David Icke's New Book

I think I'm going to have to throw out a few truths.

For one Icke always resonates with any true conspiracy theorist, as much of what he talks about is true in an epic mystery, allegory type of way.

Perhaps you know who Dr. Malachi Z York is?

He traced his history to Benjamin bannicker and Sacagewia. He was long onto this reptilian stuff decades before Icke! Were talking early 80s late70s all wrapped up with sitchin also.

Icke does the same thing he keeps the story the same and changes the names. Why? Cause I believe sadly we don't know most of the true names.

All these authors borrow from eachother but that does not belie the underlying truth. Science proves that 99% of all matter is empty thus reality is a hologram.

Lucifer, legion, and other fear based leaching entities seemingly must exist in order to explain the state of our world. Either human nature is evil or other entities are involved and making it that way. Could they be reptilian? Possibly. What about giants? Possibly? What about angels? Possibly. There is much information to support the existance for each of these.

I will also say Icke is out there doing things most could only dream of. His putting himself out there for better or worse. I don't believe he purposely fakes anything I think he's a connect the dots type of Guy that needs to believe. I know I am no different but would rather come to my own conclusions I don't fault him.

People,like David Icke, Alex Jones, Malachi York should be revered for making you think, instead of blindly accepting.

Originally posted by ISHAMAGI

Perhaps you know who Dr. Malachi Z York is?

He traced his history to Benjamin bannicker and Sacagewia. He was long onto this reptilian stuff decades before Icke! Were talking early 80s late70s. . .

No, I have never heard of Dr. Malachi Z York.

I googled the name and this Wikipedia article came up. It doesn't say "Dr." Is this the person you are referring to?

The other day my son and I were discussing the Gulf oil spill and U.S. and world politics. He turned to me and said, "Mom, you know that David Icke reptilian guy you are always talking about? I hate to say it, but he may have a logical explanation because our political leaders could not possibly be human." I then retrieved a copy of "Children of the Matrix" and told him to read it when he had some free time. We should always have an open mind to new possibilities no matter how strange they may seem.

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Originally posted by Erica1631
I then retrieved a copy of "Children of the Matrix" and told him to read it when he had some free time.

I have not read this book yet.

I'm thinking that I may end up reading all of Icke's books because he explains things so well, and because I need to focus on the things that I'm aware of, but they still haven't sunk in yet, because they're so bizarre and difficult to face and deal with.

Originally posted by Erica1631
The other day my son and I were discussing the Gulf oil spill and U.S. and world politics. He turned to me and said, "Mom, you know that David Icke reptilian guy you are always talking about? I hate to say it, but he may have a logical explanation because our political leaders could not possibly be human."

They could be literally priming the water to make this an optimal environment for themselves. If nothing else, they are releasing a whole lot of negative energy, which I'm sure they love. JMO

David writes:

The former Khazar people are known today as the Ashkenazi Jews (plural Ashkenazim), and some writers estimate that perhaps 90 to 95 per cent of those calling themselves 'Jewish' worldwide are Ashkenazi, or former Khazars. The Ashkenazim (Sumerian-Khazars) hold the reins of power in Israel and have done so since the country was created by the Rothschilds in 1948. . . .

Continuing:

Shlomo Sand (also 'Zand'), Professor of History at Tel Aviv University, writes in The Invention of the Jewish People that Jews never existed as a race or nation with a common origin. Instead, they are a considerable mix of races and groups who adopted the Jewish religion over the centuries. This is seriously at odds with the official history that has been carefully compiled to deceive Jewish people with a false account of their collective origins. Israel's Declaration of Independence says that Jews come from the ancient Land of Israel and were exiled from this homeland. Israeli schoolchildren are taught that this happened during the period of Roman rule in AD 70. The nation remained loyal to its land, the official fairytale goes, and pledged to return. Shlomo Sand says, rightly, that the mythical history of an ancient people traversing thousands of years before returning to their 'Promised Land' is untenable by the facts, and this myth has led its advocates to form a racist view of the world and other peoples. Sand says there never was Jewish people, only a Jewish religion, and the exile never happened. He rejects most of the biblical stories about the formation of a Jewish national identity, including the exodus from Egypt. Sand says this is all made up to justify the establishment of the State of Israel. . . .

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Mr.Icke claims that Willie Nelson is a shapeshifting, child eating reptillian... read it in one of his books about 10 years ago. Threw the damn thing away and never read anything else by that man.

Also in that group was Kris Kristofferson. Really now... Willie and Kris reptillians...and just how do they fit into the NWO? By writing some of the best damn music ever recorded?

In my opinion, if the NWO is about Willie and Kris...and Texas...and BBQs and cold beer... and westerns... and juke boxes and honky tonks...and some Mary Jane on the side...sign me up.

Regarding the name "Rothschild" and the hexagram on the flag of Israel:

The name "Rothschild" first appeared in the 18th century when Mayer Amschel Bauer established his banking empire in Frankfurt, Germany, and changed the family name. . . . The Bauers were a notorious satanic family in Middle Ages Germany and the major Rothschilds remain master black magicians to this day. . . .The name 'Rothschild' derives from the German 'rotes-schild', or 'red shield'/'red sign'. This referred to the red hexagram on the Bauer/Rothschild home in Frankfurt and it is better known as the 'Star of David'. Despite what most people believe, this is not an exclusively Jewish symbol and was not used in that context until the Rothschilds took it as their own. The hexagram is an esoteric symbol going back to antiquity, and today it is displayed on the flag of Israel because the Rothschilds own the place. . .

reply to post by Mary Rose


No, I meant what you have read thus far.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
Can you elaborate on Human Race a little please?

I don't understand the question...

Originally posted by ofhumandescent

Does Mr. Icke repeat himself from past books or does he offer new information.


Can you elaborate on Human Race a little please?

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I just got the new book and am about 1/3 of the way through it. It starts out with Icke telling his story. Then he comes up with the analogy of the computer to describe how humanity is wired to download and upload information about the world (basically a re-hash of the Holographic Universe as described in Tales from the Time Loop). He also fleshes out the details of the Rothschild banking cartel, and evidently they are at the top of the illuminati pyramid. But I am a little disappointed that he is labeling nearly everyone in this section of the book as, "Rothschild Zionist", without offering documentation of their connection to Rothschild Zionists. Perhaps I haven't gotten to that section of the book.

There is a lot of repetition and a chapter or two dedicated to talking about the perils of zionism. I did find some pearls about Obama and his control of the press (they were specifically instructed that they were not permitted to ask him about his time with B.I.C., a CIA-front company).

I just hit the chapter about the reptilians and other alien races.

There is less repetition in this book compared to the others, but there is still a great deal of repetition. He writes about a particular subject, references his previous book dealing with that subject, then proceeds to give a 2-4 page summary. It is a little irritating and I find myself skipping over certain pages after skimming them and realizing that he isn't offering anything new in these sections.

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If the human race is to get off its knees, we are going to have to come to grips with this reality:

The Rothschilds and the bloodline families are moving trillions of dollars a day around the global stockmarkets and they dictate if they go up or down, boom or crash. Stockmarket crashes don't just happen -- they are made to happen. If you know the crash is coming because you are going to cause it, you know to sell stocks at the highest point and buy them back once the crash has happened. In this way you can increase your holdings massively by acquiring companies at a fraction of the cost before your manipulated collapse.

I did read the biggest secret and children of the matrix. I didn't continue read his books due to two reasons.

First reason is too much negative without positive. Yes, it's normal to find many negative out there, but what about positive part. He show us many negative ones and no positive solution on how we can stop it. You can't read his book and feel empower in ourselves that we can make the change. If you read his book, then you will end up disgusted, loathed, pissed, insulted, etc toward to our society on how they manipulated us. I don't think anyone who read his books did feel great and see the positive in future instead we see our future in lost cause.

Second reason is reference. There are many information his books that I appreciated him to included. However, there are some questions in his arguments and I did ask him to give me reference on where he found those information. I want confirm on his claims. So far, I got none and the books have little reference included.

Maybe it's good to read one or two books of his, but it's not worth to continue read his books as it doesn't bring any enlightenment for human being. It's downfall for human being. It's my opinion.

Max Keiser also talks about the role of high-frequency trading (HFT) in the global financial meltdown:

The Rothschild money system today is run by a network of supercomputers that connect with those of the stock exchanges and money markets and operate a virtual monopoly called 'high-frequency trading'. This represents 70 per cent of the volume on the exchanges and can process millions of trades per second. It has expanded the daily speed at which the wealth of the world can be seized and the global economy destroyed at will. Through a system called 'predatory algorithms', supported by artificial intelligence, the major players are able to dominate world finance as never before. They pay large fees to access the Stock Exchange computers to see potential trades before they are made and then use the fantastic speed of their own supercomputers to make the trade first. Smaller traders have got no chance of competing and the Rothschild cabal controls everything.

The understanding of terminology that people use - that is knowing how a person is using a term when making assertions - is crucial, I think.

This passage from the book is extremely important, in my opinion:

Zionism is, at its core, a secret society connected to all the others in the global web, and its 'bibles' are the Babylonian Talmud and the kabala/kaballah/cabala, its 'hidden tradition' of esoteric knowledge. This comes from the Arab word, 'Khabba', which means 'to hide' or 'to conceal'. How appropriate it is, then, to speak of the elite 'cabal', which survives by hiding and concealing. Zionism was not established for the benefit of the Jewish people, but to exploit them and use them as a cover for the manipulations of the House of Rothschild and the Illuminati families. This merciless political creed is a 100 per cent Rothschild creation and represents a major force in the bloodline network. I shall refer to it from here on as 'Rothschild Zionism' to constantly underline who and what it truly represents.

Originally posted by Aslpride
I don't think anyone who read his books did feel great and see the positive in future instead we see our future in lost cause.

I think that David's message is that we must face the truth as step one. I feel that he is positive in his overall message, which I interpret to be that it's up to us to change the way the world is by not cooperating with the New World Order agenda. There are many more of us than there are of them. We just need to keep spreading the word and changing ourselves.

Originally posted by Aslpride
Second reason is reference.

David cites where he gets information within the text of his books and he includes a bibliography.

To recap what I've already posted, there are two books cited that state things that amount to alternative history.

The Mythic Past challenges the belief in a biblical Israel based on archaeological and linguistic research.

The Invention of the Jewish People states that Jews never existed as a race or nation with a common origin; they are a considerable mix of races and groups who adopted the Jewish religion over the centuries.

Additionally, the Rothschilds are not a family of biblical Jews; they are Sumerians, who became "Khazars," who adopted Judaism, and became known as Ashkenazi Jews.

Some writers estimate that perhaps 90 to 95 per cent of those calling themselves "Jewish" worldwide are Ashkenazi Jews, or former Khazars.

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I wish it did happen to me, but I read both book with anger toward to government, corporations, rich people, etc. It has nothing do with David Icke, but my disgusting toward to America citizen included me allowed those stuffs happen in America. I know they have centuries in developing to reach their goals, but we should uphold the basic concept of our forefathers who foundered America in simple concept of "We the People". To this point, I feel that I can't really fight them unless I have money and power. Right now, the corrupted people who control us have money and power. It's mean that we have to go back to square one and pay the price with our blood to take it back. It's only solution at this moment and it's not possible thought. Again, it's me.

For reference, he did included numbers of reference, but not all of them especially on some very serious claims on certain information that he can't give me reference on the conclusion of his claims.

Originally posted by Aslpride
To this point, I feel that I can't really fight them unless I have money and power. Right now, the corrupted people who control us have money and power. It's mean that we have to go back to square one and pay the price with our blood to take it back.

I think there's hope of taking it back without a shooting war.

And I think that we should not fight them by mass demonstrations because I think those days are over - the media will not be on our side and basically we're in a police state now and it's too dangerous.

But I think this internet is extremely powerful. If we can keep plugging along communicating with each other, maybe enough people will wake up and then refuse to cooperate with our controllers. We also need to do things like support the idea of state-owned banks and/or establishing an alternative local currency. If we could get control of our monetary system, I think we could then get our freedoms back.

Originally posted by Aslpride
For reference, he did included numbers of reference, but not all of them especially on some very serious claims on certain information that he can't give me reference on the conclusion of his claims.

Maybe he is protecting sources for security reasons. I personally trust that if he could tell us, he would.

Originally posted by Mary Rose

Zionism was not established for the benefit of the Jewish people, but to exploit them and use them as a cover for the manipulations of the House of Rothschild and the Illuminati families.

I think this is one of the most important concepts that needs to be learned:

The Rothschilds and their agents have created a pincer-movement on the human psyche by hijacking fantastic amounts of political, corporate, banking and media power on one side, and, on the other, using the fear of being called 'anti-Semitic' if you dare to state the bloody obvious. They have been able to do this by equating in public perception that Zionism = Jewish people. It does not.