The Hybrid Program

i had a thought about the hybrid program.if the grey race is so advanced why would they need to use us to procreate?i know they have no reproductive organs but if they have the genetic expertise to make their DNA compatible with ours,then surely they could create a race to breed into without us.also why do they think that we will share their fate?is it some common trait in all sentient living things?anybody got any thoughts on this?

Originally posted by AlphaOfTheOmega
then surely they could create a race to breed into without us.

I've heard a few theories about this. The main one is that the grey's are actually humans evolved to a degenerated state of weakness, therefore they need our DNA to bring them back to the level they were at before. Also humans are amazingly tough and resilent creatures. They could do a lot worse than humans for mixing their DNA. Also, why would they waste time creating something else, when there's a whole planet teeming with us, ripe for the picking.

Another theory is that they are slowly trying to integrate themselves into our planet, one person at a time. Creating a planet full of hybrids, basically cattle for an extraterrestrial farmer.

Those are just some common theories. I'm not a big believer in hybrids.

And perhaps evolutionary speaking they have reached an apex.. For a very long time they have been virtually unchanged after reaching this point of evolution stagnancy. There for they require the introduction of new genes to reinvigorate their pool. The question is, how much to they want from us.

And of course that if they do egsist.

I think they are so much evolved that they lack emotion.
By combining human and alien they could create a 'masterrace'
that have mental powers and with a touch of 'humanity'

I think this is all nothing more than wishful thinking, overactive imagination & outright lying on the parts of people who state this kind of junk as fact.

There's no proof of any Hybrid Program. There's no proof of Extraterrestrials let alone whether they have genitals. This is the kind of junk that makes the UFO community look like a bunch of tin foil helmeted lunatics.

quote: Originally posted by AlphaOfTheOmega

from what I've heard and read, the greys and others are humans in the future, who through using such advanced technology which is based on nuclear, microwave, radiological, electromagnetic power, their reproductive organs turned dysfunctional long ago and thus they had to procreate through cloning. When things are continually made from a copy the genetic structure gets weaker and weaker, thus the race needs to procreate through the original and 'pure' source, of humans. Also, I'm not sure how but apparently these Greys, and maybe other races have lost their emotions and spiritual side and do not have God on their side, whereas humans do have these things, and the greys want them and are trying to figure out how they can get these things into their race and genetic structure. That's my interpretation and understanding of these rumoured ET races.

[edit on 8-6-2004 by sugeshotcha]

very interesting ,especially the bit about the technology being the cause of it.and you do have a point there isnt any point making a race if they have us here.and youre right about us being a good species to breed with,we do have an inquisitive nature most animals do not possess.

i just realised something however,that draws a tiny bit from something i mentioned in one of my other threads.ETs have (supposedly) warned abductees to spread the word that "nuclear technology brings only misery."at first id interpreted this to mean nuclear weapons,but what if they are telling us that maybe something we will do/create will cause a radiation saturation of the world not great enough to kill us but enough to make us all sterile as they are.this could be why they say we will suffer the same fate.one thing is,however the radiation would need to be present for a few centuries or more to produce that kind of genetic adaptation.one thing can be surmised though: whatever caused it for them wasnt a nuclear weapon/war.if it was the sterility of the race would have killed them off by now,as in the event of a war any cloning technology would be lost/destroyed and would need to be rebuilt extensively before cloning of an entire race could begin.

and sinobyte you prove my hypothesis that every post in this forum will always have a sceptic.there is significant proof for the hybrid program.i have quite a lot of it in a book i have at home and i will see if i can find any links to it on the internet.short example: characteristic hybrid birth has the infant taken away at 6 months of age,yes?well in mexico (at least i think it was ill go look it up) a human skeleton was found clutching a deformed skeletal hand sticking out of the ground.the buried body was found to be small,as if it was a 6 month year old child.the bones were horribly deformed and the skull was rather different from and human one.it was taken to an expert in the field (i cant remember the scientific name lol,but ill look it up as i try to get a link) and he said it was exactly as he imagined a grey skull to be.it is theorised that the woman who had given birth to the child realised that the "Pickup" date was near and entered into a suicide pact,killing the child them killing herself.incidently the human skull had a contusion in it that could have caused the emotional turmoil required to do something like that.

oh and i just realised another thing lol.these stories of humand mating with humanoids/nordics?well there are theories that they are a subservient race established by the greys.now lets assume this is true.when a nordic/humanoid is impregnated,the fetus could be removed and taken by the greys to be nurtured and developed.the greys could have implanted their own master traits in the humanoids but made them appear more attractive to the human race making it easier to cross breed between the two races.

The sick thing about the nuclear/microwave technologies... They kinda parallel to our coming wireless society. I certainly wouldn�t want to live in a city bathe in microwave energy from some 5 or so million cell phones and other devices. Hell, look how long it took to prove that cigarettes cause cancer.

Originally posted by Sinobyte
I think this is all nothing more than wishful thinking, overactive imagination & outright lying on the parts of people who state this kind of junk as fact.

There's no proof of any Hybrid Program. There's no proof of Extraterrestrials let alone whether they have genitals. This is the kind of junk that makes the UFO community look like a bunch of tin foil helmeted lunatics.

I see you on every topic in this forum and every post is either attacking someone personally as a dimwit, fool, or etc. In this case, shooting down someone�s theory without stating your ideas into the matter.

Could you interject your beliefs in this matter or establish some constructive rebuttal or have the Grey's given you an extra X chromosome?

you have a good point there.it took years for people to realise smoking causes cancer but cigarettes are still sold.why?because governments make from them.so if wireless technology proves to be profitable,even if it is proved to cause brain damage/tumas it will still be sold.and i wouldn't like to live in that kind of a city either.maybe some device the greys created attacks your body on a genetic level,causing devolution/degredation of the species and they didnt find out till it was too late or until people became too dependent on it.

and 1998OX4 is right,Sinobyte,you have been on a lot of threads in this forum and debunked people without even giving any reasons/information to support it.if you want to be taken seriously,try being more open minded.

Apparently the grey's bone structure is brittle so one good punch could finish it off, but imagine..... a master race of greys able to breed as quickly as us with the same bone structure mixed with their own powerful intelligence. If there was a war against this new master race between us and them we would be destroyed very quickly for this master race could read our minds and counter our tactics. They maybe able to turn us against each other with their ablitys. If there is truely a hybrid program I pray to God that there isn't a war between us and them.

Good question, If they are creating hybrids, I was always under the impression that they always thought they were the superior race. So why use an inferior race to combine with and make a hybrid. Although im not sure what you mean by us sharing the same fate with them, but these are the many questions the government possibly knows the answer to.

I heard that the grays are an "Underdog" or so to another Alien race

Maby they are creating hybirds for genetic reasons (If they are cloning and getting weaker) and for their own resistance agenst other hostile species

We would also certanly do the same if it was us who were the guys that needed cloning ect

Originally posted by Crash
I heard that the grays are an "Underdog" or so to another Alien race

Maby they are creating hybirds for genetic reasons (If they are cloning and getting weaker) and for their own resistance agenst other hostile species

We would also certanly do the same if it was us who were the guys that needed cloning ect

That makes sense, send a drone to do the dirty work and be the bad cop. It's safe and effective. So if something were to happen, the true being behind the episodes wouldn't be compromised.

Maybe they are trying to figure out how our body reacts to certain biological elements, or better yet, figuring how to augment their immune systems. Maybe they are suceptable to biohazards on Earth. How can you colonize a toxic planet...adapt. War of the Worlds stuff.

So many plausible theories. But for a species able to travel at such distances, it's hard to believe they haven't figured it out by now...or have they.

[edit on 8-6-2004 by 1998OX4]

Originally posted by AlphaOfTheOmega
sinobyte you prove my hypothesis that every post in this forum will always have a sceptic.

And you prove my hypothesis that every post in this forum will always have at least 1 or 2 "open minded" posters making wild claims and drawing outrageous conclusions in a desperate attempt to connect their otherwise unfulfilled lives with the paranormal and unexplained.

Originally posted by AlphaOfTheOmega
there is significant proof for the hybrid program.i have quite a lot of it in a book i have at home and i will see if i can find any links to it on the internet.

If there was significant proof of an alien hybrid program you've done a horrible job of being educated in it. Information in a book is not proof...at this point it could be somebodies wild theory or science fiction. You've provided nothing worthwhile to back this silliness.

Originally posted by AlphaOfTheOmega
short example: characteristic hybrid birth has the infant taken away at 6 months of age,yes?well in mexico (at least i think it was ill go look it up) a human skeleton was found clutching a deformed skeletal hand sticking out of the ground.the buried body was found to be small,as if it was a 6 month year old child.the bones were horribly deformed and the skull was rather different from and human one.it was taken to an expert in the field (i cant remember the scientific name lol,but ill look it up as i try to get a link) and he said it was exactly as he imagined a grey skull to be.it is theorised that the woman who had given birth to the child realised that the "Pickup" date was near and entered into a suicide pact,killing the child them killing herself.incidently the human skull had a contusion in it that could have caused the emotional turmoil required to do something like that.

First of all...you're referring to the skull currently labeled "The Starchild" and as of yet there's no proof that it is of alien origin. One thing that is certain is that the mother has been identified as human. Which means...it's human until proven otherwise. All of that silly "background story" about the pickup date and blah blah blah was all just conjecture for the sake of hyping the skull and soliciting donations from the UFO community. None of it can be proven and anybody who insists that story can be proven is a fool willing to believe anything.

From what we know the skull was found in a cave in the arms of a female skeleton but even that cannot truly be verified.

Originally posted by 1998OX4
I see you on every topic in this forum and every post is either attacking someone personally as a dimwit, fool, or etc. In this case, shooting down someone�s theory without stating your ideas into the matter.

Could you interject your beliefs in this matter or establish some constructive rebuttal or have the Grey's given you an extra X chromosome?

I'm sure it looked good as you typed it but I'm not on "every" topic in this forum. Just the ones I choose to voice my opinion about...which is what I do. I always make it known that my opinion may be that so and so is a nut but I'm sure to qualify it as an opinion. I state my ideas in quite a few intelligent posts.

If my first post didn't "interject" enough of what I believe on this topic then you might want to head on up and re-read. It's fairly obvious what I believe regarding this topic. As for a constructive rebuttal...to what? What would I offer a rebuttal to? There's no proof, facts or solid statements of research in this post...what could I possibly debate when there's nothing to back this topics theory as it is. It's simply stated as fact. As long as it's stated as fact without providing any real information then I'll continue to give brief, abrasive replies. Does that send your day into disarray? Would you like to show everybody how "open minded" you are and provide proof so an intelligent debate can take place or do you plan to whine about my replies from here on in?


[edit on 6/9/2004 by Sinobyte]

Sinobyte, well, apparently you just did give some good debate against the evidence prevented. Instead of calling people names like you did in your first post, why don't you just make all your posts in such threads in a similar fashion. Does it ruin anybody's day, yes, it ruins mine and I'm sure other people's for the simple fact that you indirectly call them names because of their beliefs and give no reason whatsoever for why you do such a thing. Stop being such a dick and tell them why this doesn't work, and the reason you are such a skeptic. Once again, you're just being a vehement, pompous dick...

I never called anybody names in my first post. I said...

Originally posted by Sinobyte
This is the kind of junk that makes the UFO community look like a bunch of tin foil helmeted lunatics

...nowhere in my post did I make any personal attacks. You'll notice I used the word "community" which I'm a part of...in other words, I included myself in that comment. This all simply boils down to people not liking my opinions on wild theories being presented as fact with no proof. If my posts ruin your day then you should probably log off because you might have serious coping issues. Once again I never called anybody a name in this post unlike you flaming me with 8th grade insults. Calling me names while preaching against calling people names makes you nothing more than a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Jamuhn
Stop being such a dick...you're just being a vehement, pompous dick...

Congrats on that. You're paving the way with your example lol.


[edit on 6/9/2004 by Sinobyte]

they do that trying to reach a "individual mind",they have a hive mentalty. that is because they "fuse" with us.!...simple as that.

I think this is all nothing more than wishful thinking, overactive imagination & outright lying on the parts of people who state this kind of junk as fact.

I think you will also know that I said the word 'indirect' as well. If you cared to pay enough attention, you would see that I am considered about the fact that you spout out your opinion without any reasoning behind your opinion. I really couldn't care what your stance is, I would rather read a post that gave a reason for it though.
Does it ruin my day? Of course not, I'm exaggerating, but I'm sure you knew that.
Am I a hypocrit for what I said? Of course I am, but I did it knowingly and for a reason.
I am not anywhere near what I called you (whatever your UNJUSTIFIED OPINION may be ), vehement, yes towards the way you present your posts. Pompous, no, I am speaking for the people on the boards which does include myself. But in no means am I taking my seemingly unjustified opinion to be the law of the land as is what my impression of you is.
I could tear into your comments some more, but I really don't care anymore, I couldn't have said anything at all and my point would still be there that you need to justify your opinions. If you don't want to...fine, but you can count on me saying something again if I see it.
Hope to hear from you soon!!!

[edit on 9-6-2004 by Jamuhn]

Originally posted by sebastiaan
I think they are so much evolved that they lack emotion.
By combining human and alien they could create a 'masterrace'
that have mental powers and with a touch of 'humanity'

haha thats a nice thought...but humanity to "them" would be like hairy nuckles from apes to us.....lol