Whats up with the sun? Not where it should be

Speaking of God:
Daniel 2:21And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

22He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.

Speaking of the Anti-Christ
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Maybe a sign?

Dude, I'm an avid gardner, hobby astronomer, pretty close to nature...the Sun is where it needs to be. Get a good farmer's almanac...it will give you the position of the sunrise and sunset, the times, the moon phases and postions. Look it up...

What you are seeing is an illusion. Most days we pick up or drop, depending on the season, a couple of minutes of daylight. Doesn't sound like a lot until you realize after a 30 day month, the difference is 30-45 minutes.

This time of year, however, the tilt of the earth is changing a litlle bit more drastic, and so minutes of daylight added and the shifting of the sun in the sky is a little more drastic also.

Oddly enough, I plant by the signs and the moon... and like the native americans, I have markers...made from timbers, located at significant points in the yard telling me if I am late planting certain crops by astonomical deadlines.

The Sun is fine and where it needs to be.

Originally posted by 12.21.12

Our calendar is based on 365.25 days and the mayan was based on 360.

The mayan calender isnt based on 360, its a series of 3 or more intertwined calenders, of which the long term calender ends on 21 december 2012. It does have a 260 day calender called the Tzolin but its always combined in with another calender that runs for 365 days.

The Maya calendar is a system of calendars and almanacs used in the Maya civilization of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, and in some modern Maya communities in highland Guatemala and Oaxaca, Mexico.

The most important of these calendars is the one with a period of 260 days. This 260-day calendar was prevalent across all Mesoamerican societies, and is of great antiquity (almost certainly the oldest of the calendars). It is still used in some regions of Oaxaca, and by the Maya communities of the Guatemalan highlands. The Maya version is commonly known to scholars as the Tzolkin, or Tzolk'in in the revised orthography of the Academia de las Lenguas Mayas de Guatemala.[2] The Tzolk'in is combined with a 365-day calendar (known as the Haab, or Haab' ), to form a synchronized cycle lasting for 52 Haabs, called the Calendar Round. Smaller cycles of 13 days (the trecena) and 20 days (the veintena) were important components of the Tzolk'in and Haab' cycles, respectively.

Its a complex and confusing system, which is no wonder why most conspiracy theorists think the date is significant. If only people knew how to read it, then the whole thing wouldnt be blown up like it is these days.

I had just noticed yesterday that a large bush I have by the back door an azalia has been in the shade from the house and then the tree for all the years it has been there so it never has bloomed...and wow I just noticed the sun shinning on it and it is in bloom! I watched and the sun was still on it every time i looked out there.

I am honestly amazed at these sorts of threads. Do you honestly think that the earth's tilt could change drastically enough without creating global environmental havoc? Do you really believe that the sun, at the center of the solar system, could suddenly migrate millions of miles out of its position, enough to make a difference in its position in the sky without affecting the entire solar system? Do you really believe that every astronomer, professional and amateur, would keep such events secret if they had truly occured?

Just like the thread about New Zealand and Australia changing positions, what people are seeing here is a failure of their long-term memory.

Unfortunally I am not busy working. I've been disabled for years. And I have lived here 14 years and there's something not right here. Heck even the birds are singing two - three hours earlier then they have in the past 14 years. And birds would know more about these things then
humans...as they adjust right away to changes. Humans fight against them for the most part.

OK here's alittle about myself to let you people out there know I have been taking care to watch for the Earth Changes cause I knew they were coming since 1983. When earthquake in Indonesia 12-26-2004 things changed. And they change again after the 1-12-2010 Haiti quake and the biggest change happened after the recent Chili quake that moved what 10-12 feet of earth from Chili in what ? another direction.

Do you really believe the the worlds governments are going to allow amateur or experts to share with the world that the earth is tilting. Not if they can debunk them. This is why I bring it up here on this Site/Forum.

At least people can say well...I will keep my eye on it myself and see if I notice anything that might change with the next earthquake....and oh there will be a next earthquake. For God and Mother Nature are on a roll.

