Anyone watching the BP spill feed- confirm?

Originally posted by belidged
reply to post by butcherguy

 

The cnn live feed is 49 seconds behind the bp live feed.

I don't have anything to do today so I'm going to keep it running in the corner of my screen to monitor for any changes.

So a better question to be asking is why would they buffer the feed? The only reason LIVE feeds are buffered is to censor something before the feed reaches the masses. Whichever feed is the most current is the one to keep an eye on.

IMHO, the feeds are being looped. I also believe that we're going to see (unless the cameras are off when it happens) a very large part of the ocean floor cave in very soon, if it hasn't already.

Have we forgotten what happened to Mt. St. Helens when the side of the mountain collapsed? IF the sea floor collapses, the rate that the oil is coming out now will seem like a gnat is pissing compared to what will come out of the ground from a full collapse.

This is the worst case scenario, but I fear as the days wear on and we continue to lose incredible amounts of oil and gas from that pocket, it is no different than a balloon deflating except that this balloon has trillions of tons of earth sitting on top of it being held up. There is a big difference between filling a balloon with water and resting it on top of something as the water flows out based on the surrounding pressure... but if you were to SQUEEZE that balloon, or drop a rock on it, the water comes pouring out or it pops and the water explodes out. This is no different than what can happen at any moment down there.

The government could squash BP right now for the fact that they are slowly destroying part of this country's economy (which in itself could be categorized as an act of espionage or sabotage), and could shut down all of their operations in the Gulf, but at the same time, they can't because all the Federal Gov't is good at is spending money and war.... they have made a mess of everything that made this country great and have yet to clean up anything they've done, this is no different and the American people should be outraged and rioting on the steps of the Capitol for the unfortunate people in the Gulf states. My heart genuinely goes out to them and all of the innocent wild life destroyed by this. Every gallon of oil pumped out of that hole by BP should be given to the US for FREE, aside from lawsuits or other expenses they've incurred.

Their (TPTB and elite) greed has finally caught up to us folks.

The question isn't around cleaning up this one particular mess while others continue, it is what are we going to do to change it completely and remove the element of greed from our livelihoods, our governments and representatives and the people who continue to allow money to represent morality and common sense???

~Namaste

Originally posted by Morpheas
Why did they close the other thread.. it is in a different forum. Anyway just in case you haven't seen in the other forum.. CNN is going to kill the live feed during the top kill.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I guess BP might be afraid of having anything recorded if something REALLY goes wrong during their next stab at it.

I wish they would just MERGE similar threads instead of closing them and preventing folks from adding new posts. A lot of good comments get lost that way.

Regardless, I honestly do wonder if a major collapse of the ocean floor may occur. Considering how much oil is leaving, and how much 5,000+ feet of water weight pressure is being pushed against it.

There was a mention that the southeast United States could have a major land shift/earthquake if it were to collapse. Oil laden Tsunami perhaps?

reply to post by Mobius1974


Chill out dude. Oil is produced from the tiny spaces between sand grains so there is no vast pool that will cause a collapse of the ocean floor.

Correct me if I'm wrong... but isn't it impossible for the oil deposit to empty out completely and/or collapse -- due to the pressure eventually equalizing to that of the sea above it... and therefore neutralizing each other?

BP to Kill Leak Cam During Seal Event

Shameful! Now why would they do that? They should be FORCED to leave the cam running, I can't believe they can get away with this!

Multi-screen video of the spill, from 12 different cams - note the difference between those and the 1 that's being publicly broadcast!

So they are going to try the "top kill" Wednesday morning, and we'll all just have to trust BP that it all went according to plan? I don't think so Dr. Evil!

It sounds to me like something fishy is going on. The real question would be, what are they doing that's so nefarious that they need to block everyone from seeing it?

My gut still tells me that this thing isn't over, and it's not even close to being the worst it's going to get. Of course, that could be my years in the military talking here. If there's one thing I've learned when it comes to dealing with corporations and government, it's this ... Murphy was an optimist.

April 20th ‘s fatal blast in the Gulf of Mexico happened under a sky that featured Saturn (business as usual) exactly opposed to Uranus (explosions), which is moving into position with Pluto (hidden power) for their long-running square. Ceres, the asteroid of the Earth Mother, conjoined Pluto, the despoiler, in the sign Capricorn (corporations) within a degree.

The fact that this was no ordinary oil spill became clear right away as the disaster moved through several quick meaning changes in the public mind: from that of an accident brought on by the failure of a mechanical device, to that of an example of how government fails to regulate oil companies, to that of an entire system where corporate interests are allowed to commit travesties against Nature.

The rig explosion coincided with the entry of Chiron (wounding) into Pisces (oceans) that very day. Horrified TV viewers saw aerial photographs of the blue sea turning into a conflagration of toxic crude. According to a report cited by Al Gore, the sheer size of the befoulment amounts to an Exxon Valdez every four days. The mind reels. The heart recoils.

The negligence leading up to the accident appears to be so gross that one might expect the company in charge to be out of business in a New York minute … if that company were any other than Halliburton. But that’s whose careless work cementing the oil well is being blamed — by BP America (talk about the pot calling the kettle black) — for the disaster.

The rogues’ gallery on display during this latest phase of the Saturn-square-Pluto period include Big Oil and Dick Cheney’s Halliburton, who stand accused of environmental desecration; and, at the hearings in Washington, the Goldman Sachs boys, who stand accused of gaming the financial crisis for personal gain like weekend gamblers on a tear. Like all archetypal figures, these characters are a reflection of the group mind. They mirror back to us the toxic greed of the capitalist world.

