Oddly shaped UFO sighting

reply to post by BlueFireWolf


This topic should be closed and the user banned. This is very obviously a hoax.

The image quality overall looks like it has been edited. I doubt that he even took the picture, but got a stock picture from the internet and added what appears to be a blob of mercury probably using photoshop or a similar program.

The focuses do not correspond, lighting, shadows. Looks very much as if this was computer generated. Not to mention this is a new account. ATS shouldn't tolerate this.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by Svoboda]

[edit on 25-5-2010 by Svoboda]

Originally posted by BlueFireWolf
But I think I understand how these things work now, and it looks like the website wrote it's own info for it....

BlueFireWolf.....

I will be grateful if you could explain that in more detail. (many thanks)

I don't understand what you mean by that.

Please take your time.....no rush!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by BlueFireWolf


The EXIF data I posted from a Samsung M510 does show the image was run through Photoshop, however ALL the "Main Information" and "Sub Information" is still visible.

ALL of your images are missing the "Main Information" and "Sub Information" sections. This means your images were edited...

We want to see the UFO images with all the EXIF data, and ZERO Photoshop tags like my example shows. We don't want to see Photoshop tags. We want to see the original data only.

I KNOW you can plug your camera into your PC and drag an drop the image files onto your desktop and send them to ATS admins. That is all we are asking for.

I didn't hoax this okay? I'm just a normal (if you counr being anti-social as sort of normal) guy who caught a picture of some weird # and is just trying to figure out what it is.

I mean, I understand all the doubt; but I barely know what's going on anymore. All this talk about EXIF data and photoshop is just confusing (I can barely use the program).

And my phone is weird, okay? It's probably different the one Sprint offers in some way cause my is from Solo or something.

And even though I don't understand this EXIF stuff, that example that guy posted can't be from the phone (at least not direct). I mean, it talks about photoshop and even has tags about the website.

I believe they posted an example, not a direct exif sheet from your phone.

I also believe they - and EVERYONE here is STILL asking for you to send the RAW photos from your phone. Many have offered to walk you through the process to get the RAW images to a moderator or another trustworthy member/expert who can help cetify these photos and you can go to the next step of getting confirmation of what you saw.

reply to post by BlueFireWolf


Well if you can't come forward with an original photo why are we supposed to believe you didn't alter or edit this photo in any way? Show all the pictures you took.

You really deserve to be banned for this. I'm surprised this is still open.

reply to post by BlueFireWolf


BlueFireWolf,

Photoshop has a function called "Save For Web" which prepares images so they are web friendly. This option allows the owner to add their website domain name, and other information to the image. This information is stored in the EXIF data. That is why you see "MobileBurn.com" in the EXIF, and also "Photoshop 3" in the image.

All of that could be ignored though, because Photoshop does NOT create "Main Information" and "Sub Information"... so that information is straight from the camera itself, not Photoshop.

We want to see YOUR images with similar Main and Sub information. Forget about the rest.


[edit on 26-5-2010 by ALLis0NE]

reply to post by Svoboda


Have you even read this whole thing? Do you even know what's going on? Doesn't seem like it from you r 5 posts....

reply to post by BlueFireWolf


BlueFireWolf.....

Can you please immediately take another picture with your phone (of anything you like) & e-mail it to me immediately?

And.....don't get fired up.....stay cool!

Many thanks
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 26-5-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

Well I'm going to bed.... I might be back tomorrow after work... maybe not.

Because I'm getting tired of this. I've done everything you guys have asked for.

@Maybe...maybe not: I'll have to wait till I can go back to that internet cafe... (probably tomorrow)

[edit on 26-5-2010 by BlueFireWolf]

[edit on 26-5-2010 by BlueFireWolf]

Originally posted by BlueFireWolf
reply to post by Svoboda

 

Have you even read this whole thing? Do you even know what's going on? Doesn't seem like it from you r 5 posts....

All I know is somebody digitally altered the images you posted here.

I also know ATS moderators want hoaxers banned on spot.

You are refusing to post the original images. The original images contain the binary code which proves that you aren't posting altered images. The lighting is obviously off, and the binary code is supposedly missing.

I've seen real alien probes before, so I know what to look for, I also know what to look for in fakes.

He's saying he's going to bed to avoid the criticism. Everyone who sees this should submit a complaint and get this user banned to keep him from returning.

[edit on 26-5-2010 by Svoboda]

Originally posted by BlueFireWolf
Well I'm going to bed.... I might be back tomorrow after work... maybe not.

Because I'm getting tired of this. I've done everything you guys have asked for.

@Maybe...maybe not: I'll have to wait till I can go back to that internet cafe...

BlueFireWolf.....

Just snap 1 more photo & e-mail it straight from the camera.... you said the last images were sent that way.....or am I wrong?

5 mins max!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by BlueFireWolf


I think you are the only one confused here...

We want to see the RAW images... the images that the phone created. Nothing else.

We want this;

Camera ---> Your computer ---> ATS.

You are doing this;

Camera ---> Your computer ---> Photoshop (any editor) ---> ATS.

We don't want the image to pass through Photoshop, or any editor. We want it straight from the camera.

Do you understand?

ok, so when nothing but the RAW images will do and nothing else will be accepted you decide to 'maybe not' return?

Why not just give the RAW images? Why not accept the help that the members have so graciously offered in walking you through the necassary process to get the RAW images here?

I know if I had seen a UFO going into a wormhole I would be driving to the newspapr or another media outlet - or at least getting the requested info to the people who you asked to help you.

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


I used the computers' bluetooth to get them off the phone.

@everyone: Fine, I'll be back... and I might as well re-do the original photos when I go back to the cafe

[edit on 26-5-2010 by BlueFireWolf]

Will you agree to get help from one of the members who has offered to walk you, step-by-step, through the procedure to get the RAW images off your phone and into the hands of someone who can properly evaluate them?

[edit on 26-5-2010 by esteay812]

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by zaiger

 

Zaiger.....

You're getting very good at that!

Thanks, i have been working on it and to be honest im kind of offended by this thread and the photo in the OP. I can do it way better than him and he didn't even ask my help with hoaxing this one. I can do dox too lol
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by esteay812


Well anyways, I'm going to bed... I'll get the photo(s) tomorrow.

Here is my 2 cents on the image being authentic:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7dc8d75a4537.jpg[/atsimg]

Now what I have done to the image:

Downloaded the OP on first page of thread in photoshop increased image to 1000X780 pixels and cropped. Then I increased the contrast to get the resultsd above.

To many pixel issues and blending techniques together to be a normal image.

Sorry it looks way to fake for me to accept!

reply to post by zaiger


Dang man, your work is going to make me question everything now. That doc was classic.

Bluefirewolf. I sent you a U2U. Can you please respond whenever you get a chance