Now alittle about my personal life to help people understand that I have had plenty of time to watch the world go by. That's why I know there much more to it then the 3rd Dimension. And I have been able to watch our government slowly strip our Constitution and our foundations for years (and yes I did plenty against them with protest/fast /prayed...it only slowed them down. But that's a story for another day.

I have been disable for many years due to several causes...a birth defect called Spina Bifa Occults...means I was born with a hole in my spinal cord. It was not that big so I did not die like the ones who are born with a larger one And mine is Occulta so it's hidden...no strange opening on my back.

Some people may or may not have problems due to that but I did.

When I was learning how to walk I kept falling. The doctors put me in those special shoe to up the hips leg braces on me but my mother said I kept falling anyway so she threw them away.

To make matters worst I found out years later that I was born with a extra disc fused together with another one just above the spina bifa occulta.

Now I learn how to deal with and I worked too hard at times lifting stuff (I was very strong for a woman)I shouldn't had but I didn't know the extent of the situation till years later since I was casted from one home to the next until I got fed up with the Social services/foster homes and left 8 days after i turned 16 years old.

And I didn't know this before I had my uterus taken out at a early age of 26. And when they did I was never the same. Guess I needed it for more then to have children. It may had been what was helping to hold up my spine better. At least that's my theory since no doctor is going to admit to it.

Truth, Love and True Light, Maya




reply to post by OzWeatherman

I thought i was the only one who noticed this. I have here pretty much all my life. This morning the sun was in the east and now it is all the way over on the west side of the sky.
Do you think the NWO is moving it to prepare us for disclosure?

I know things aren't suppose to change fast. I know it takes 100's of years to move a few star constellations to somewhere else. That is why this concerns me. I wish I knew more about this computer..I am sure there is a way to do graphics but AI lucky to know this new laptops basics. So I will try.

A survivalist taught how you can use you size of the hand and he was a male and I have smaller hands.. to mearsure the degrees of the suns direction/ movement. And one hand thumb close to the side is 5 degress.

But even so I measured by my 12x65 trailer too. For 14 years the sun whether in the summer winter fall or spring, the sun has always rose up over the far left side of (not on) trailer. The sun always comes through that bedroom window no matter what time of year its been the 14 years I been here, And this trailer was placed here 14 years ago.

Since th Chile quake I notice some different...the sun was not setting where it usally set for this time of year (and I watched sunsets here even painted a few.)

The sun now comes over at 11 Am to 12PM halfway across my trailer now.
whether thats 5 hands or 25 degrees it at least 6 feet to the right over then where has ever been before since I lived here. So now its more to the north direction then the usual south.

And the sun at high noon straight up the time here EST says its 3:00 PM

And the birds are sing 2-3 hours earlir then for the past 14 years.

So tell me..does this still sound normal to you?

Truth, Love and True Light,








reply to post by TarzanBeta

Well, I think I'll ignore every logical reality oriented, skeptical or practical thinker on here for a moment, and just share a little of what I know about the sun, based on connections to my Higher Self, and experiences, and sungazing. Something I highly recommend one does and takes notes on even, because things do change if you're paying attention.

Following through on my threads in my signature about the sun as the laser that erects the Hologram in a Holographic Universe, which I believe and was shown this is, the projector basically, and a kind of white hole/black hole technology, much like the big central star everyone calls the black hole in the galactic center. I think its a huge central star/projector.

The sun also reflects our collective consciousness, but its individual too, our individual consciousness. Two babies born the same day, will not see the sun the same. Some see it much larger. Note, its not god, nor an angel, more of a phone line and a projector.

When you sun gaze, and quietly meditate, you can look within your heart, and ask questions about the Universe, who you are, why you're here, etc. Send love, and gratitude, thank the energy, your Higher Self, Family of Light, etc. Blink into the sun for a short second or two, and close your eyes and let the chakra like rods and colors code you, you may feel vibrations in your body or third eye after a while. I prefer to go out when its just perfectly filtered by leaves, of the trees, or morning/late afternoon.

It give you energy too, and its taken away my headaches after a short while. In any case, you may notice a few things aside the feeling of presence, but you may notice, the sun flares up and grows bigger and very warm. It did this for me all last winter, mind you we had a mild winter here, but it was very warm and I was doing it with a teenage in January/February. That the sun grows very warm and large for you alot and others dont see it. That it brightens up your room when you think positively and are conscious and aware and thank the Energy, Family of Light. Keep a journal.

reply to post by watchtowermaya

But even so I measured by my 12x65 trailer too. For 14 years the sun whether in the summer winter fall or spring, the sun has always rose up over the far left side of (not on) trailer. The sun always comes through that bedroom window no matter what time of year its been the 14 years I been here, And this trailer was placed here 14 years ago.

No. Just no.

The Sun does not rise in the same location no matter what the season. In the summer it rises more to the north, in the winter more to the south.



[edit on 5/20/2010 by Phage]

Correction . I was thinking half of 12 was 6 for 6 feet. Its actually half of 65 feet as that's how long the trailer is. So make that about 33 feet to the right/north the sun has been coming up and it's never come over that of the part trailer.

Truth, Love and True Light





reply to post by TarzanBeta

reply to post by watchtowermaya


Oh, for Pete's sake, here:

www.sunrisesunset.com...

Now, get a really accurate clock...heck, if you have cellphone reception that should be good enough, at least you know it's accurate, at least within one minute...and use the darn tables, from the above link!

Get the location correct (or else times will be off).

Do your own actual research, with some degree of scientific accuracy...not the "hand's width" guesstimate!

Yeah I know. I watch it come up in the winters more in the south west and in the summers to the north west.

I am saying that in 14 years living here after the Chili quake main big change.. the sun comes over half way over my trailer now instead of staying off to the far left..southwest. The sun stays off that side of the trailer all year round. Not anymore.

OK even so disregarding everyhing about degrees. It's high noon the sun straight up in the sky and the time here 3 PM. Got some explanation for that?

Truth, Lovve and True Light







reply to post by Phage

reply to post by Shark VA84


Amen Shark.

OP, you seem to have forgot many things concerning your observations. Like trees grow, and given the conditions, even lean several inches in one year. It's happened to our apple tree. As was pointed out before, your furniture is probably not in the exact space, and unless you have taken pictures and or measurements documenting exact location, your view and memory are just off.
You do not remember what you do not notice. Few people take the time to track the sun's progress through the sky. It is happening the same times, the same space, in the same way it has for eons.

[edit on 20-5-2010 by stars15k]

Originally posted by watchtowermaya

Yeah I know. I watch it come up in the winters more in the south west and in the summers to the north west.

I am saying that in 14 years living here after the Chili quake main big change.. the sun comes over half way over my trailer now instead of staying off to the far left..southwest. The sun stays off that side of the trailer all year round. Not anymore.

OK even so disregarding everyhing about degrees. It's high noon the sun straight up in the sky and the time here 3 PM. Got some explanation for that?

Truth, Lovve and True Light


reply to post by Phage

 

But you said it didn't matter what time of year. You said the Sun always comes in your window.

I have an explanation. You have a lousy sense of direction. The Sun is never
straight up in the sky in North Carolina, at noon or any other time of day.

The north Star was the biggest brightest star out here.

All I ever had to do to see it was go out my front door and look up and toward the north. It as not been there since the 12-26-2004 earthquake
inIndonesia with that great tsunmai.

Truth, Love and Light






reply to post by weedwhacker

reply to post by watchtowermaya

No.
The north star (Polaris) has never been the brightest star in the sky. In fact, it's pretty dim.


[edit on 5/20/2010 by Phage]

Hey guys... do a simple experiment we did in the 7th Grade.

Find a level area...a sidewalk or a platform would be best. Then take a glass bowl or some sort of half globe that reflects sunlight. Set the bowl down on the flat area and draw a circle around it's base... wide open bowl side down.

Mark the lip of the bowl and mark the circle around the lip/base of bowl...so you can line it up each time you collect your data and get an accurate reading.

Then note the reflection of the sun on the bowl and mark it with a permanant marker.

NOTE: You have to do this everyday at the same time.

