Latest 2010 information regarding Nibiru/2012 here

cmongo-4:
"What happened to decorum and civility?
Calling people fools because they do not believe what you believe is the height of the ignorance this site is "suppposed" to be about.

No one has proved anything about anything 100%. NOTHING IS 100%.
That's why you "believe" something, or have faith in it. Or not, depending on which side of the fence you are on.
If you wish not to believe in Nibiru, bully for you mate, but don't go trashing somebody because they do."


Thankyou for this comment! Its as if there can be no free speech or opinions on here outside of the ATS herd on this site.


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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by rajaten

 

Rajaten.....

Unfortunately you are "up against it" with this Nibiru stuff.

I know but I want to stay open to what new evidence might come up over the coming year, im not convinced either way on 2012 or nibiru, hopefully new events or information will arise making things clearer whether or not this is a real threat to us.

Originally posted by gamma 49
reply to post by Murky

 

Are you blind look at the world around you dude its comming apart at the seams.

Which presents no evidence at all that it's being caused by a brown dwarf that the professional astronomical community hasn't acknowledged.

reply to post by gamma 49


Yeh theres surely something to it, even if its just a few tsunami's and earthquakes.

reply to post by Murky


Have you considered that the astronomical societies are being controlled or influenced by a NWO or government to prevent panic?

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Originally posted by rajaten

I know but I want to stay open to what new evidence might come up over the coming year, im not convinced either way on 2012 or nibiru, hopefully new events or information will arise making things clearer whether or not this is a real threat to us.

Ian O'Neill
2012: No Planet X
www.universetoday.com...

O'Neill is a solar physics doctor/science writer. I like him because he can make his point without going over my head. But that's just me. Give him a shot.

Originally posted by rajaten
reply to post by Murky

 

Have you considered that the astronomical societies are being controlled or influenced by a NWO or government to prevent panic?

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This is a valid point you are making, take the global warming campaign, it still pushes forward yet how many people stop to think what scientists do for a living?

They depend on funding to conduct research and therefore hopefully make discoveries. Who funds most scientists? Companies or goverment is the answer. Therefore if a scientist chooses to speak out against work that he/she is conducting then its goodbye to their funding and goodbye to their reputation and lastly goodbye to their career.

I am not stating that this is the case across the board, however where the big sums of money are poured into research there is no doubt that the chances of corrupting the 'facts' to support an agenda are more prolific.

If I was a scientist and my wife and child depended upon my income, I would have to think long and hard before protesting or coming clean.

This is not limited to just science either, look at the military, law enforcement, politics..... Most enter these professions to 'make a difference' for the better but soon learn they have to 'tow the line' and play the game if they want to advance up the ladder or in some cases just hold onto their jobs.

Then 'Deniers of Ignorance' come along and link 'quality evidence' from a website, do they know what the internal politics are of this agency/company/govenment are? No. Can they always prove the data is accurate? No.


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reply to post by rajaten


Hey girl, I am totally with you, and I am sick to DEATH of all the freaking trollers around here who just get off on blasting posts due to their own ignorance.

Anyways, I do think it is important to have an update thread about Nibiru, because its out there- we just cant prove its there yet, because its not come out yet in full disclosure. But it will- and then we will be the ones to point the fingers laughing!

reply to post by Skellon


Very interesting. Im sure that any reputable astronomer that came out and reported an unknown object travelling towards us would be quickly labelled a crackpot and fired or would be completing his final tenure as a professor or whatever the contracts are these scientists work under.
Threaten a man's livelihood or income and he will usually play ball.

reply to post by xynephadyn


Thankyou for your support. Your opinions are welcome here.

Originally posted by rajaten
reply to post by Murky

 

Have you considered that the astronomical societies are being controlled or influenced by a NWO or government to prevent panic?

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If that would have happened, it would have happened in IPCC's favor when BO and all the other control freaks were trying to impose carbon taxes on the world. But there is considerable academic dissent from the climate change thesis, and the world's governments tolerate it.

There are SO many frauds disseminated over YouTube (Mythbusters debunked their "LEGO ball" video a few weeks ago) that I've learned to look for other information to verify a YouTube video that looks dodgy.

The consensus AND physics both indicate there's no connection between seismic activity on Earth and a brown dwarf that NO reputable astronomer has reported.

Originally posted by Pauligirl

Originally posted by rajaten

I know but I want to stay open to what new evidence might come up over the coming year, im not convinced either way on 2012 or nibiru, hopefully new events or information will arise making things clearer whether or not this is a real threat to us.

Ian O'Neill
2012: No Planet X
www.universetoday.com...

O'Neill is a solar physics doctor/science writer. I like him because he can make his point without going over my head. But that's just me. Give him a shot.

Nice article. strong evidence against the reports of nibiru used in the article. Although Mr O'Neill does say "Still, to keep an open mind, there could be more large bodies to be discovered (that might explain why there is such a steep drop-off of Kuiper Belt objects at the "Kuiper Cliff" "

I think planet x exists, due to the natue of the terms true meaning. I dunno bout nibiru though, its never resonated, its as though we'll have bigger fish to fry anyway.

But heres a little mystery for ya,
www.barry.warmkessel.com...
www.barry.warmkessel.com...

