil to pollute the whole oceans.

There are 343,423,668,428,484,681,262 gallons of water in the oceans.

Source

4 quarts in a gallon. So a gallon of oil would produce 1,000,000 gallons of uninhabitable waste.

This means we just take off six zeros to figure how many gallons of oil it would take.

sextillion > quadrillion > trillion.

343 trillion gallons of oil would need to spill to make all the oceans toxic.

I think we're in the clear here.

yes very nice
but it doesn has 2 pollute evrything
if i would cut 1 mm of ur finger it would al die
this is also how the ocean works
if u kill 20 procent the rest will follow

but i hope u r wright and we aLL will be ok really..
but i read this thing will continue if not stoped 4 over 10 years
so where will we be then
the only point im making is WE AS PEOPLE should make sure it IS stopped in less then a year
im just seeing 2 much ignorance and want 2 change it but thanks 4 ur reply

reply to post by icecold7


Either you have never cut your finger or you are intentionally stating misinformation. I have lost a quarter inch off my finger before and NO the rest of my finger did not die off. LOL
The tip of my finger grew back too.

Where have you seen that this will leak for 10 years? Source?

I think you are understating the ability of nature to repair itself over time also.

It is an awful disaster, but all life isn't going to die from it.


[edit on 5/6/2010 by Chamberf=6]

reply to post by icecold7


Not sure I can take this, so putting it through a translator matrix:

yes very nice
but it doesn has 2 pollute evrything
if i would cut 1 mm of ur finger it would al die
this is also how the ocean works
if u kill 20 procent the rest will follow

(Could only manage the first five lines before it blew up....):

~~~
"Yes, very nice. But, it doesn't (have) to pollute everything.

If I (were) to cut (off) one millimeter of your finger, it would all die. This is also how the ocean works. If you kill 20 percent, the rest will follow."
~~~

There! Isn't that much better?

(I'm biting my tongue, regarding the content, at this time...perhaps someone would like to accept the challenge??)


Just to add....FWIW (see, THAT is an acceptable acronym, or 'shorthand'...):

From Simplified Terms and Conditions for the Above Top Secret.com Message Board(s)

1i.) Language: You should post in english.

There! I did it!




[edit on 5 June 2010 by weedwhacker]

How are you arriving at your number of 90%? I also don't see how it will 'destroy' oxygen.

Originally posted by icecold7

This is my call 2 all of u people with a hart left 2 take up arms against these liars..

I'm right behind you.

reply to post by weedwhacker


I honestly think this is someone who DOES speak English and is just saying all this to get attention, or stir things up or something.

Surely.... I hope at least.

reply to post by Chamberf=6
rawstory.com...

In it Michio Kaku says it could last for 'years'.

Entire species could be wiped out. Not all sea life, but many significant species of life could be wiped out in the gulf area I believe, and the dispersants must be making it worse, diluting all that oil with the water and making it almost impossible to clump together for cleanup.

reply to post by star in a jar


Nowhere in that article does he say "10 years", he just says it might be years, plural.

He also doesn't say all life in the ocean will die, much less all life on the planet as stated in the OP. Everything will not all die of "starvation".

[edit on 5/6/2010 by Chamberf=6]

reply to post by star in a jar

Entire species could be wiped out.

True. BUT, such events are occuring all over the World, irrespective of the situation in the Gulf.

(But, contrary to the exagerrated headline, the planet isn't going to run out of "air" because of the Gulf spill...)

What is far, far more important to ponder is the effect that Human activity have on OTHER aspects of this planet, in a broader sense. The Gulf is large, but hardly significant to the entire ecosystem of this globe.


Here, something to look into: rarethebook.com...

And...vimeo.com...

"At least 100 species go extinct, each day"

In just the next twenty years, or so, it is estimated that almost twenty percent of amphibian species on this planet will go extinct. That was just another sobering statistic I recall after hearing about this book, and the author's work.

There are a great deal of other species at risk , many that haven't even been discovered yet....so the count is impossible to pin down, exactly.

Certainly, it IS a part of nature, and natural selection processes --- species come and go, due to environmental changes, etc, that have nothing to do with Humans and our activities...but, still. IF we CAN do something, at least raise awareness...shouldn't we??

in response to the main post:

i don't think this is possible, and this is why

the oil itself is biodegradeable (sp?), and the dispersants they are using, while toxic themselves, are already breaking up the oil faster than it normally would, speeding up the biodegradation process. while the broken down oil could be considered more toxic, in the end it will only be toxic for a shorter amount of time than if not broken up

i beleive, if i recall correctly, the dispersant they are using takes two days to biodegrade. there really is no way the dispersant could effect much outside of the gulf itself because by the time a current could take it outside of the gulf, my line of thought at least tells me, that days or weeks would have past and the chemical itself would be greatly diluted and broken down to far less toxicity, if at all still toxic enough to kill a large enough amount of plankton and sea plants that could not easily be reproduced by nature within one season or 8 to 10 weeks

oxygen depleted zones inside of the gulf are pretty much the only worry i would have concerning your theory, in responding to the main post, so my theory of a worst case scenario would probably not be much worse than the gulf itself being 50 to 60 percent oxygen depleted for some time, a scenario that is plausibly solved by a few years of natural regeneration (i beleive the natural process of biodegradation of these products will eventually produce a habbitat able to sustain again the oxygen producing sea life and plants) and eventually the ozygen depleted zones will be rejuvinated

of course such a scenario would require no further demonstration of humans making the problem worse or somehow interfering with the natural process, which we have proven to do alot, but in the end i just can't see how your theory could hold itself all the way

[edit on 6/5/2010 by indigothefish]

Originally posted by icecold7
2 annyone not agreeing with me please do some more research then come back apologize 2 me and then get really scared

Well, Ive done my research and I have nothing to apologise about. My posts on the first page still show that your reasoning is wrong, as do everyone elses posts.

Your logic is flawed

I may have missed a 000 never was good at math
still here is some perspectives on the math

www.mass.gov...
What's the problem with motor oil?

Oil doesn't dissolve in water. It lasts a long time and sticks to everything from beach sand to bird feathers. Oil and petroleum products are toxic to people, wildlife, and plants. One quart of motor oil can pollute 250,000 gallons of water, and one gallon of gasoline can pollute 750,000 gallons of water!

Oil that leaks from our cars onto roads and driveways is washed into storm drains, and then usually flows directly into a lake or stream. Used motor oil is the largest single source of oil pollution in lakes, streams, and rivers. Americans spill 180 million gallons of used oil each year into the nation's waters. This is 16 times the amount spilled by the Exxon Valdez in Alaska!

www.mcmua.com...
One quart of oil can contaminate a million gallons of drinking water

I doubt we can guess the consequenses
we will have to wait and see

Originally posted by icecold7
i gues i will be back here in 3 months whern the intire gulf will consist of oil
2 a sane person i think its obvious im just trying 2 get the oil spill the intention it desreves

Please do come back in 3 months

If the entire gulf is full of oil I will apologise, and if it isnt, you should apologise to all of us

And please post us some links or research that proves your point. You are new here, and as a reference, making threads with baseless statements, is not a way to write a good thread. If you are going to make outrageous claims, you have to back it up.