After doing this for a couple of weeks, you will see a line/string of dots on the bowl where each day the sun has moved a little bit further. After six monthys of doing this, you can easily see a bell curve on the globe/bowl as the sun moved up each day...and after the solstice or equinox...it started moving back.

There are a series of experiments/exercises you can do to demonstrate the tilting and consistency of the Sun in relationship to the Earth.

Are you smarter than a 7th Grader?

Then you haven't heard? The awesome Power and Will of God has prophecied these things would happen in the Last Days. In The Book Of Enoch (a book they took out long ago thought was lost til recently found. They were so scared of it they tried to destroy it. But if God wants something to last well..)

The Book Of Enoch. He wrote what God showed him (Enoch walked with Enoch 300 years) and told him to write all the information about the way things worked on earth. How things like the sun moon stays their coarse. How beneath the seas the doors hold back the loew rivers.

Thei Book Of Enoch was written for the generation that lives in the final Last Days of the Great Tribulation. And here's a section of it that pretains to the sun and moon and stars in these Last Days.
I am just going to put one up before the main one so you get the idea of where Enoch- God-the Archangel is in the conversation.

The Book Of Enoch: 79

And now my son I have shown thee everything, and the law of all the stars of the heaven is completed. and he showed me all the laws for every day, and for every season of bearing rule and it's going forth, and for the order prescribed to it every 3 month and every week: and the waning of the moon which takes place in the 6th portal: for in this 6th portal her light is accomplished and after that there is the begining of the waning; (and the waning) which takes place in the first portal in according to weeks in it's season till one hundred and seventy-seven 5 days are accomplised; reckoned according to weeks, twenty- five (weeks) and two days. She falls behind the sun and the order of stars exactly five days in the course of one period, and when this place which thou seeth has traversed. Such is the picture and sketch of every luminary which Uriel the Archangle, who is their leader showed unto me.

Book Of Enoch: 80

And in those days the Angel Uriel answered and said to me: 'Behold, I have shown thee everything, Enoch, and I have revealed to thee that thou
shouldst see this sun and this moon and the leaders of the stars of the heavens and all those and those who turn them, their task and times and departures. and in the days of the sinners the years shall be shorten. And thier seed shall be tardy in their lands and fields. And all these things on the earth shall alter. And shall not appear in their time; And the rain shall be kept back. And the heaven shall withhold it. And the fruits of the earth shall be backward. and shall not grow in their time. And the fruits of the trees shall withhold their time.

And the moon shall alter her order, and not appear at her time. And in those days the sun shall be seen and he shall journey in the evening on the extremity of the great chariot in the west. And shall shine more brightly than accords with the order of light. And many chiefs of the stars shall transgress the order prescribed. And these shall alter their orbits and task. And not appear at the season prescribed to them. And the whole order of the stars shall be concealed from the sinners. And the thought of those on the earth shall err concerning them. And they shall be altered from all their ways. Yea, they shall err and take them to be gods. And evil shall be multiplied upon them. And punishment shall come upon them so as to destroy all.

Got Jesus?

Truth, Love and True Light














reply to post by bagari

I choose to rely upon subjective experience when discussing this thread. One of my many photographic hobbies is pursuing photos of the green flash, and I choose to do this around sunset, rather than sunrise.

Of late, I've also been taking several photos of the sun higher in the sky, as a demonstration of no second sun for some of the Nibiru-like threads.

My view is that the sun is exactly where it should be: In April - end of May, for many years, I don't have to take my tripod and camera any further than a few feet out my front door. At this time of year, I can shoot right over the roof of the building across the street, see a thin line of horizon and frame the sunset between the same palm trees that I do every year around this time. Later on, I will have to move across the street, and then everything moves back slowly.

I begin this sequence usually Early February, when I can shoot sunsets from this same general area, and the sunset appears just off the point of the bay to the west of me.

Everything is cool, except I haven't captured any particularly exceptional green flashes yet this year. Same thing happened in 2005, and I only kept on of the photo files out of the more than 10,000 shots I took in pursuit of this optical phenomenon.

Well, it wouldn't be so exciting to capture a good one if it was easy. Sun is fine. Worry not.