Is it possible we could collectively SUE BP?

I was just reading more and more about this monumental cock-up by BP, I thought is it possible to sue this company maybe on behalf of the world?? or something like that? Any Lawyers here that would have any idea?

I mean through there gross negligence and failure to do anything or provide accurate information about the disaster they have ruined an entire gulf for generations to come.

Soooo would it not be possible to somehow hold them accountable for the damage they have caused, and experiences that they have robbed from our futures? I mean im from New Zealand and i travel frequently. But now after all this ill never be able to experience the gulf like it was ever again. I'm also a keen scuba-diver and who knows what life will become extinct after this tragedy finally winds down...

I do realise this is a tad premature as the disaster is still unfolding and we will not know the true devistation for a long time to come, I mean if we could rise up and maybe try sue the hell outta this company while it's still crippled form the disaster anyway, it could be possible to bring it down our maybe even get it fully publically owned or something crazy like that...

Anyway what would be the legalities of doin something like that, is it even remotely possible??

World vs BP 2010?

Who hears that case? God? Maybe if we can find intelligent life the independent, unbiased alien race could hear it.

The ruling judge cant also be the plaintiff, right?

It is not effective to try to take BP to court.

You can't sue any entity in a court which they own and are there to protect them. The entire corporate government, USA inc., has mobilized to protect, cover up, exploit for corporate profits and to protect it's principals and varied assets from liability.

You can't "fix" a broken system using any of it's broken parts.

The "system" is doing exactly what it's designed to do: exploit and profit for it's owners. If the people benefit from what anything the Government corporation does it's either by design for increased future profits or by accident.

If the environment is destroyed it's the simply the cost of doing business. The environment and natural resources are assets to be exploited by the corporation.

[edit on 23-5-2010 by Emptiness Dancing]

Why sue?

Really is that all people think about is getting money for nothing? I would rather any problems be fixed than receive any monetary “reward” for someone’s mistakes. In the end despite the carelessness and greed involved, it needs to be fixed.

Really why should “we” sue? What difference would that make?

Raist

Originally posted by Emptiness Dancing
It is not effective to try to take BP to court.

You can't sue any entity in a court which they own and are there to protect them. The entire corporate government, USA inc., has mobilized to protect, cover up, exploit for corporate profits and to protect it's principals and varied assets from liability.

You can't "fix" a broken system using any of it's broken parts.

The "system" is doing exactly what it's designed to do: exploit and profit for it's owners. If the people benefit from what anything the Government corporation does it's either by design for increased future profits or by accident.

If the environment is destroyed it's the simply the cost of doing business. The environment and natural resources are assets to be exploited by the corporation.

[edit on 23-5-2010 by Emptiness Dancing]

I hear what you are saying.. but in your statements , you hve hidden solutions .. tell more friend.

peace

reply to post by Raist


Yea i'm hearin ya, but i dont mean i want money for that, im more leaning toward tryin to bankrupt them. i wouldnt care if it ment i had too burn the money just aslong as they dont get it themselves.

And yea i now there's no way coz money makes the court system go round, right?

reply to post by Skinon


Yes I belive BP should be held accountable. By "the law" if you or I had done this, we would be, BUT - BP is a corporation and above the law.

Read my location. And as much as many people probably NOW think my location is "radical" wait and watch, you will see I am right.

[edit on 23-5-2010 by ofhumandescent]

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Ha, yea i read your location. Why would anyone be surprised about that? (trick question) It pretty much is already like that i thought?

And yea if i left a oil spill like that i would probably be shot. Maybe thats what they should do, is execute the people responsible. Like they do in China, American government seems to want their people in servetude and censorship like the chinese, maybe this is a good place to start?

reply to post by Skinon


They are already being forced to pay for the clean up plus restitution for lost business or destroyed property.

So unless your a shrimper or a fisher and lost business due to the oil spill ... no .. you cannot sue.

reply to post by Skinon


We should sue the federal government for doing nothing to protect our shores.

Why not go ahead and collectively sue Gm for building all those oil leaking chevies.

I bet that cars leaking oil on interstates in which washes of in rain water pollutes more water and wild life in a year than this gulf spill could in 10.

Boycott B.P park your car...lol

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Yea but they have ruined a ecosystem of public property of which will not be the same again.... Thus they have robbed me of my chance of experiencing it how it was because of there negligence... or something in lawyerey words etc etc, i know its impossible but it would still be cool if we could.

Originally posted by Skinon
Is it possible we could collectively SUE BP?

And we wonder why our insurance rates are so high.
Frivalous lawsuits!

Yes, it is possible. As concerned ciizens of the World, we can sue them.

And it would NOT be frivulous.

Don't buy their gas anymore...quit going to BP gas stations.

Today as I drove through town, I was pretty amazed to see a BP gas station full of cars at the pumps...even though there were 4 other gas stations within one block, all of which had the same price on their gasoline.

Originally posted by Raist
Why sue?

Really is that all people think about is getting money for nothing?

Raist, the idea that suing corporations for damages is just "people trying to get money for nothing" is corporate propaganda you have memorized, likely without really realizing what it is and where it comes from.

After all, corporations sue people too, all the time, but we dont hear any propaganda about how corporations are just suing people frivolously and trying to get something for nothing, do we? Maybe its because corporations own the media. Hmm? You think?

What other recourse do you have against a corporation that is behaving irresponsibly besides suing for putative damages? What other means do you think we should employ to get them to change their ways? Should we appeal to their emotions and sense of fair play? Corporations dont have emotions and a sense of fair play. They arent human.

And because they arent human, they cant be thrown in jail as a punishment for their bad and antisocial behavior. We really have no other means for punishing them except via the one channel of communication corporations understand, profit. If we make it unprofitable for them to behave in certain ways, they will stop. Which is the logic behind suing them.

And BP has a long history of putting profit ahead of behaving responsibly.

money.cnn.com...

How could BP, a company that has made being green a core part of its identity, even rebranding itself as "Beyond Petroleum," suffer within one year both the worst oil spill in the history of the North Slope and the worst U.S. refinery accident in more than a decade?

And how did CEO John Browne, the energy visionary who publicly broke with his industry to acknowledge a possible link between emissions and global warming, earning a prominent spot in Vanity Fair's recent green issue, become a scapegoat for Big Oil?

reply to post by Rockpuck


I will research it, but if our oceans are gone because of them, i do believe we have a case here.
I will give my lawyer friend a call- he's criminal and he knows environmental law also.

Of course, we havent had a previous case like this so there is nothing to refer to, but those things can be worked out.

[edit on 23-5-2010 by dgtempe]

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Yea you know what im on about! And DGtempe, that would be awesome, i reckon hit them where it hurts, especially because it was something that could have been avoided had the proper saftey precortions been into play...

reply to post by Skinon


Then states effective would be able to sue.. like LA .. or perhaps even individual Parishes

But not you... sorry.. no free money. Find another way to get easy cash. I mean, if we could sue for every slight against what we perceive as should be perfect well ... I'd sue McDonald's for making our women fat, and logging companies for cutting down the trees and ruining my view of the mountains, or Walmart for being a convergence of ugly people ..

they should be sued..for not having the required or right equipment for such a disaster, as with what happened to exxon in 1989 in alaska. they assured everyone the were prepaired incase of a spill...they wernt.
we could never afford sueing BP..exxon sonet over $25 million in legal fees in court and all. but hey..IF i can be arrested or ticketed for throwing a plastic bottle on the sidewalk or street, or urinating on it...BP should be at least get that too...and its effin cude oil thats destroying an entire ecosystem!

they should be sued..for not having the required or right equipment for such a disaster, as with what happened to exxon in 1989 in alaska. they assured everyone the were prepaired incase of a spill...they wernt.
we could never afford sueing BP..exxon sonet over $25 million in legal fees in court and all. but hey..IF i can be arrested or ticketed for throwing a plastic bottle on the sidewalk or street, or urinating on it...BP should be at least get that too...and its effin cude oil thats destroying an entire ecosystem!