Our Sun's half Jovian sized dark star companion generates five comet swarms that somewhat periodically pass through the inner solar system

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/fe480d265df8.jpg[/atsimg]

A theory (dubbed Astro-Metrics) has been proposed that most stars with solar systems have had their planets formed with the aid of another star or unseen stellar companion. This theory suggests our solar system was formed with the aid of a dark star, dubbed Nemesis by many modern astronomers but referred to as Vulcan by the ancients. Such a dark star may have been already detected by the Infrared Astronomical Survey (IRAS) satellite. Reports suggest that IRAS found no dark star companion to our Sun but a review of the data indicates that one of these IRAS objects was never firmly identified. Detection of an astronomical object exhibiting possible parallax is an indication that it could be our Sun's dark star companion. Further, this IRAS object is at a relatively high declination, just as the Astro-Metrics theory requires.
The IRAS object accompanied by data from other sources have been utilized to determine an orbit and mass for Vulcan. It is estimated to orbit the Sun with a period slightly more than 5000 years in an oval shaped orbit which is highly inclined to the orbit of Earth and the other planets within our solar system. It passed farthest point from the Sun between 1969 and 1971, at a distance about 453 times farther away from the Sun than is the Earth.

Vulcan draws meteors from a distant debris clouds (the Kuiper belt and the Oort cloud) that astronomers believe exists in the far reaches of our solar system. These meteors fall towards Earth in trajectories related to Vulcan's orbit, becoming long-period comets, possibly composed of toxic compounds, occasionally pass near Earth's orbit, sometimes striking it with disastrous consequences. These collisions are the basis of various "catastrophism" observations. It is suspected that a large swarm of meteors collects in a special resonant orbit, one where three revolutions of the swarm about the Sun equals almost exactly twice the dark star's period. These meteors are seen on Earth as long- period comets. They leave vicinity of Vulcan when it is near its farthest point and a few may experience Earth impact as they near the Sun.

Persistent Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud
www.spaceref.com...

www.physorg.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Edit to add;
Youve probably already seen this but I thought id throw it in anyway

www.darkstar1.co.uk...

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Originally posted by xynephadyn
reply to post by rajaten

 

Hey girl, I am totally with you, and I am sick to DEATH of all the freaking trollers around here who just get off on blasting posts due to their own ignorance.

Xynephadyn.....

So that I can attempt to position myself myself in this discussion.....

I would be very interested to know your definition of a "freaking troller".

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by rajaten
reply to post by Murky

 

Have you considered that the astronomical societies are being controlled or influenced by a NWO or government to prevent panic?

Poisoning the well. Amateur astronomers wouldn't lie about the fact that the planets are right where they're supposed to be; if "Nibiru" were close enough to be causing earthquakes and tsunamis, then the positions of the planets, and especially the minor planets, should be off.

Originally posted by rajaten
reply to post by Skellon

 

lol I wish I had an IR telescope so I could take my own footage of this thing.

I do, but it seems that it doesn't matter since the footage disproved Jcattera, therefore my footage is to be ignored.

That is Venus. Did anyone see how far the camer moved? That is the only thing that bright in the night sky.

I keep an open mind about almost any subject and I'm not dismissing Nibiru 100%.... if its out there I'd like to know. I'm also not a die hard believer, I don't accept every youtube video posted about Nibiru as gospel. Nope I choose to accept the fact that most people on youtube are either misinformed amateur astronomers, a idiot with a camera or someone trying to pull a hoax. I can't count how many youtube videos of various objects in the sky I've been able to identify. Nibiru, UFO's you name it... a lot of people really don't know what is up there and assume something is what its not. I've even informed people how to find out what objects are themselves. Some of them were very thankful I took the time to share some knowledge with them.

But keeping an open mind I checked his (Jcattera's) cords anyway and saw the same thing as ngchunter. It's one thing to disprove youtube videos, and another thing to try to censor, deny knowledge and cover up a story. Just because someone disproves something does not make them a agent or trying to cover up something. They could have an unbiased interest in the subject and be looking for the truth like you. It seems a lot of people here have a problem understanding this. And these same people are too lazy to check things out for themselves. They just call people names because they said something they said they don't agree with.

I search the sky with my 11 inch Celestron CGE pro 1100 when I get the chance and other things don't prevent me too. I like to just slew and explore.. I've been doing this for many years and have invested a lot of money into it. I've not seen any Nibiru, but it does not mean its not there. I seriously doubt the government can censor all the astronomers. If they could then why are all these "REAL Nibiru" videos on youtube? Guess there doing a bad job at the censoring...

If I ever did find something I would post it here and numerous other forums as well as youtube with the filmed location, time and accurate coordinates that could be verified by other people. I am not "suppressing knowledge" as the OP says, I don't get paid for that either. Maybe you should do your own research and show me something I can confirm instead of the same old stuff

I also just love how Nibiru is just all over the place its coming from the south pole, the sun, orions belt, hiding behind another planet, its invisible, etc..! That star gets around eh? Wish it would make up its mind where it wants to come from already. I wonder if it does not show up after 2012 will all this stop? Or will people say Nibiru is taking the long way around our solar system.

Originally posted by rajaten
reply to post by Chadwickus

 

Why are you against me presenting new evidence on this topic? Seems to me you are the one who wants to encourage ignorance with a comment like that.



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Don't listen to the clique!!!

Sumerians didn't leave messages about Nibru or Nibiru for a reason!

JCaterra is one of those cry wolf people I mentioned in one post before it got locked. All these idiots are going to one day just piss people off and ignore them. then one day one astronomer is actually going to find it and people will call him a crazy crackpot. then Nibru will catch us all by surprise except a few elites who knew this would happen.

but hey if it didn't exist then why would these tablets say this?

Enki and the world order: c.1.1.3
"I will admire its green cedars. Let the lands of Meluḫa, Magan and Dilmun look upon me, upon Enki. Let the Dilmun boats be loaded (?) with timber. Let the Magan boats be loaded sky-high. Let the magilum boats of Meluḫa transport gold and silver and bring them to Nibru for Enlil, king of all the lands."

from this site:

www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk...