Have you started making provisions?

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Great suggestion about hemp, but I've never tried it, and Luxus says it's tastes horrible. I'm guessing there must be good recipes out there, but first, where would be a good place to buy it?

I can't recall seeing it at Costco...

JR

Originally posted by LUXUS
I was thinking about how people would flee the city on mass if something went down. Some major roads could be damaged and closed off making travel very difficult. There would be serious traffic everywhere, cars would be useless. I was thinking how handy an off road dirt bike could be in such a situation ;-)

ive often thought of this too. infact last week i went and bought one of those big foldout maps of my area (getting harder to find...i had to go to 4-5 stores before i found one )

ive got an open road route, and an off-road route. im thinking of getting one of those quad ATV things. a pair of those with a little trailor might make for a decent off road caravan style family escape.

for the last 16 months i've been both buying and rotating my pantry/larder

here on memorial day, i drove my electric car to Bi-Lo expecting to purchase anoth 10-20 cans of various types of vegs, peas/corn/beans/etc
and another batch of 10-20 cans of fruits like fruit-cup/peach/pear/pineapple/etc

but had to break-off that mission, as the stuff was outrageously priced...
$1.5 for veges & $1.8 for fruits...
ithe last stock up run was for .46 for cans of veges...and fruits were below .85 per can.

so... just having enough of the lower priced cans that need rotated & used
is helping me to endure until the next holiday when the sales get pumped at the store to move the too high-priced canned goods (they have to rotate their stock too---or it gets thrown out)


its just a good practice to have 3-4 months of 2 full meals per day of goods in one's pantry

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i got mine at www.hempusa.org (shipping was quick)

its not that bad lol. i mean for a raw food i think its actually really tolerable by itself.

its easy to mask too. for instance using milk instead of water masks like 85% of it (to me).

and the seeds taste like sunflower seeds. i snack on them lots

I only tried hemp shakes so never did any baking with it, could be nice as cookies.

You can get natural flavours to add to it, dried berries or something like that could transform it. When I tried making water/Hemp shakes used to make my hair stand on end !

As for protecting yourself from desperate people I think this should be considered, those who are bad minded at present only refrain from doing bad to others because of the threat of legal action. Remove the threat of legal action and they will all show their true colours!

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very true, throw in some hunger and people can get REAL desperate.

i think it would be wise to have a firearm, and then a backup weapon incase they try to confiscate the guns. mines a crossbow, they have small 80 pound draw ones that are really cheap, and small like a pistol, sharpened pencils make good cheap ammo. i cut the little wings out of electrical tape.

also make hard copies of information you will need later. the internet may not always be here or accessible.

army field manual 21-76 survival, is a good one to print up.

where I live you cant own a firearm without a special licence and a very good reason so out of the question. I was thinking those very powerful catapults you can purchase and a bag of steel BBs, would be fast to load and offer good protection too.

Other then hemp any other complete food stuff recommendations?

I've got the best setup: a big sailboat. Remember, if TSHTF big time, you won;'t be able to get any fuel. A sailboat can go anywhere in the world, for free. It is truly a free energy machine.

I've got a watermaker for unlimited pure water, and loads of fishing tackle and spearfishing gear. The boat is stocked with 100 lbs of brown rice, 100 lbs of beans, and 100 lbs of coffee, all vacuum sealed. I figure I could easily last six months with six people on that alone. Throw in lots of fish and lobsters and I could last a long time. The boat is steel, so is bulletproof, at least from small arms fire. I have a good stock of weapons too.

If the SHTF all I have to do is make it to the boat, and I'm gone. I can go anywhere. If I lived on the boat I would be totally ready all the time. There will be utter chaos in all big cities, many people will die. It will be very difficult to get out. Everyone will run out of gas within three days, and start fighting over food. But I can just sail off into the sunset. Of course, if TSHTF everywhere, then where am I going to sail off to? I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

I also have these three books,

here

that should be in everyone's library. Back in the seventies, they interviewed all the oldest rural and mountain people they could find, who had lived self sufficiently through the depression and then some, and asked them how they did everything. They got all their knowledge of every aspect of living; how to plant crops, how to build a log cabin, how to raise livestock, how to dress a hog, how to make furniture, even how to make banjos and guitars. Everything. . With these books you can completely live off the land. As long as you can get out of the big cities.

I've also seen some books that tell you all about how to make a forge, and produce an entire machine shop from SCRATCH. Amazing. THese would be key books to have too.

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Aha but what happens if there is flooding, by the time you get to the dock to pick up your boat it could be sitting at the top of a tree :-)

I seen when there was flooding all the boats at the dock got totally wrecked, smashed into each other etc

I'm going to guess that in a FLOOD a BOAT would be a little more useful than your CAR or an ATV, especially if you HAVE NO FUEL FOR IT......

In NINETEEN hurricanes, including Andrew and Wilma, I have not yet lost a boat. Maybe that's because I know what I'm doing, unlike most others....

These books would be invaluable in the event of the collapse of society:

www.lindsaybks.com...

You can melt aluminum, pot metal, and even brass with a very simple home built furnace fueled with grocery store charcoal. In a very few minutes you can melt beer cans, your wife's pots and pans, the siding off your neighbor's house, the pistons out of your car, and anything else you can beg, borrow, or steal.It costs very little to build, and it works incredibly well.

Build a Complete Metalworking Shop from Scrap! The Legendary Series of Machine Tool Construction Manuals

confirmed:

ovaltine masks the hemp taste well

3-4 scoops to every 1 scoop hemp

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I have not started as of yet, but I figure when tshtf does occur many people wont be able to travel with all the supplies they have, if you got to travel light I meen. As far as people doing so more power to you all and good luck, oh and just in case watch the native born pirates in whatever location you may be within.