At first the media tried to make hay out of the Deepwater Horizon catastrophe. The infotainment industry is, like our Wall Street gamblers, amoral. Their job is to focus on what viewers enjoy, and box office numbers tell them that the public enjoys fireballs. So the first response of the news programs was to milk the calamity for its sensationalist appeal. But the media bites its tongue when the dirty secrets percolate to the top. Such as the evidence unearthed by astrologer Eric Francis showing that the spill occurred in a marine dump area (Pluto governs dumps and garbage): a body of water whose secreted depths hid unexploded bombs and torpedoes.

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Originally posted by GoldenChild
Multi-screen video of the spill, from 12 different cams - note the difference between those and the 1 that's being publicly broadcast!

Yes.. there are two leaks.. and now they are showing a live feed of the small one instead of the main leak.. what are they hiding that they aren't showing the main leak anymore?

reply to post by bpg131313


In a word:

Ooo Rah!

Muphy - was an optimist.

This is looking real funked up right now... If BP are playing around with their supposed live feeds, this is very bad indeed...

What have they done?

Originally posted by Takamuri
You want to say that the governments response is inadequate, however, what do you suggest they do? They already have sent their best resources to assist in the matter. Kick BP out? The guys who's bread and butter is drilling and pumping these holes?

The government doesn't have any super secret special powers guys. They can't use their telekinesis to make this stop. They are doing what they CAN do.

[edit on 24-5-2010 by Takamuri]

When you retire from the NSA or MI-6 with a GENERAL'S RANK let us know so we can take you seriously.

Its not about BP appologising because its too late for that, its about how they could possibly drill offshore without having any serious contigency plans to deal with such emergencies. Granted its very deep and there is lots of methane gas within the oil reservior making it extremly tough(from a laymen's perspective)to cap it off but it took them 3.5 weeks just to come up with the siphoning plan. How difficult could it be to install heavy steel riser pipes into the hole and siphon the oil up where it is much easier to collect? It probably should have taken them a few days to a week at most if they had to clean up the wreakage area first, but apparently either the american and british governments didn't take the matter seriously enough to pitch in their expertise or they just don't give a damm.

I am not even talking about applying classified technology to the problem, which I am sure they could have applied if they actually cared enough. Seriously, when your faced with an emergency of this type you don't even eat let alone talk about korea, iran, illegal immigration, stock market, etc.

It seems "our leaders" have their priorities ass-backwords...to put it mildly and not get banned!

I'm watching the feed again. The feed IS live or is in one hell of a long loop. Been watching it for 40 minutes now.

Can someone tell me what I'm watching right now? Seems I'm looking at ANOTHER leak?

I just woke up so I am a bit hazy as to the latest.

reply to post by Morpheas


Every time I think about the fact that they aren't showing us the big oil geyser, I immediately put a negative spin on it. My mind tells me that the company is looking for anything positive they can to show the public, and when they have something that is not only bad, but getting worse, they certainly don't want to show the public from a PR perspective.

If the main geyser has grown in size and intensity, would you really expect them to show the world? Our navy has ROV's just like the ones they have, and our navy certainly has the ability to stream live feeds that BP can't interfere with for everyone to see. The only reason I can think of that they wouldn't do this is that it's gone from bad to worse. An ignorant public is a public that isn't hanging BP executives from lamp posts.

If the climate does not go along with your AGW ploy, then release enough methane to make it a reality!



[edit on 25-5-2010 by Donkey_Dean]

Maybe an oil primer is needed. First, when they drill a hole, surface casing is placed to protect fresh water supplies and cemented around the out side. The depth may vary due to the depth of the fresh water. Then they start down with the bit connect to weight pipe and then drill pipe, and drill to the desired depth. After they reach depth, a casing string is ran down to right below the production depth. Then various operations may be performed. The operations may involve perforating and then fracturing the formation with acids or pressure or both if necessary. Oil formation vary greatly from tight limestone, to loose unconsolidated sands, to consolidated clumpy sands. Some clumpy sands require no fracturing as they have plenty of pockets between the formation particulates to allow the oil to flow. What we are dealing with is a consolidated sand formation with tremendous porosity that allow the formation pressure to push the oil to surface.
Now I can not be sure this is the case as I am only familiar with central US land drilling but the method is basically the same.
Another problem that adds to the confusion is the gallons vs barrels of oil. Come on folks this is not that hard to fathom. A barrel is 42 gallon.
Another variation that I see is the depth issue. Please make note that hole depth is usually measured from the surface of the land. We are a mile deep in the gulf to get to the surface. These folks that say why don't we pump cement in the hole, why don't we weld the hole closed,.....etc etc, have no freekin clue what it take to work at this depth and pressure.
Now some other oil fiels trash claim that the well will loose pressure soon. To this I say, you don't know swat. In the Gulf of Aden wells have been flowing (that means coming to surface with a pumping unit) for years.
As far I as can determine, we have little experience at 30,000 to 35,000 feet below surface. And that means add 5000 to get the rigs deck drilling depth.
I wonder if BP really had the OK to drills to these depths?
Now this idea that something below surface has eroded? The only thing to erode is the drilling string (which it wouldn't) and \ or the surface casing.
What are the true downhole pressures. Have we ever dealt with these pressures before? What happened to the BOP? and many more questions...

The feed yesterday definitely looked worse than today. Something isn't right. There obviously hiding something IMO.

I just feel in my guts that we will talk about this event for a long time.
You know, telling stories to your grandson in front of a warm fire in 2050.

"Thats how it begun son"

Is it still mainstream info in the US ? because in france i havent seen anything for a few days...

The plume in the live feed is going crazy right now.