Why all the Islamaphobia in the UK?

Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
Maybe folks in the UK are worried when they see things like this


www.snopes.com...

Baa-aaah

It is a horse and pony show , that is all there is to it , really .

Muslims are not allowed to be anything other then British Citizens .

Those protestors are obviously idiotic religious zealots - not to be taken seriously .

Most muslims abide the law , like any other citizens .

Originally posted by 23432

Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
Maybe folks in the UK are worried when they see things like this


www.snopes.com...

Baa-aaah

It is a horse and pony show , that is all there is to it , really .

Muslims are not allowed to be anything other then British Citizens .

Those protestors are obviously idiotic religious zealots - not to be taken seriously .

Most muslims abide the law , like any other citizens .

And you sir are a paid troll. Paid to come here and disrupt the threads with meaningless diatribes.

Sad, but true.

Ignore button coming up methinks.

Just as a taster of how racism has changed in Britain please watch this...



I think that video speaks volumes, Especially towards the End where Darcus Howe is talking to the muslim guys on the street... this is TYPICAL agressive behaviour that you get from young male muslims here in the UK, I have experienced that kind of attitude and intimidation time and time again where I live, incidently the video I have posted was shot in Walsall in the West Midlands, which is about 5miles down the road from me.

Racism is now on the other foot, to say that racism is a mostly a product of white people is nothing more than a narrowminded view!
I have experience this first hand, being discriminated against for being white and being in MY own country!

Originally posted by teapot

Originally posted by 23432
If Islam was as bad as you all make it sound , it would not have taken root in the hearts of 1.5 billion of earth .

It has taken root in the hearts of 1.5 billion powerless people who see it as a way to gain ascendency over other groups.

If you really believe what you've stated ; I am afraid the truth is far away from your perception .

powerless muslims yet they seeks ascendency ?

an oxymoron on the go ?

Do you mean to say that , they want everyone else to be as powerless as themselves ?

Originally posted by dampnickers


And you sir are a paid troll. Paid to come here and disrupt the threads with meaningless diatribes.

Sad, but true.

Ignore button coming up methinks.

I am a british white muslim .



Thank you for your humour but I am no troll.

Ignoring my views are OK .

But , wouldn't it be a bit ignorant to do so ?
If I may ask , good sir ?









[edit on 11-5-2010 by 23432]

Wise words from Pat Condell...





Hmmmmm kinda blasts the stereotype that every who is concerned about such matters are some kind of knuckle dragging simpleton.

[edit on 11-5-2010 by Resentedhalo08]

reply to post by Saf85


Just as the OP says

ALL Brits are Lazy
ALL Brits are on welfare
ALL Brits vote for the BNP
ALL Brits are Racist
ALL Brits Are facist
ALL Brits are xenophobic

You really shouldn't judge the Muslim communitys just by their right wing factions because no one would ever EVER do that to the British.

im a white american thats very conservative and i say we get rid of the politicians, and elect leaders, so we wont be treaded on!

Originally posted by 23432

I am a british white muslim .

Thank you for your humour but I am no troll.

Ignoring my views are OK .

But , wouldn't it be a bit ignorant to do so ?
If I may ask , good sir ?


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Ignoring views are not okay in my opinion. However, I cannot abide the fact that you seem to blindly defend Islam despite the facts staring you in the face.

Sadly, ignorance really is bliss.

All the best to you.

Here are some quotes from the Qu'ran from the "peacefull" religion that is islam...

"The Prophet said: 'Whoever cheerfully accepts Allah as his Lord, Islam as his Religion and Muhammad as his Apostle is necessarily entitled to enter Paradise.' Abu wondered at it and said: 'Messenger of Allah, repeat that for me.' He did that and said: 'There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth.' Abu said: 'What is that act?' He replied: 'Jihad in the Way of Allah! Jihad in Allah's Cause!'"

"On the day the Qurayza Jews were slain, one Muslim was martyred. A stone was thrown on him and it inflicted a shattering wound. The Apostle said, 'He will have the reward of two martyrs.'"

"And thou wilt find them [the Jews] the greediest of mankind...."

"Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment."

"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends."

“Whoever seeks other than Islam as his religion, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he will be with the losers” “Slay the idolators [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the last Day…. Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah!"

"Mohammed said, 'I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah'.



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[edit on 11-5-2010 by Resentedhalo08]

reply to post by dampnickers


Thanks for the fmotl info! Very useful site.

Large numbers of diverse individuals exercising their individual claim to personal freedom from systems and authorities that seek to enslave the individual, could cause overload of said systems.

Peaceful and lawful protest, individuals acting in consensus with other individuals united only in common cause, far more powerful than class action!

Originally posted by 23432
Do you mean to say that , they want everyone else to be as powerless as themselves?

No, I mean they (Islam) seek ascendency. World domination.

[edit on 12/5/2010 by teapot]

reply to post by 23432




[edit on 12-5-2010 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]

Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
Maybe folks in the UK are worried when they see things like this


www.snopes.com...

And to show the other side of the story. www.timesonline.co.uk... Moderates are the vast majority, but as usual the extremists get more airtime because your average muslim family just isn't "exciting" enough for regular mainstream news appearances.

I live in England and have spent lots of time in muslim countries. I haven't experienced much hate towards muslims in the UK (no more than every other minority group).

Maybe you should go to a country to judge rather than basing your opinion on tabloid stories.

Originally posted by dampnickers


Ignoring views are not okay in my opinion. However, I cannot abide the fact that you seem to blindly defend Islam despite the facts staring you in the face.

Sadly, ignorance really is bliss.

All the best to you.

My views are of a moderate strain . Usually , I do get my point a cross and I think moderate views are easy to defend .

Defending Islam blindly ?

On the contrary , I would bash Islam's various implementations around the world , more then anyone would ever know , yet I am still a muslim .

Ignorance really is a bliss , that , I agree with it .


Muslims are not going to take over UK , that , I also would like to give it you .

% 5 of the population is non native in this land .

For the life of me , how is it even possible to entertain the idea that this % 5 people will overcome the other % 95 ?

It's not cricket , is it now ?

Peace be upon you .

Originally posted by teapot

Originally posted by 23432
Do you mean to say that , they want everyone else to be as powerless as themselves?

No, I mean they (Islam) seek ascendency. World domination.

[edit on 12/5/2010 by teapot]

I see what you mean now .

As a muslim , it is indeed my obligation to pass the ' message ' to you too .

For some reason , I do not think you are in a mood to recieve any message .

Peace be upon you too .

Originally posted by Resentedhalo08
Here are some quotes from the Qu'ran from the "peacefull" religion that is islam...

"The Prophet said: 'Whoever cheerfully accepts Allah as his Lord, Islam as his Religion and Muhammad as his Apostle is necessarily entitled to enter Paradise.' Abu wondered at it and said: 'Messenger of Allah, repeat that for me.' He did that and said: 'There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth.' Abu said: 'What is that act?' He replied: 'Jihad in the Way of Allah! Jihad in Allah's Cause!'"


Jihad indeed but I am afraid you are not really clued in on the meaning of Jihad and are only thinking in terms of violence and war .
Jihad is more then war and violence .


"On the day the Qurayza Jews were slain, one Muslim was martyred. A stone was thrown on him and it inflicted a shattering wound. The Apostle said, 'He will have the reward of two martyrs.'"

There was a war and one side lost and the other won . Nothing new here , is there ?


"And thou wilt find them [the Jews] the greediest of mankind...."

white shoeshine boys , the Khazars , my cousins .

I do have Jewish family members , I am one of those unusual muslims who happened to have Christian and Jewish relatives .

When I am talking to them , it never comes to my mind that they are a Jewish or Christian faith .

It jsut doesn't matter , family is a family .

But in all honesty , aren't the Jews shrewd with their money ?

"Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment."

Yes infidel , you gonna burn and burn good in hell .

Come to Islam before it is too late .


"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends."

I have friends from both faiths . You are reading too much into it .



“Whoever seeks other than Islam as his religion, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he will be with the losers” “Slay the idolators [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the last Day…. Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah!"

Nothing shocking here .


"Mohammed said, 'I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah'.

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That is right . None has the right to be worshipped but the Creator of All .

Fight , does not necessarly mean violence or war . One can have a pillow fight too .

It all depends on the other side .

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by Saf85

 

First off... it's your own fault for wanting to bring your own state into another state.

Secondly... it's you who want your seperate ways and division...

I'm not even white and even i see the cause of the problem is the religion itself.

THANK YOU! Other minorities and ethnicities that feel disturbed by the fundamentalistic presence of Islam need to speak up too, that's the only chance to invalidate the race card.. or else they'll be screaming racists forever.

Funny, most the replies are as expected, far right and taking my words out of context etc.

I never implied all white people are ignorant or racist etc, I am asking why there are so many who are.

Also as for people googling about anti islam propeganda, then quoting it in a way as to make the muslims look like hate spewing people. If you bother to include the paragraphs before and after your controversial statements you post, then people would see how much an islamaphobe you really are.

For instance the section about the skin being burned and replaced and burned again, it is quoted in a way to make it look like the muslims condone burning the skin of there fellow humans. This is not true, it is a description of the terrors that await you in hell, just as those stories you are told in sunday school to make you read your prayers every night etc.

Also all these stories about muslim children acting violently etc, sorry but how many generations have the muslim community had to put up with worse from people such as the NF? Now the shoe is on the other foot due to the children of the muslims deciding they will not stand for this peacefully as their parents did. Answer me, if the muslims were such hate filled infidel slayers, why did they put up with the NF and other facist groups when they first come to this country? If they were as evil as being made out by the media, they would have invoked Jihad the very next day lol. Also, just because someone is of an asian decent, does not make them muslim also, how many Indian children have committed crime, only for someone to go blame it on the muslims, why because some asian kid done it, so he must be muslim of course... Heck I have seen a chinese man being called (forgive my French) a Paki just for having brown skin!

Also why is the media just focused on muslim related violence and crime? as said above, the minorities in this country are 5%, in that 5% how many crimes can they realistically commit compared to the 95% white majority? Where are all the hate crimes from white people in this thread? What about the taxi driver who was stabbed to death in Birmingham last year, his crime? Being in the wrong part of town. Where are all the stories of the countless families terrorised by yob gangs just for being muslim? Funny how you can take a few bad apples and try to twist it as the whole barrel is rotten.

My thread was not started as a way to paint all white people with the same brush, but to highlight the hate towards muslims, not only from the far right in this country, but also the common man/woman, all becuase the constant attention from the media and the ignorance etc.

Rather than jump on the hate mongering bandwagon like most people tend to do on here, how about thinking for yourself? Once again, those hating the muslims for the actions of the government and councils, how is it anyones fault they are offered a house over a native person? If you went to a foreign country to work, would you not accept a house being offered to you? Or would you be all noble and rubbish and refuse it claiming the natives have more right? Did not think so!