Is it possible we could collectively SUE BP?

reply to post by dgtempe


Your friends a criminal???!? Sorry DG, but this has happened before.. sadly many times.. and this incident, as horrible as it is, isn't even the biggest or the worst. Actually, this isn't even the first time a rig has sunk in the gulf.

reply to post by Rockpuck


I dont want free money, im not struggling at all. The point is they should be held accountable to the world for destroying part of it. The company should be sued by everyone at least a billion people suing at once haha that would surely do something.

The damage is unreal, i was just watching the news they say 160,000 barrels have spewed out since it started.

I bet it's ALOT more then that.

Call Alan Shore. He's somewhere around Boston I think...

Double post.

[edit on 24-5-2010 by Occy Anonymous]

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


Again why sue them? If they are forced, to pay fines and for any cleanup, there is no need. If they are paying for the cleanup, they should also be paying for any repairs to the environment that can be made as well. Meaning they would pay for any sheltering and nurturing of animals and plants. They would have to pay for any “restocking” fees of wildlife that has been affected by they own fault.

Suing them is foolish unless you are directly affected. Removing any other cash to go into your pocket would reduce cash that could go toward repairing their disaster. I would rather them pay for every bit of that before I see someone who is not directly affected receive any cash settlement from them. To say otherwise is asking for free and easy cash.

I do not need a dime of theirs; I do not buy their products. I do though want every penny that is needed to go to fixing and repairing the problems they caused. No one that is not directly affected needs any of their dirty money anyway.


Raist

Originally posted by Raist

Again why sue them? If they are forced, to pay fines and for any cleanup, there is no need.

Why you sue them is because the fines they pay, and the cleanup charges they incur can be manipulated. One thing being questioned right now is whether or not BP is deliberately trying to conceal just how much oil is flowing into the gulf because any fines they pay are determined by the size of the spill. They are also big enough that they have political influence, and the fines they are assessed may not reflect the true cost of this spill because of their political lobbying. There are lots of ways that BP could weasel out of having to pay the real cost of this cleanup.

Originally posted by Raist
Suing them is foolish unless you are directly affected. Removing any other cash to go into your pocket would reduce cash that could go toward repairing their disaster.

I would say, as a citizen of the planet, you are directly affected. When we damage the interconnected web that is the ecosystem, if has an impact on our future both individually and as a species. I know that many people think that because you dont SEE or TOUCH the environmental damage that you are not affected. But thats not true. Life on Earth is interdependent. The damage we cause to one species or one ecosystem impacts all of us, and our descendants.

In more selfish ways, prices for seafood are going to go up. There are going to be a lot of impacts that this spill has that will reverberate through the economy and the ecosystem.

Secondly, a "global class action suit" would not have to put money in any individuals pocket. In fact it would be foolish to divide up any settlement among all the people in the class. An individual would end up with pennies, if that. If it could be won, that money could go into a trust to be used for any future costs related to this disaster that could not be foreseen at the time BP was fined.

Originally posted by Raist
I do not need a dime of theirs;

Suing a company to punish them is not about getting money for nothing, or "free" money. Thats corporate propaganda. Suing a company has everything to do with the way corporations are set up, and what they are as legal entities. They cant be jailed. They arent human, they dont have feelings or consciences. Their behavior is driven by one thing, and one thing only. Profit. If an action makes them more money, they do more of it. If an action makes them lose money they do less of it.


If you really feel sorry for all those animals, and the environment, and all those people who are losing their livelihoods because of this spill, you want this spill to cost BP a lot. And you want to set a precedent that will make other oil companies willing to spend whatever it takes to avoid being in BP's shoes in the future. Influencing other companies to make sure this doesnt happen to them is every bit or more important than punishing BP.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


Then if anyone is to sue, it should be the peoples of the areas directly affected. It should be the towns and cities that are affected that should sue. It should be the conservation departments and other organizations who will be doing the rehabilitating, restocking, and the majority of the clean up that should sue.

Regardless of their fines they should pay, they should then be forced to pay fines to the states just as they will the federal government.

It might affect me in the way of prices and even a vacation (if I could afford one) but I do not see the point in my suing them. If those I listed sue them for all the costs for now and future endeavors we will not need to have “the world” sue them. The cost will be the same regardless.

See if those involved and immediately affected do the suing, things will be taken care of. Those truly involved in the cleanup, restocking, and rehabilitation will understand the costs that are in the present and the possible costs of the future. The problem will be having those who are corrupt and in those situations. If the world sues them, less will happen and things will remain screwed until the end of time.

Your ideas might be even riding side by side with mine. But the facts are that when the majority of the “people” see the lets sue them thing they are out for themselves and their own greed. They could care less about the environment as long as they can get the coolest phone, game box, or whatever gadget is the newest market scheme. Yes, BP should pay for every cost this will ever take to fix. However, doing the world suing them thing will not work. It might bankrupt the company but what good is that if the environment is trashed for life. It is better to lose one battle if you can win the war. Winning the battle of bankrupting them and losing the battle of the environment is pointless and yes, it is greedy.

As I said, I want them to be forced to cover all costs to fix the problem. If they manage to stay in business good for them, maybe they will learn a lesson. If not they will have to do it all over again. If they fail and nothing is fixed what have we really won?

Raist

Suing BP

They would just raise there prices by a couple cents a gallon and we would be paying for the lawsuit.

I don't know about a law suit. But a $1500 gas card for people that live in the areas that are affected by the spill would be nice.

Sucks waking up and going outside just to smell the fresh Southeasterly winds as they blow in from the Gulf Of Mexico and bring in the Pungant smell of oil and decaying marine life.