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reply to post by weedwhacker


Sorry about the delay whacker, i fell asleep,i was refering to the US government, they control all the relevant observatories. By that i mean the ones located in the far southern hemispheres. As far as amateur
astronomers go, unless they are in Antarctica they have no chance of
seeing a brown dwarf below the ecliptic no matter how large it may be.
All this debate while interesting on socialogical level is a waist of time,
you wont have to wait too long now before wormwoods emergence.

I just wanted to thank nghunter for bringing an important device to my attention, the NABG (non anti-blooming gate) CCD. Thanks much.

Not sure if this one has been posted... very interesting though - Virgo anomaly in google sky:

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by lestweforget
reply to post by weedwhacker

 

Sorry about the delay whacker, i fell asleep,i was refering to the US government, they control all the relevant observatories. By that i mean the ones located in the far southern hemispheres.

Oh, dear, oh dear oh dear.....really???


Even THESE ONES???
en.wikipedia.org...:Astronomical_observatories_in_Australia

As far as amateur astronomers go, unless they are in Antarctica they have no chance of seeing a brown dwarf below the ecliptic no matter how large it may be.

Oy, vey....Antarctica, huh. That the only landmass below the equator, huh??

you wont have to wait too long now before wormwoods emergence.

Oh No You Dinnnt! >SNAP

reply to post by ribaldmalarky


This is another nitwit video that has so many idiotic comments in it that it hardly requires discussion. Not sure which dumb comment is the the funniest. Mine is probably the comment about zooming in does not affect the image when the video maker uses software employing a cubic extrapolation method.

reply to post by weedwhacker


Your link to the AUST observatories didnt work, not to worry thats where i reside. Yes the US have access to NZ andAUST observatories as well as
PLATO. By the way why would the US, UK, China and AUST put so many millions of dollars into PLATO ( the unmanned robotic observatory) in Antarctica? Dont watch TV but wouldnt his wood into aworm have worked better?

Originally posted by lestweforget
As far as amateur
astronomers go, unless they are in Antarctica they have no chance of
seeing a brown dwarf below the ecliptic no matter how large it may be.

You don't have to be anywhere near the north pole to see the north star. Think about that for a minute and hopefully you'll understand why any object in the sky even if at the exact south celestial pole could be seen by anyone in the entire southern hemisphere. I can see well below the ecliptic from my location in Florida as well, though obviously the south celestial pole is out of my view. Australian amateurs, of which there are many with very good equipment, would have a perfect view though.

To put it another way, if you were on a hypothetical planet millions of kilometers away and directly over the south pole, and looked at Earth with a telescope, you would see (ignoring day/night & clouds) this:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e3f3d525dd3a.jpg[/atsimg]

As you can see, you would have a direct line-of-sight to half of the globe; including southern Africa, most of South America and all of Australia & New Zealand. Since line-of-sight works both ways, this means that any observer - amateur or professional - in southern Africa, most of South America and all of Australia & New Zealand would have a direct line-of-sight to the hypothetical planet

Do you understand now why "Nibiru" cannot hide?

reply to post by Saint Exupery




Thanks for the nice photo...I think I can finally see the "hole" at the South Pole.

You know? The one that leads to the hollow Earth??

I think we could arrange for "Nibiru" believers to congregate there. We'll figure out a good rate to charge --- tell them they'll be safe from the "evil wormwood".

Is that an entrepreneurial idea, or what?

Originally posted by weedwhacker

Just horrible how some of you people ridicule the guys who are proponents of the Nibiru theory.
You and your "science" and what not.

Of course there is Nibiru. And yes, it is approaching toward the south pole, so thats why we can still not see it.

Maybe the scientists working in Antarctica could have seen it, but hey, not Nibiru's fault that there were some stubborn clouds over the science station there lately.

And if some of the southern people, like say, Chileans have been in the best position to see it (due to southern hemisphere winter) - it is again not Nibirus fault that this opportunity coincided with the World Cup.
All of Chile was watching the World Cup so no one thought of looking for Nibiru. It isnt coming until 2012 anyway, and the World Cup was really important this year. Seeing as it is the LAST World Cup and all ...

Please, do not be so mean to us nibiruans.

Originally posted by skajkingdom

Originally posted by weedwhacker

Just horrible how some of you people ridicule the guys who are proponents of the Nibiru theory.
You and your "science" and what not.

Of course there is Nibiru. And yes, it is approaching toward the south pole, so thats why we can still not see it.

Maybe the scientists working in Antarctica could have seen it, but hey, not Nibiru's fault that there were some stubborn clouds over the science station there lately.

And if some of the southern people, like say, Chileans have been in the best position to see it (due to southern hemisphere winter) - it is again not Nibirus fault that this opportunity coincided with the World Cup.
All of Chile was watching the World Cup so no one thought of looking for Nibiru. It isnt coming until 2012 anyway, and the World Cup was really important this year. Seeing as it is the LAST World Cup and all ...

Please, do not be so mean to us nibiruans.

[snip]. So you managed to involve chemtrails in this little fairytale of yours, how cute. But nevertheless, could you perhaps show me where this magical planet would be now? You seem sooo sure about this planets whereabouts that you certainly must be able to point it out with ease?

And you just simply skipped the point being made in a previous post that amateur astronomers isn't restricted to the US. There are, as pointed out before, quite a few amateur astronomers in Australia for example. How come they can't see it? Is it invisible?

It must be the latter, hell I would even go as far as to call it a ninja, since it has managed to sneak through our solar system without disrupting the other planets orbits even a tiny bit.

ever heard the saying "the invisible and the nonexisting looks pretty much the same"? Wow... Just wow



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reply to post by skajkingdom


You got me giggling with the "You and your "science" and what not" line.

"Let's burn-down the observatory so this never happens again!!!"

Originally posted by skajkingdom
reply to post by rasalhague

 

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I'm sorry for my little outburst, my only excuse is that I've had a discussion regarding this very same subject in another threád and it has really gotten to me. By the way, check it out and you might see what I mean, its the last pages of the New sign of Nibiru page. I swear to god, a woman in there claims to be intuitive and actually know everything about Nib. but she wont tell us because it isn't her decission to take. anyway, sorry that you came in the crossfire, thought you were as serious as her...

There is no factual basis for the many Nibiru stories. This Internet chatter originated from the claim by Nancy Lieder that she was warned about this planet by aliens from the star Zeta Reticuli.

There is no Mayan doomsday prophecy for 2012, they have dates that extend as far out as 4772.

Eris is not Nibiru and it will never come into our inner solar system.

The ancient Sumerians never said Nibiru would destroy the earth.

Carl Sagan once said extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

There has never been a Nibiru video or picture that hasn't been debunked.

If Nibiru is a planet, the the thousands of astronomers would have seen it.

We've found a brown dwarf 11.8 light years away, if Nibiru is a brown dwarf why haven't we found it> btw that brown dwarf is an ultralow twmp brown dwarf so dont use that as an excuse.

The simple fact is no ancient civilization calls for the world to end this year. Nibiru is a hoax. Stichen mistranslated(if he could even translate) ancient sumerian. There is no proof video or otherwise that Nibiru exists. The most reliable source that 2012 will be doomsday is a crazy lady who said Hale-Bopp didn't exist and that doomsday was in 2003. She said the zeta's told her a white lie so as not to cause a govt crackdown when it really happens.

Just in case:

The bible doesn't mention 2012 as doomsday. There is no actual planetary alignment. The sun isn't going to align with the center of the galaxy. If there is a magnetic pole reversal then it isn't going to cause catastrophes. A physical pole shift isn't going to occur.

If you believe 2012 is going to be our doomsday or some sort of planetary awakening or whatever that falls out of the realm of the norm, please provide some proof. Or evidence that hasn't been debunked. Something we can sink our teeth into.

I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens

reply to post by DrJay1975


A great example of the moronic disinformation scheme. Sitchen did not mistranslate anything. Others try to simply say the sumerians were telling a mythic creation story rather than chronicling their history. Provide proof that Sitchen cannot translate ancient Sumerian. To say otherwise is pure bullsh1te.

NASA is forced to confirm the Nemesis hypothesis based on Sedna's orbit:

A recently-discovered dwarf planet, named Sedna, has an extra-long and usual elliptical orbit around the Sun. Sedna is one of the most distant objects yet observed, with an orbit ranging between 76 and 975 AU (where 1 AU is the distance between the Earth and the Sun). Sedna's orbit is estimated to last between 10.5 to 12 thousand years. Sedna's discoverer, Mike Brown of Caltech, noted in a Discover magazine article that Sedna's location doesn't make sense. "Sedna shouldn't be there," said Brown. "There's no way to put Sedna where it is. It never comes close enough to be affected by the Sun, but it never goes far enough away from the Sun to be affected by other stars."

www.space.com...

Now that there is confirmation of a solar binary companion, all these disinfo excrementheads can do is fall back on the old CIA "mockingbird" protocol of ridicule & intimidation, shouting down, etc. Disregard such idiotic tactics.

reply to post by ribaldmalarky


What a bunch of "malarky"!!

Yes...I said it!

NOT the 'space.com" article. Have seen it. It's been talked about already, on ATS other threads, it's not new.

The "Sitchen" junk....he isn't anything but a con artist. THAT malarky.


Anyway, "Sedna"?? The very snippet you posted gives the hints that all your fear-mongering is worthless....fear-mongering about the possibility of "Nemesis".

This is exactly what seems to happen, so often, have seen it so manytimes in ATS, and in the mainstream too...even when people read a VALID science source, they still misunderstand it!

The snippet, the one that hints at why this is NOT a big deal, mentions that Sedna at the closest in its orbit is still ~76 A.U. away. (Well, that's distance from Sun...so ~75 A.U. from Earth).

It does NOT come any closer....AND, even IF there is a significantly large (but hard-to-see very dim) object even farther out....then IT TOO is not going to be coming anywhere near us...nor anywhere near Neptune, Uranus, Saturn or Jupiter either.

ALL of our planets have been in stable orbits for billions of years. There is no way a massive body could "transit" through, or even graze nearby, and NOT have a significant effect, and cause pertubations that would be apparent to us today. Especially IF such a large mass was on a recurring, repeating "stable" orbit...no matter how long the period of orbit, it would have made MANY, MANY "passes" in the last ~4 billion years...and the Solar System as we observe it wouldn't exist in its present form...and, guess what??

We probably wouldn't have ever existed, either!

This is why the "niburu" claims are idiotic!

They rely on the general public's lack of sophistication in things celestial, and prey on those gullibilities.