NASA: Is Approaching Space Object Artificial?

Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by Bigfoot73
There is one piece of space junk which defies explanation as being of human origin. 1991 VG is about 10 metres across and is in a 50 year orbut around the sun. When observed it appeared to be shiny, metallic and faceted .
NASA have not attempted to explain it actually , they have just turned a blind eye to it.
Definitely worth a Google.

So, you offer your own ignorance as proof the object has no earthly explanation, and you trust google to find all relevant info? Didn't you read about the spectral analysis of the white color and its relation to NASA spacecraft exterior paint?

After all, it is pronounced vee-jer, sort of....

Did you Google it? do you offer your own ignorance as a counterargument for his?

-rrr

Originally posted by Mikey Sly
reply to post by One Moment

 

What was really interesting was there was a poster a few weeks back that did a whole series with an incredible amount of work and research and facts that suggests that aliens have been here in the past and they may be the origin of our religions and lore.

After reading the posts it was hard to not at least acknowledge the possibility we have had visitors, and if that's the case there's no reason not to expect that they are here or will return at some time.

Can you post the link of the thread you're referring to? I appreciate it.

I always like reading well-thought out articles, and this sounds real interesting!

reply to post by JimOberg


So you call people morons then hit them with this... "seems to indicate to open minds that NASA provides information pretty fully and completely on subjects such as these."...

Fully? You're telling us that the Government Agency which is NASA harbors NO classified information? At all?

I understand that you work there so I can see why you would come off so condescending towards people always complaining of a NASA cover-up. I also understand that you are an intelligent man but I can't understand why you can't let that speak for itself. No need to belittle others. Whether you personally know it or not you are lying right now.

ETA: Your post also seems to indicate that in the event of... lets say an inbound alien spacecraft that NASA's SOP would be to alert the presses and I know that isn't true.



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Originally posted by nomadros
Highlights of my trawl of the net over the past few days.

It's circular, but whether that means that we're seeing it end on or not, I don't know.

It's about 5.7m across and finished in UV aged titanium oxide paint.

It's supposed to have done this (gone passed us) in 1975 as well.

It's not one of Nasa's as every rocket stage is accounted for.

If it is Russian it might belong to a clandestine mission that went wrong (i.e. space grave)

Nasa states that it artificial and of unknown origin, but probably an old rocket stage (I think the last bit is to stop massed heart attacks)

A critical and expected point not mentioned in the above is that there is no mention of the object tumbling. Such is fouund in almost all irregular-shaped space objects and a spent booster would be no exception.

The term "it's circular..." is unclear and interesting. Surely, it can be determined if the thing is tube-shaped as would be a booster versus giving it a circular description.

Originally posted by Faiol
whats the freaking big deal

another misinformation here on ATS

people just forgot to actually read the thing ... its our object, its not theirs or whatever

How is this misinformation????

Yeah...'read' you say? But sometimes one has to 'read' between the lines.

If this wasn't a 'big deal' then why did NASA put it out there?
Surely, they've lost 'things' (ie boosters) before so again, why the media attention???

C'mon man. They never ever acknowledge our questions about UFOs. And in the rare times they do, they chalk everything off as 'debris'.

Please people, stop wanting to believe and looking for confirmation. Just 'know'. We're not going to get confirmation by 'them'.

For 'they' are working against our truth. Whether some of the top people know it or the bottom people are just innocently part of their (the top players) agenda.

Check out David Sereda's findings. What does NASA say about this? "Space debris"



Sometimes logic overcomes the 'read' (words).

Originally posted by Th3 iMolateR

Originally posted by Mikey Sly
reply to post by One Moment

 

What was really interesting was there was a poster a few weeks back that did a whole series with an incredible amount of work and research and facts that suggests that aliens have been here in the past and they may be the origin of our religions and lore.

After reading the posts it was hard to not at least acknowledge the possibility we have had visitors, and if that's the case there's no reason not to expect that they are here or will return at some time.

Can you post the link of the thread you're referring to? I appreciate it.

I always like reading well-thought out articles, and this sounds real interesting!

Certainly

Here you go

Part 1: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Part 2: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Part 3: www.abovetopsecret.com...

They are long but well worth the read

Originally posted by jimmyx
maybe this object was sent into our location from another race of beings trying to contact us without the use of manned craft. too bad it could not be captured or examined, since NASA says that they have no idea what it is...you would think they would have a little more curiosity in this.

Maybe it will be later once they get a closer look. Then again, they see a lot of things in the sky I'm sure. I would say they don't have it in their budget to chase after "space junk." I would imagine it would cost a lot of money to retrieve it, get a hold of it, and bring it back. I think Pres. O also reduced their budget this year.

to user "arar...", re:

If other alien species do exist, isn't there a chance they could be involved in wars too (with each other)? Maybe even with others that they've come in contact with? Who knows.

Side note: If I were an alien observing Earth for intel beforehand, I would see all the crazy wars going on and make sure I come prepared. I also would not meet with the a-holes who start and do all this mess. Actually after observing, I probably wouldn't be interested in dealing with any of the things that go on here. Instead, I might keep a few hundred varieties of humans for research, euthanize the rest, and study the remaining ones to see if there is any hope for them.

I compare humans to ants from the POV of aliens, but even that is not a fair comparison since I don't think ants in the same colony kill each other. Anyway, I think humans see ourselves as intelligent, but to another highly superior being, we might be only worth squashing.

reply to post by smurfy


Hi Smurfy,
It was Steel's report that I had originally read, and I have no other sources on 1991 VG. Personally I think if something looks as artificial as that, then it probably is.
Thanks for the links.

Reminds me of my favorite Arthur Clark novel Rendezous with Rama. A definite must read if your into this sort of thing for sure!

Originally posted by Mikey Sly

Originally posted by Th3 iMolateR

Originally posted by Mikey Sly
reply to post by One Moment

 

What was really interesting was there was a poster a few weeks back that did a whole series with an incredible amount of work and research and facts that suggests that aliens have been here in the past and they may be the origin of our religions and lore.

After reading the posts it was hard to not at least acknowledge the possibility we have had visitors, and if that's the case there's no reason not to expect that they are here or will return at some time.

Can you post the link of the thread you're referring to? I appreciate it.

I always like reading well-thought out articles, and this sounds real interesting!

Certainly

Here you go

Part 1: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Part 2: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Part 3: www.abovetopsecret.com...

They are long but well worth the read

Thank you sir. I'll def start start reading this tonight.. all together its as long as a book! lol Good stuff.

This may very well be a chance for NASA to earn some credibility by telling the truth about something that they know wont lead to disclosure.

Originally posted by jimmyx
maybe this object was sent into our location from another race of beings trying to contact us without the use of manned craft. too bad it could not be captured or examined, since NASA says that they have no idea what it is...you would think they would have a little more curiosity in this.

Maybe this is why they sent up the x37b in April, to get a closer look or even retrieve it.

Originally posted by Archirvion
Wake up and use the brain. UFO disclosure??? are you freaking kidding me..Do you want a darn Ufo smashed inside your house to wake up? !!!!!!!

Woah, yes please.
And if it can hit my car on the way in too, that'd be okay too. I'd just be as freaked out as I was the first time a saw Planet of the Apes. Seriously though, that would make me a believer in the zealot sense, and it'd be super cool to watch from the back yard.

That was real life version of Death Star from Star wars

Whew!( wipes brow) ill thank NASA for putting this one to bed, if it was megatron or unicron, we'd be in a world of hurt......well, more so than we are already.

Check out David Sereda's findings. What does NASA say about this? "Space debris"

Hi, the first time I watched David Sereda's interpretation of the STS footage, I thought he was making sense, until I realised... this guy has obviously never looked through a telescope/long lens before!

The "bright disks" he makes all these calculations on are out-of-focus bright objects. I must confess to being fooled myself the first time I used a telescope. I had borrowed one from the store where I had a scope on order, and spent the night convinced I was seeing a bright Jupiter with a black moon dead-centre in front of it.

It turns out that the image was way way out of focus. When focussed properly, Jupiter became a much much smaller bright light in the viewfinder.

So, whatever those "disks" are in the STS video, they are definitely not large circular craft. More than likely, they are bits of debris/ice crystals close to the ISS and out of focus since they were trying to focus on the distant tether.

Don't take my word for it, though. If you know somebody with a telescope, have them focus on a distant bright object, and then slowly turn the focus wheel - the effect will be the same as in the STS video of the tether.

If someone is able to do this and snap before and after pics, it will go a long way to clearing this up. Unfortunately my scope is in storage, or else I'd do it.

Regards

It seems very odd that Nasa is even flagging something like this.

Could be a well choreographed mission for us to encounter a strange foreign object that can start a debate on this planet for a year or so before something more significant turns up.

A critical and expected point not mentioned in the above is that there is no mention of the object tumbling. Such is fouund in almost all irregular-shaped space objects and a spent booster would be no exception.

The term "it's circular..." is unclear and interesting. Surely, it can be determined if the thing is tube-shaped as would be a booster versus giving it a circular description.

I believe that is a very good point. It would be easy to confirm a debris type object tumbling but no mention of it in the reports.

In my opinion NASA should not be believed, given the history of not acknowledging UFOs . It is a more devious plan they are conducting here if they are presenting this info (disinfo) to public.

It is Apollo 19.

Lost due to error during lunar insertion 1975.

Three bodies aboard including the first female in space who is also the first African American in space.